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Re: Vision Clearing with Ortho-K and a Plus Lens.

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Re: Vision Clearing with Ortho-K and a Plus Lens.

Dan Abel27 Jan 2007 19:44
> thats great!.  now you suggest orthoK, which physically pushes on the
> cornea and manipulates it's curvature for a brief time but goes away
> when you stop using it.  and you also continue to recommend +3.00
> readers despite the fact that they have been repeatedly shown to be
> totally ineffective.

For most myopes.  My wife is +1.0 for distance and an add of +2.0.  +3.0
for readers would be just right.  But she wears progressives.

> >      He was about -2 diopters and 20/140.  After several months

p.clarkii@gmail.com27 Jan 2007 11:44
thats great!.  now you suggest orthoK, which physically pushes on the
cornea and manipulates it's curvature for a brief time but goes away
when you stop using it.  and you also continue to recommend +3.00
readers despite the fact that they have been repeatedly shown to be
totally ineffective.

why don't you add a recommendation for using a special vitamin mixture
that only you sell, along with meditation tapes and bible-reading?  
you're almost ready for advertising on Paul Harvey's radio show.

by the way, whatever happened to the State of Pennsylvania's
investigation of you for practicing medicine without a license?  
obviously it hasn't curtailed you moronic posts on this newsgroup.

otis you are a zealot and an idiot.  you must think people here really
care about your phony ideas.  do you like trying to mislead people?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Jan 24, 4:20 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
>      Dear Second-opinion friends,
>
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>
> Yves

otisbrown@pa.net24 Jan 2007 21:20
Dear Second-opinion friends,

    Yves (name changed) contacted me about the plus.

    He was about -2 diopters and 20/140.  After several months
of using the plus he saw no progress and he suggested Ortho-K.

    So he did Ortho-K and is planning to combine BOTH Ortho-K AND
the use of a +3 diopter lens for all computer and reading work.

    As always, keep an open mind about scientific prevention
of a negative refractive STATE for the fundamental eye.
(Ref:  the Wildsoet blue-tint dynamic eye concept.)

    Here is his commentary for your interest.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Dear Yves,

    Subject:  Question About Ortho-K and Plus Prevention

    I think your reports are great.

    The effect of strong Ortho-K is to make your refractive STATE
POSITIVE.

    Or, you could read the Snellen through a plus 1 diopter lens.

    I personally think is will take some time to "anchor" your
20/20 vision with heavy use of the plus 3 diopter lens.

    So 20/20 is indeed wonderful.  But be patient.  I think it is
going to take about 3 months before you "hold" 20/20 with no
Ortho-K.  (As an engineer and pilot I am always "cautious" -- as
you understand.)

    But you are the "leader" so just do what you think is
necessary, and report to your fellow pilots on your efforts.

    We are all (including me) learning from YOU.

    More commentary:

====================

Yves wrote:

Yves> Today when driving back home from work it was unbelievable.
     I have never been able to see so good at night before,
     everything was as sharp as during the day if not sharper.  I
     came home and looked at my snellen and i could see the 20/15
     line with both eyes.  In the morning it was 20/20.  All day
     at work I wore the +3 lens in front of the computer...

Otis> You are doing it RIGHT!!

Yves> The interesting thing i noticed with the plus 3 is that if i
     look at the screen and then take off the glasses and try to
     focus my eyes on the monitor, i really feel how hard my eyes
     are trying to see the screen in front of me.  This really
     must stress the eye muscles a lot.

Otis> I agree with you.  We should be TAUGHT to use the plus as
     soon as our refractive STATE moves from a positive value
     (20/20) to slightly minus.  This is my major objection to
     Dr.  Catman Grants incredible arrogance and associated
     ignorance.  But that is the majority-opinion for you.

Yves> I think i realize now why my vision has gotten so bad with
     prolonged computer use.  I can't believe OD's prescribe
     minus glasses and let people wear them in front of the
     computer...  that's just plain horrible.

Otis> I always appreciate HONESTY.  I TRUSTED a man like Catman
     Grant.  I AM RESPONSIBLE for my bad habits -- but he as a
     PROFESSIONAL responsibility to DESCRIBE the preventive
     second-opinion.  And then send us to "myopiafree" to do our
     own research on the issues.  I WOULD GLADLY PAY HIM FOR HIS
     PROFESSIONAL TIME!!!

Yves> My plan is to wear the ortho-k for about one or two more
     weeks now, then i'll try to skip a day and see if I can keep
     my eyes sharp.

Otis> Excellent idea.  But be prepared for a "slip-back" towards
     20/50.  This will take about three months.  So "steel"
     yourself to that expectation.

Yves> Will keep you posted.

> P.S.    If you are tired of your glasses and contacts, give
     Ortho-k a try, the feeling of not needing anything during
     the day and just seeing through your eyes is amazing, I
     can't believe how much i have been missing.  The routine is
     simple:  brush your teeth, put ortho-k lenses in, sleep,
     wake up, get lenses out, brush teeth, go...

Yves

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