Re: Too much government in healthcare professions
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Re: Too much government in healthcare professions
| nickzelinski@hotmail.com | 17 Aug 2005 08:33 |
> I am the head of our lab's CE committee. We recently instituted a > requirement that every tech have 12 hours of CE a year. This keeps us in [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > field. I also don't think it's too much to ask to do some of this stuff > off the clock. It's a small "price" to pay to stay knowledgeable. When continuing education is done during your working hours. And the employer provides much of the education. Then of course there is nothing to complain about.
But you have to realize that not everyone is in such a lucky situation as you are. There are many technologists who work in small labs and in rural areas, where the employer does not provide any continuing education.
Some technologists travel to foreign countries and work there for a while. And they too have a problem, when they come back.
And there are many states in USA and provinces in Canada where the government has created licensing organizations that do require official continuing educaton in order to have any right to work (or 'priviledge' as they say).
Perhaps not everyone values their freedom to the same extent. And perhaps for you lack of professional freedom is a small price to pay. But that's not how it is for me.
My employer does not provide any continuing education. It's all up to me. And this means that I know better than some far away bureaucrat what I need to know for my work. And this is why I'd like to have the freedom to choose what I learn and how I learn it.
All these licensing organizations including ASCP should give people the option to continue their education completely on their own. And they should give these people the option of writing some competence exam to renew their professional certification.
Such an arrangement would be a small price to pay. And it would give many people the professional freedom they need.
Is this too much to ask for?
Since when did freedom for the individual become unimportant?
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| JEDilworth | 16 Aug 2005 20:21 |
I am the head of our lab's CE committee. We recently instituted a requirement that every tech have 12 hours of CE a year. This keeps us in line with the new ASCP requirement of newly graduated techs that are required to have 12 hours yearly in order to keep their registry in good standing. These hours are not required by any governmental entity; they are required by my employer.
Our lab allows many options to fulfill this 12 hour requirement. Reading articles, attending conferences, online CE, in-house lectures, membership in a committee all count towards the 12 hours.
I personally don't think this is too much to ask to keep current in the field. I also don't think it's too much to ask to do some of this stuff off the clock. It's a small "price" to pay to stay knowledgeable.
Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP) Microbiology
<nickzelinski@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> My point is that there is more than one way to > keep competent in your work and profession. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > tested my knowledge and when they haven't checked > the quality of my work. |
| nickzelinski@hotmail.com | 16 Aug 2005 16:19 |
> So, what exactly is your profession? What are you being asked to do by > the government? Has your state of residence recently become a licensure [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP) > Microbiology I work in the laboratory and I have a degree. And I have no problem with my education or qualifications, except for the continuing education.
My point is that there is more than one way to keep competent in your work and profession. And professionals like myself should have the freedom to do it in their own way. The government has no business telling me that I need to upgrade my competence, when they haven't tested my knowledge and when they haven't checked the quality of my work.
This is government interference in my life for no good reason. And I resent it.
But I agree with you that changing professions is costly and difficult. And you really have to be dissatisfied in order to do it.
Apparently, you are satisfied with your work and profession. And I wish you all the best. Perhaps your employer and your local government treats healthcare workers with more respect than it does in my area. Not every place is the same.
But I think I'm right in saying that in general, many health professionals including laboratory workers often leave their profession well before their retirement age. And dissatisfaction with their profession is often the main reason why they leave.
Who exactly I am and where exactly I work is not important. I am still working in my profession. And I don't feel free to speak out openly against government regulators who have the power to make some trouble for me.
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| JEDilworth | 16 Aug 2005 15:39 |
So, what exactly is your profession? What are you being asked to do by the government? Has your state of residence recently become a licensure state and you don't have the qualifications to complete licensure requirements?
It sounds as if your profession is requiring a college degree or equivalent, and you don't have one. It also sounds as if you are dissatisfied with your employer. You seem fixated on government causing all of your problems instead of possible lack of initiative on your own part. It's easy to blame the "gumment" for lots of things.
I have a great employer and have no complaints. No profession is perfect. For me to start over now would require a big investment in school and probably a pay cut. I would expect it would be the same for you.
Why don't you lay the cards on the table in your posting, instead of writing a "black helicopter anti-government rant" and perhaps you will get some empathy? What's REALLY going on here?
Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP) Microbiology
> I happen to be one of those other health > professionals. And I too will probably leave my [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > like the unreasonable government interference in my > work and in my life. |
| nickzelinski@hotmail.com | 16 Aug 2005 13:52 |
It's a well known fact that nurses are leaving their profession in droves. And they are leaving it in such numbers that the new nurses coming out of shools are not enough to replace them.
Job dissatisfaction is perhaps higher in nursing than in other health professions. But other health professions also have a problem with people leaving well before their retirement age.
I happen to be one of those other health professionals. And I too will probably leave my profession soon.
It's not only poor working conditions and lack of control over my work that upsets me. I also don't like the unreasonable government interference in my work and in my life.
Local governments in most places have recently created many new rules and regulations that govern health professionals. And now I find myself in a ridiculous situation where my many years of work-experience and continuing self-education count for nothing. According to these new government regulations, I'm now actually less qualified to do my work than the new graduates who have no work-experience.
I suppose this is what happens when some bureaucrats in a far away place take it on themselves to judge who is competent to do his or her work and who is not.
I have more than kept up with the advances my profession through continuing self-education. Whenever I come accross something I'm not familiar with in my work, then I go on the internet and find out about it in much greater detail than is really necessary for me to do my work. And what I learn this way actually stays in my head. The information has real meaning for me because it is relevant to my everyday work.
But the new government rules and regulations completely ignore this kind of learning. And they penalize people like me.
According to my local government, I'm now not qualified to do my work because I've not taken enough formal courses and I've not memorized a bunch of facts most of which have little to do with my everyday work.
I can accept that the government and employers have an interest in making sure that health professionals are competent in their work. And would have no problem, if periodically I had to write an exam to assess my knowledge. And if I fail the exam, then I can accept that I need to take a course or two to upgrade my knowledge.
But I do have a problem when the government tells me that I'm not qualified to do my work, despite the fact that my supervisors praise me for my competence and the good quality of my work and I have not failed any exams.
I've recently looked up the internet site of the organization created by my local government for regulating and registering people in my profession. And what I've read there really turned me off.
This internet site reminds the reader that their organization has been created by government legislation to regulate workers like me. They have the authority to do it. And what's more, practicing in my profession is a "priveledge", not a right.
In other words, 'Workers like me have to do as they say, or else'.
Well, I don't need this kind of bulshit from the government. There are many other professions where the pay and the working conditions are better. And there are many other professions where employers recognize and value the competence and the years of work experience of their employees.
I don't need some far away government bureaucrat whom I've never met telling me that I'm not competent, when both I and my employer know that I am competent.
I will leave my profession. And my only regret is that I chose to go into this profession in the first place. If I had known that the government will start interfering in my work and in my life this way, then I would have chosen some other profession.
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