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Re: A4C banding (UK)

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Re: A4C banding (UK)

Manky Badger19 Jul 2005 22:18
> Where are you and who the hell agredd to abandon scoring in favour of
> salary matching,

Deepest Kent.
As for agreeing, I'm still to meet anyone who agreed for A4C in the first
place, let alone any of the details of it's implementation.

> There is pressure to get this finished but also to get this right!!
>
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>>
>> Dave

Dan Smith19 Jul 2005 07:07
Where are you and who the hell agredd to abandon scoring in favour of salary
matching,

There is pressure to get this finished but also to get this right!!

>>> That doesn't look good.
>>> Which end of the bands are the points scores?
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>
> Dave

Dave L19 Jul 2005 05:20
>> That doesn't look good.
>> Which end of the bands are the points scores?
>
> Dunno - we got the gradings this pm.  It would seem that scoring was
> abandoned in favour of "salary-matching"

You need the scores and the justification for each factor.

>> There was a post on Dave Houlliston's group saying that across the
>> country the majority of experienced BMS 1s were 6, BMS 2s 7 and one
>> BMS 3 8b. I don't know how many this covered though.
>
> I find that group has very complex posts that don't actually say much
> :o)

I know what you mean, but there's still lots of info and someone on there
is collating the bandings.

>> If others come out on the higher bands then it should be picked up
>> during consistancy checking.
>
> Is there to be any national consistancy checking ?

Yes, although if the content isn't in your JD in the first place then
nothing will happen.

Dave

Manky Badger18 Jul 2005 22:05
>> Anyone got any updates on where BMS grades have fitted in to the A4C
>> bandings ?
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> That doesn't look good.
> Which end of the bands are the points scores?

Dunno - we got the gradings this pm.  It would seem that scoring was
abandoned in favour of "salary-matching"

> There was a post on Dave Houlliston's group saying that across the country
> the majority of experienced BMS 1s were 6, BMS 2s 7 and one BMS 3 8b.
> I don't know how many this covered though.

I find that group has very complex posts that don't actually say much :o)

> If others come out on the higher bands then it should be picked up during
> consistancy checking.

Is there to be any national consistancy checking ?

Dave L18 Jul 2005 21:43
> Anyone got any updates on where BMS grades have fitted in to the A4C
> bandings ?
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>
> Tribunals, here we come !!

That doesn't look good.
Which end of the bands are the points scores?

There was a post on Dave Houlliston's group saying that across the country
the majority of experienced BMS 1s were 6, BMS 2s 7 and one BMS 3 8b.
I don't know how many this covered though.

If others come out on the higher bands then it should be picked up during
consistancy checking.

Dave

Manky Badger18 Jul 2005 17:30
Anyone got any updates on where BMS grades have fitted in to the A4C
bandings ?

FWIW in my neck of the woods we have

MLA                    Band 2
Trainee BMS        Band 3
BMS (all of 'em)    Band 5
Senior BMS          Band 6
Chief BMS            Band 7

Tribunals, here we come !!

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