Re: I asked the graduate school prof about an NTI
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Re: I asked the graduate school prof about an NTI
| The Webby | 27 Feb 2007 15:06 |
Excellent points.
Webby
> Yes, personal experiences are generally good to hear about. > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > > > Thanks for the unbiased report. Keep them coming, please! |
| Dartos | 27 Feb 2007 14:18 |
Yes, personal experiences are generally good to hear about.
If your tongue is sore, you need to have the device trimmed and polished.
Sore incisors are not normal either. How 'tall' is the discluding (not occluding) element? The original NTI devices had a rather long and tall discluding element. It required significant trimming for most cases.
The newer 'reduced vertical' NTI needs much less trimming for the average case, but for closed bites, it may not open the bite sufficiently. For significant overbites, even the reduced vertical sometimes needs adjusting.
I suspect that an adjustment with your vertical might help.
One size doesn't fit all.
That also brings up a point about the fees. There are times where I may need to make a different NTI than I first construct. There are lots of times that I need to fine tune the device. I may need to trim and polish for a sore tongue. I may need to alter the bite. I may need to make a 'slide bar' to go along with the regular NTI.
The point is that we should not be saying, "An NTI cost $X", and a patient should not just have an NTI made and be dismissed as if the treatment is complete!
The fee should include working with the patient and their NTI until everything is as comfortable as possible. The fee is for treatment that includes an NTI. Not a fee just for an NTI.
If the patient is not told to communicate any problems, return for possible adjustments, keep the device away from pets (especially dogs, they will chew them up in a heartbeat), bring the NTI in when getting check-up, to occasionally check the discluding element for wear or notches, etc., then the patient is being short changed.
JMO, D
>>>My student dentist had indicated that she thought I grinded my teeth >>>and so should get a night guard. I said that I doubted I would be able [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Thanks for the unbiased report. Keep them coming, please! |
| JimSocal | 27 Feb 2007 07:55 |
>> My student dentist had indicated that she thought I grinded my teeth >> and so should get a night guard. I said that I doubted I would be able [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >by 50%, with the NTI I have not seen any change yet (but it's only >been 4 nights so far). Thanks for the unbiased report. Keep them coming, please!
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| grubertm@gmail.com | 27 Feb 2007 00:10 |
> My student dentist had indicated that she thought I grinded my teeth > and so should get a night guard. I said that I doubted I would be able > to wear one because I am a very light sleeper and had trouble wearing > the teeth whitening thing that was made for me a few years ago. Your mileage will vary, but since I changed from a lower jaw soft nightguard to an upper NTI last week here's my impression. The nightguard is bulky and fell out the first few nights I have worn it. The NTI on the other hand is tiny and stays in place. However, it puts some pressure on upper and lower incissors, I also wake up with a sore tongue since it seems to rub against the occluding element. So far I would rate the soft nightguard higher in comfort, but if you can't sleep with your mouth feeling full then the NTI might be a better choice. Price for night guard ~ $200 (back in 2002), price for NTI ~ $450 (last Wednesday).
> I really have no > proof or indication, that I grind all that much in the first place. I > have never had headaches much at all (until my recent sinus lift - see > my thread on that!). So I am skeptical about my need for any kind of > guard. That might also reduce the willingness to wear them. My jaw clicks when opened wide and the muscles are sore, so there was good motivation to do something about it. The nightguard reduced symptoms by 50%, with the NTI I have not seen any change yet (but it's only been 4 nights so far).
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| JimSocal | 23 Feb 2007 08:23 |
My student dentist had indicated that she thought I grinded my teeth and so should get a night guard. I said that I doubted I would be able to wear one because I am a very light sleeper and had trouble wearing the teeth whitening thing that was made for me a few years ago.
So then I read you guys talking about NTI and I decided to ask her about that.
So I did and she had never heard of it. She asked another student dentist and he had never heard of it.
Then she asked the prof, probably 60 years old.
He looked puzzled and said it was for headaches. I said, "Yes, but apparently some dentists are using them successfully for grinding problems."
He said, "Maybe for short term use it might be okay, especially if grinding is giving you headaches, but long term use will probably cause the front teeth to protrude, and also it can cause problems in the jaw, leading to TMJ or other problems." I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was something like that.
In any case, he was very much against it.
Seemed to me that he really didn't know much about it, though and was probably behind-the-times in his views on this.
But what about these assertions?
Personally, the cost of a night guard OR an NTI seems overpriced to me, and I am leaning towards not getting either one. I really have no proof or indication, that I grind all that much in the first place. I have never had headaches much at all (until my recent sinus lift - see my thread on that!). So I am skeptical about my need for any kind of guard.
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