Interesting...

Thanks. I'll print out some stuff and hand it to the dentist or the
prof.

Fat chance they'd do that. But I'll put the info on the sheet I print
out. What is the Internet Dental Forum, or Where is it, specifically
(url)? Is it www.internetdentalforum.net or
http://www.internetdentalforum.org?

No hidden charges.  It takes about 10 minutes and $15 to make an NTI
(once you get the hang of it).  It is made directly in your mouth.
No impressions.  No models.  No lab bill.  The fee is in the knowledge
to use the device and its relative value for what you get out of it
(compared to drugs, full mouth rehab, conventional splints, etc.)

It is so predictable and so easy that I don't have much of a risk.

The NTI website would be a good place to start (HeadacheHope.com)

They could join the Internet Dental Forum or visit us right here on smd.

Steve

Steve, that's a great deal! If I was offered that deal, I would take
it! I would also give it a fair test, forcing myself to use it for a
month. Seems like a big risk on your part, to have to "eat" the
device. I assume they still pay for the sessions leading up to the
making of it, though, the models and so forth? You can't give away
your time.

Anyway, I felt that the prof should have just said, "No, I really
don't know much about it" instead of feeling he had to come up with an
answer. I think he was put on the spot for having to come up with an
answer, not wanting to admit in front of his student that a patient
knew more about something (what I have read here) than he did. So
therefore he just blathered out an answer.

I'd like to take him and my student dentist some info on the NTI. If I
could print out just one or two articles from the net, what would you
recommmend? If he was impressed, he might introduce this technology to
the dental school!

Pure, unadulterated BS.  They do not use or understand the device
and have made up complications that simply do not exist.

What is it worth to get rid of pain?  What is it worth to preserve
tooth structure, reduce fractured teeth, avoid a root canal or two,
and the subsequent crown?

How about doctors visits, MRIs, CAT scans, other tests, and drugs to
treat problems that will be controled with one little piece of
plastic (with no side effects!).

Skepticism is natural.  It took me a year after learning of them
to ever make one.  That's been over 7 years ago, and I still can't
believe how good they really are.

The way I treat skeptics is to make an NTI with the deal that they
can pay for it a month later or give it back to me a month later.
Very few want to give it back. Of the ones who do say 'no',
I don't know if any of them actually used the device for even one whole
night.

Steve

My student dentist had indicated that she thought I grinded my teeth
and so should get a night guard. I said that I doubted I would be able
to wear one because I am a very light sleeper and had trouble wearing
the teeth whitening thing that was made for me a few years ago.

So then I read you guys talking about NTI and I decided to ask her
about that.

So I did and she had never heard of it. She asked another student
dentist and he had never heard of it.

Then she asked the prof, probably 60 years old.

He looked puzzled and said it was for headaches. I said, "Yes, but
apparently some dentists are using them successfully for grinding
problems."

He said, "Maybe for short term use it might be okay, especially if
grinding is giving you headaches, but long term use will probably
cause the front teeth to protrude, and also it can cause problems in
the jaw, leading to TMJ or other problems." I can't remember exactly
what he said, but it was something like that.

In any case, he was very much against it.

Seemed to me that he really didn't know much about it, though and was
probably behind-the-times in his views on this.

But what about these assertions?

Personally, the cost of a night guard OR an NTI seems overpriced to
me, and I am leaning towards not getting either one. I really have no
proof or indication, that I grind all that much in the first place. I
have never had headaches much at all (until my recent sinus lift - see
my thread on that!). So I am skeptical about my need for any kind of
guard.