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Re: routine urinalysis

Shylirin22 Aug 2005 07:23
> No not for me.  I working on a profile for basic practice protocols on
> visual dipsticks vs instrument reads and needed to go back to the
> basics.

Just wanted to point out that instrument reads provide more precise results
over continuous dipstick reads.  Human eyes and brains can interpret one
wavelength as two slightly different colors, and this introduces bias into
the test, thus making an instrument better with regards to consistent
results for patient care.  Also, instead of having the tech need to watch
the strips develop, you can put the strip on the instrument and walk away
for the time it takes to run.
However, having and maintaining an analyzer has its own expenses that may
become a factor depending on your budget.  I have a Clinitek 500, and after
the initial purchase, my only routine analyzer-only related expenses are
thermal paper, electricity, soap & water (to clean with).  These are very
small expenses for me, and the same size thermal paper is used by two
different analyzers and I can get a volume discount, thus further reducing
costs.

Does urinalysis during routine patient physicals have the
> potential to reduce health care costs by cheaply screening for and
> identifying diseases not preseting.
>
> Like in the case of bladder cancers or urinary tract infections.

I have to agree that this is somewhat dependent on how the physicians follow
up on abnormal results.  In other words, will they panic over anything and
order a full workup, or will they use common sense and look for a rational
explanation from the patient or the history.  Horses before zebras and all
that.  However, if the physicians use their heads while evaluating the
results, it also has the potential to provide a real cost savings with
regards to those smaller percentages of patients who have a new onset
disease that is caught before the patient is in dire straits.  My lab
routinely performs screening urinalysis for physicals, and more recently as
a state health requirement for pediatric patients on state funded
healthcare.  We've caught numerous UTI's in the early stages before symptoms
were evident, thus reducing the number of office visits and associated
expenses.  Out of 21 physicians in our facility, I've only had one that
wants to overwork an abnormal UA, and after a visit with one of our
Pathologists, he seems to have eased up quite a bit.  Seems to have been an
education issue.  :)

Shylirin

Mediresearch16 Aug 2005 20:44
No not for me.  I working on a profile for basic practice protocols on
visual dipsticks vs instrument reads and needed to go back to the
basics.  Does urinalysis during routine patient physicals have the
potential to reduce health care costs by cheaply screening for and
identifying diseases not preseting.

Like in the case of bladder cancers or urinary tract infections.

JEDilworth16 Aug 2005 20:26
Yes, there is a large screening benefit.

A urine dipstick can pick up glucose, protein, an increase in WBC's,
blood for starters. I assume by "urinalysis" you mean a "routine
urinalysis" and not drug screening or any other testing. If you mean the
latter, that's a whole different discussion.

A urine microscopic can pick up casts (not normal), WBC's, RBC's, yeast,
trichomonas, bacteria, and lots of urinary tract abnormalities.

Glucose in the urine can be indicative of diabetes; protein, LOTS of
things; WBC's, infection, blood, LOTS of things. It is an inexpensive
way to screen for many problems, some of which can be serious.

I take it you don't want a urinalysis done on yourself? Routine
urinalysis doesn't have anything to do with drug screening.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology

> Is there a screening benefit to conducting urinalyis at every physical?

Mediresearch16 Aug 2005 20:08
Is there a screening benefit to conducting urinalyis at every physical?

Robert16 Aug 2005 19:52
> Could someone steer me in the right direction for recent debate on the
> clinical value of routine urinalysis?

Can you be more specific? There is no debate that a urinalysis is useful.
What context are you referring to?

Mediresearch16 Aug 2005 19:29
Could someone steer me in the right direction for recent debate on the
clinical value of routine urinalysis?

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