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what would you suggest i do, Andie???
oh, wait, you ASSumed that i didn't finally get treatment for hypothyroid???
do you know the difference that makes???
i'm 5'6" tall, and i wear a size 10 (with a belt to hold my jeans up as
they are falling off me again)

but thank you for thinking of me, yet again, a.shole!

Would suggest you stop lying and stop worshipping Satan.

Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.

Kate wrote:

Would suggest you have your doctor(s) supervise your using the
diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

There is the false belief that "fast food" causes obesity so that
obese people are avoiding "fast food" restaurants while lean people
who think they need to gain weight become regulars.

What is causing obesity continues to be the "hunger is starvation"
delusion.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Kate, can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://T3WiJ.com

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

much snipped.........

as a person who hasn't had 'fast food' as a rule (ok, once or twice a
year, i have a Peter's Hamburger, with only the bottom bun) and i
subsequently went from 125/135 lbs and gained 100 lbs over 3 years due
to untreated hypothyroid.............. i'm curious about this too

oddly enough, the people i have met at 'fast food' joints are skinny
folk who don't have to count/care (ok, maybe 0.5% are overweight, but
not the majority that i've seen)

kate

Why do you assume "obese" people eat a "large order of fast food?"  

PP

Yep...as we have all noticed, the large order of fast food, with a diet
soda. It's better than the sugared soda though, since that just adds more
calories to an already calorie laden order, which if using regular soda
could account for more pounds gained over time. I never was a big soda
drinker at all, but I do prefer the taste of diet soda over regular soda
when I have one.

Cheri

In fact it makes more sense to suggest that people who are obese look
towards artificial sweeteners to reduce their calorie intake.

This is association, not established causation.

Susan

Artificial Sweeteners Linked to Two-Fold Increase in Diabetes

People who use artificial sweeteners are heavier, more likely to have
diabetes, and more likely to be insulin-resistant compared with nonusers.
Results show an inverse association between obesity and diabetes, on one
side, and daily total caloric, carbohydrate, and fat intake, on the
other side, when comparing artificial sweetener users and control subjects.

The association may reflect the increased use of artificial sweeteners
by obese and/or diabetic study participants. "This is a cross-section
study, so there are limitations — we cannot say that artificial
sweetener use causes obesity, we can say it is associated with it,"
stated first author Kristofer S. Gravenstein, a postbaccalaureate
researcher with the Clinical Research Branch at the National Institute
of Aging (NIA), National Institutes of Health (NIH).

******Artificial sweeteners activate sweet taste receptors in
enteroendocrine cells, leading to the release of incretin, which is
known to contribute to glucose absorption. Recent epidemiologic studies
in Circulation (2008;117:754-761) and Obesity (2008;16:1894-1900) showed
an association between diet soda consumption and the development of
obesity and metabolic syndrome.*****

This report tested whether participants in the Baltimore Longitudinal
Study of Aging (BLSA), which began in 1958, differ in anthropometric
measures, daily caloric intake, and glucose status, separating them into
three different groups: artificial sweetener users, artificial sweetener
nonusers, or controls.

A total of 1,257 participants, with a mean age of 64.8 years (range, 21
- 96 years), had data on self-reported 7-day dietary intake, 2-hour oral
glucose tolerance test (OGTT), and anthropometric measures. The major
artificial sweetener consumed was aspartame, preferred by 66% of BLSA
participants, followed by saccharin (13%), sucralose (1.0%), and
combinations of the three (21%).

"In our study, we were actually able to isolate what type of sweetener
was used at a certain point in time, as we used food diaries, and not
food questionnaires."

"When we first did this analysis, we found that people ate more fat
before 1983, which is the year [of] a big increase in artificial
sweetener consumption in the American population — it was actually when
aspartame was approved and diet Coke was introduced," he explained.

******As a result, the study further analyzed data from a subset of
participants, starting in 1983. Compared with 550 people who did not use
artificial sweeteners, the 443 people who did were younger, heavier, and
had a higher body mass index (BMI), yet they did not consume more
calories from people who did not use artificial sweeteners. Fat,
carbohydrate, protein, and total caloric intake were not different
between the two groups (users vs nonusers).******

Furthermore, Mr. Gravenstein noted that people who used artificial
sweeteners "were less likely to have a normal OGTT, or they were less
likely to be diagnosed as having a normal glucose homeostasis."

In terms of glucose status (the impaired glucose tolerance (IGT), and/or
impaired fasting glucose (IFG)) the data show that artificial sweetener
users "were not different than the prediabetics, i.e., they had the same
prevalence of prediabetes," he said, adding that "in our population,
people who used artificial sweeteners were twice as likely to have
diabetes, 8.8% compared to 4.4% for controls."

Analyzing the data further, the investigators focused on a
subpopulation, in which fasting insulin values were available from 374
nonusers and 311 artificial sweetener users. The users had a higher
fasting glucose levels, higher fasting insulin levels, and a higher
measure of insulin resistance, as measured by the homeostasis model
assessment, but glycosylated hemoglobin A1c levels were similar between
the two groups.

The researchers suggest an alternative hypothesis, that artificial
sweeteners modulate the metabolic rate through enteroendocrine cells,
therefore contributing to the development of diabetes and/or obesity.
However, this hypothesis needs further testing in longitudinal analysis
and intervention studies, said the investigators.

"Also, it could be that artificial sweeteners are causing diabetes, or
it could be that there is a higher use of them because a lot of
physicians actually recommend people to use artificial sweeteners to
prevent diabetes" Mr. Gravenstein said. The researchers are planning to
address this question with a prospective analysis.

Presented at the Annual Meeting of the Endocrine Society: Abstract
P2-478. Presented June 11, 2009