Re: Root Canal Pain
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Re: Root Canal Pain
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 27 Sep 2006 13:57 |
> I can tell you that I have no anxiety about pain when I take NO. You > could pull every tooth out of my mouth and I would not bat an eyelid. > > Indeed the anticipation of pain heightens the perception. But > perception of pain is nevertheless very real and not just a neurotic > disorder. I would never suggest that dental pain is a neurotic disorder
Eric Berne might have gotten by with sexual fantasies
> blocking dental pain, but that sort of thing does not work for me at > all. > > The good news for the dentist is that when I take NO, I do not > interfere with the treatment at all. I don't even laugh. I've never seen anyone laugh with NO actually. It's great for some patients.
Steve
> -- > > "There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress." > --Mark Twain
 Signature Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| Citizen Bob | 27 Sep 2006 04:15 |
> There is no question that anxiety affects pain perception. But apart >from that, anxiety is worth taking seriously--not only because it is >unpleasant in itself, but because it interferes directly with treatment. I can tell you that I have no anxiety about pain when I take NO. You could pull every tooth out of my mouth and I would not bat an eyelid.
Indeed the anticipation of pain heightens the perception. But perception of pain is nevertheless very real and not just a neurotic disorder. Eric Berne might have gotten by with sexual fantasies blocking dental pain, but that sort of thing does not work for me at all.
The good news for the dentist is that when I take NO, I do not interfere with the treatment at all. I don't even laugh.
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"There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress." --Mark Twain
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| Steven Bornfeld | 27 Sep 2006 02:47 |
>>>Why not use nitrous oxide? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > real pain - excruciating pain. It takes more than Valium to kill such > pain. There is no question that anxiety affects pain perception. But apart from that, anxiety is worth taking seriously--not only because it is unpleasant in itself, but because it interferes directly with treatment.
Steve
> -- > > "There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress." > --Mark Twain |
| Citizen Bob | 27 Sep 2006 00:10 |
>> Why not use nitrous oxide?
> That could be appropriate too. We don't know if the endodontist has >nitrous. If he doesn't, find one who does.
I have been told that if it weren't for anoxia, NO would be a perfect anesthetic.
>Anything that could relieve short-term anxiety might be useful. You seem to be implying that pain killers are a matter of anxiety relief. Believe me, when the endodontist hits the root, there is very real pain - excruciating pain. It takes more than Valium to kill such pain.
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"There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress." --Mark Twain
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| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 26 Sep 2006 18:56 |
>> Not knowing you except for what you are posting here, it appears that >>anxiety is a large part of the problem (understandably so), perhaps more [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why not use nitrous oxide? That could be appropriate too. We don't know if the endodontist has nitrous. Anything that could relieve short-term anxiety might be useful.
Steve
> -- > > "There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress." > --Mark Twain
 Signature Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| Citizen Bob | 26 Sep 2006 18:39 |
> Not knowing you except for what you are posting here, it appears that >anxiety is a large part of the problem (understandably so), perhaps more >than the actual pain relief, which as I said will almost certainly be >much easier than last time. Under the circumstances, I would be >inclined to agree with your endodontist. Why not use nitrous oxide?
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"There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress." --Mark Twain
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| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 26 Sep 2006 17:23 |
> If it does its job, next time should be much easier. > > IF? > Oh I do not know if I can ake te chance. The endodentist wants me to > take a Valium before I go next time. WHat is your opinion? Not knowing you except for what you are posting here, it appears that anxiety is a large part of the problem (understandably so), perhaps more than the actual pain relief, which as I said will almost certainly be much easier than last time. Under the circumstances, I would be inclined to agree with your endodontist.
Steve
 Signature Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| harem70 | 26 Sep 2006 17:12 |
If it does its job, next time should be much easier.
IF? Oh I do not know if I can ake te chance. The endodentist wants me to take a Valium before I go next time. WHat is your opinion?
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| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 26 Sep 2006 14:43 |
> My endodentist attempted a root canal on a lower back molar today. I > have undergone 2 root canals with the same doctor before and had zero [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I do not think I have the inner strength to attempt it again. > What is happening and how can I continue? It is sometimes impossible to numb a "hot" tooth. Injecting into a pulp in this condition is not fun. I presume the endodontist placed a fixative agent in the pulp chamber, which should kill remaining vital nerve tissue. If it does its job, next time should be much easier.
Steve
 Signature Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| harem70 | 26 Sep 2006 08:13 |
My endodentist attempted a root canal on a lower back molar today. I have undergone 2 root canals with the same doctor before and had zero discomfort. Today she gave me 2 injections which numbed my mouth very well. Once she was inside the tooth I experienced pain. She then injected inside the tooth (excruciating 2 seconds of pain). She drilled some more and all was ok, then she inserted the first file, and I FLEW up in the air. The pain was beyond belief. I had tears streaming down my face and could not believe this could happen to me. She then packed the tooth and filled it, and said when I go back next week the nerve should be virtually dead and she will continue. I do not think I have the inner strength to attempt it again. What is happening and how can I continue?
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