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Re: post prandial indicator 1,5 anhydroglucitol

Peppermint Patootie07 Jul 2009 01:46
> > I don't know about that.  I know two people with ADHD.  Now maybe the "H"
> > has something to do with this.  They are both highly aware of any potential
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> enough that they seek them out. You find them enjoying dangerous
> sports etc..

I like carrying the help phone for the University website sometimes
because it wakes me up.  I can focus on those small immediate problems,
while if I go back to working on a project I'm on, my mind starts to
slide away.

PP

Chris Malcolm07 Jul 2009 01:34
>>>>>> Thanks.  I have the typical ADD ability to focus when there's novelty
>>>>>> involved, so I have that way of assisting myself, too.
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>> make them the first ones to be alert to danger.  It might also carry over
>> to the hunt where s/he might be the first to detect the presence of prey.

> I don't know about that.  I know two people with ADHD.  Now maybe the "H"
> has something to do with this.  They are both highly aware of any potential
> dangers but totally unaware of when real danger happens.  They also miss
> pretty much all of the little details.

Some ADDults are extremely good in serious life threatening
emergencies, not freaking out, being highly aware, focused, rational,
decisive. Some of them like what such emergencies do to their brains
enough that they seek them out. You find them enjoying dangerous
sports etc..

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Julie Bove06 Jul 2009 20:09
>>>>> Thanks.  I have the typical ADD ability to focus when there's novelty
>>>>> involved, so I have that way of assisting myself, too.
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> make them the first ones to be alert to danger.  It might also carry over
> to the hunt where s/he might be the first to detect the presence of prey.

I don't know about that.  I know two people with ADHD.  Now maybe the "H"
has something to do with this.  They are both highly aware of any potential
dangers but totally unaware of when real danger happens.  They also miss
pretty much all of the little details.

Michelle C.06 Jul 2009 15:44
>>>> Thanks.  I have the typical ADD ability to focus when there's novelty
>>>> involved, so I have that way of assisting myself, too.
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>
> Once again thank you,

Hi Quentin,

I agree.  We call all relate to this type of behavior in some ways.
It's the extremeness of it that is the issue.

I read an interesting article once that hypothesized that a person with
ADD who lived a more primitive tribal existence would be a great benefit
to the tribe.  The fact that people with ADD are highly distractable
would make them the first ones to be alert to danger.  It might also
carry over to the hunt where s/he might be the first to detect the
presence of prey.

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2

Quentin Grady04 Jul 2009 06:48
>>> Thanks.  I have the typical ADD ability to focus when there's novelty
>>> involved, so I have that way of assisting myself, too.
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>Best regards,
>Michelle C., T2

Thanks Michelle,

 Fascinating.

It seems almost normal behaviour but extreme in its execution.
It is easy to imagine being distracted from something boring like
doing accounting but being absorbed in some fascinating new idea.

Once again thank you,
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Michelle C.03 Jul 2009 20:15
>> Thanks.  I have the typical ADD ability to focus when there's novelty
>> involved, so I have that way of assisting myself, too.
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> Thanks,
> Quentin.

Hi Quentin,

I can't answer for PP, however in my observation of my dad, it's easy to
distract him from mundane things like paying bills example.  A stray
thought, (or an interruption) causes him to lose his place and he has to
backtrack to remember where he was in the process.  (He has a routine
that must be done in order.) However if the thing he's focused on is
novel, then stray thoughts are much less likely.  In fact, sometimes
what I call hyperfocus comes into play.  He can think about a
problem/puzzle/interesting idea for hours.

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2

Quentin Grady03 Jul 2009 06:23
>Thanks.  I have the typical ADD ability to focus when there's novelty
>involved, so I have that way of assisting myself, too.

Hi PP,

Help me understand this more fully please.
Does novelty distract you or assist you?
I'd like to understand ADD better.

Thanks,
Quentin.

> A cubicle move
>at work helped a LOT, giving me changes in my physical environment to
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>PP
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Peppermint Patootie18 Jun 2009 16:57
> >> Although the seligiline is a long-acting med--he takes a tiny dose every
> >>   3 days--sometimes, he finds taking a break from it helps him "reset".
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>
> I hope you're able to find something that works better for you, Priscilla.

Thanks.  I have the typical ADD ability to focus when there's novelty
involved, so I have that way of assisting myself, too.  A cubicle move
at work helped a LOT, giving me changes in my physical environment to
jangle my novelty detector.  Management's becoming somewhat more rigid
in terms of time reporting is also helping me by forcing me to keep more
lists and notes.  So, it's not all about meds, for me at least.

PP

Michelle C17 Jun 2009 19:09
>> Although the seligiline is a long-acting med--he takes a tiny dose every
>>   3 days--sometimes, he finds taking a break from it helps him "reset".
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>
> PP

I hope you're able to find something that works better for you, Priscilla.

Best regards,
Michelle C.

Peppermint Patootie16 Jun 2009 22:04
> Although the seligiline is a long-acting med--he takes a tiny dose every
>   3 days--sometimes, he finds taking a break from it helps him "reset".
>   Of course, the "reset" period has to occur when there isn't much going
> on that requires his attention.

On weekends I often either take only 1 Adderall a day instead of 2 or
just skip it.  My psydoc says that's why I haven't built up a tolerance.  
I don't think I have.  I just need something else maybe.

PP

Michelle C16 Jun 2009 18:35
Peppermint Patootie wrote:
> In article <h165l8$ffl$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Michelle C <bookbug_35@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, my father has ADD (he's 64 now).  Looking back, we know he had
ADD as child--back when no one had a clue about it and just thought he
was incorrigible.  Also highly intelligent.  He remembers his dad
shouting at him, "Your IQ is higher than mine.  How come you can't do
your school work?"  Pretty much describes the whole issue in a nutshell.
 The failure of his family to understand (not that they had any
resources for understanding ADD back in the 50's) shot the hell out of
his self-esteem, which added to the problem.

> Wow.  This is so exactly my experience.  I was born in 1953.
Starting in elementary school my mother would repeatedly back me into a
corner.  "What do you do these things?" she'd rage, and I had no answer.
 So they concluded I was lazy, irresponsible, obstinate and, yes,
incorrigible, and I had nowhere to go but end up agreeing with them.
It's a horrible feeling, to think you have no recourse but to say it's
your fault you did those things you had no intention of doing.  Wears
out any self-esteem you've got.  Shame city.

Yep, you've described it exactly.

Surprisingly, since my grandparents have come to live nearby (in a house
behind ours), I've realized that my grandpa--my dad's dad--has ADD too.
  He has trouble following conversations, often goes off on tangents,
and frequently fails to acknowledge what was just said, because he's
thinking his own thoughts.  Looking back over the years, I can see that
he's always been this way, but seeing him nearly everyday has brought
this home to me.

Unlike my dad who had such trouble in school, my grandpa did okay
though.  However, his school experience occurred in a one room school
house with 13 kids ranging in age from 1st grade to 8th.  Much less
stressful environment with individualized attention.

My dad's brother shows some symptoms too.

>> He was diagnosed when he was in his 40's, but didn't find adequate
medication until his early 50's.  He takes the Parkinson's med,
seligiline for it.

> I'm on Adderall, which helps a lot, but I may need to fine tune it
sometime.  I'm starting to have problems at work again.

Although the seligiline is a long-acting med--he takes a tiny dose every
 3 days--sometimes, he finds taking a break from it helps him "reset".
 Of course, the "reset" period has to occur when there isn't much going
on that requires his attention.

Michelle C.

> PP

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