Re: root canal failure
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Re: root canal failure
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 29 Aug 2006 17:49 |
> "Recognition of an irrigant-related mishap will be readily apparent. The > patient may immediately complain of severe pain, and swelling can be violent [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > dentists wouldn't even consider this occurring or have any idea what we were > even talking about. I have been to dental school...and it is scary!!! There was a case report a couple of years ago in one of the journals (I'm thinking it was General Dentistry, but I'm not sure). It was scary for sure. Hopefully the OP will respond.
Steve
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| C.J. Thomas | 29 Aug 2006 15:45 |
"Recognition of an irrigant-related mishap will be readily apparent. The patient may immediately complain of severe pain, and swelling can be violent and alarming."
-Ingle and Bakland, Endodontics 5th addition 2002.
I would disagree about the rate of swelling...a quick look at the lit and a few case reviews of the matter reveal that both pain and swelling are immediate. Here are a few references:
Hales JJ. Jackson CR. Everett AP. Moore SH. Treatment protocol for the management of a sodium hypochlorite accident during endodontic therapy. General Dentistry. 49(3):278-81, 2001 May-Jun.
Neaverth EJ. Swindle R. A serious complication following the inadvertent injection of sodium hypochlorite outside the root canal system. Compendium. 11(8):474, 476, 478-81, 1990 Aug.
Gatot A. Arbelle J. Leiberman A. Yanai-Inbar I. Effects of sodium hypochlorite on soft tissues after its inadvertent injection beyond the root apex. [Review] [9 refs] Journal of Endodontics. 17(11):573-4, 1991 Nov.
Gernhardt CR. Eppendorf K. Kozlowski A. Brandt M. Toxicity of concentrated sodium hypochlorite used as an endodontic irrigant. International Endodontic Journal. 37(4):272-80, 2004 Apr.
The severe pain, swelling, and even coloration sounds like it could be a hypochlorite incident. I would also be willing to wager that a lot of dentists wouldn't even consider this occurring or have any idea what we were even talking about. I have been to dental school...and it is scary!!!
>> Hmmm...wonder if there was a sodium hypochlorite incident here. Was the >> dentist injecting any sort of medicine directly into the tooth itself [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >>>> >>>>Steve |
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 29 Aug 2006 15:30 |
> Hmmm...wonder if there was a sodium hypochlorite incident here. Was the > dentist injecting any sort of medicine directly into the tooth itself when > this happened? If this was a lower tooth, did he numb up the entire jaw > with one injection in the beginning? If he had started the root canal, was > inside the pulp, and injected the cleaning solution into the tooth which > resulted in this feeling of pain, let me know ASAP. I hadn't even thought of that. I'm thinking no--the swelling wouldn't have been immediate. Obviously, if this is a reaction to sodium hypochlorite this is very serious.
Steve
>>This was on the bottom right. Which is one of the reasons why my entire >>right cheek, jaw and down my neck swelled up and became black and blue [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >>> >>>Steve
 Signature Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| C.J. Thomas | 29 Aug 2006 12:06 |
Hmmm...wonder if there was a sodium hypochlorite incident here. Was the dentist injecting any sort of medicine directly into the tooth itself when this happened? If this was a lower tooth, did he numb up the entire jaw with one injection in the beginning? If he had started the root canal, was inside the pulp, and injected the cleaning solution into the tooth which resulted in this feeling of pain, let me know ASAP.
> This was on the bottom right. Which is one of the reasons why my entire > right cheek, jaw and down my neck swelled up and became black and blue [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >> >> Steve |
| Susan | 29 Aug 2006 02:02 |
This was on the bottom right. Which is one of the reasons why my entire right cheek, jaw and down my neck swelled up and became black and blue
This is very unusual, the dentist even said that too. Perhaps he was inexperienced in this field.
Has to be finished up at some point. Wondering if I should even go back to him or not. Afraid it will happen again
It has improved since last Wednesday. But a bit concerned that the dentist has not made a call to see how I am doing since last Thursday
>> I went in to the dentist to have 2 root canals done, side by side. The >> one came out ok. Then he started working on the other one. Then the [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Steve |
| Steven Bornfeld | 29 Aug 2006 01:41 |
> I went in to the dentist to have 2 root canals done, side by side. The > one came out ok. Then he started working on the other one. Then the sh__ [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Susan If this is in the upper premolar or first molar area, your dentist doubtless damaged a vein in the pterygoid venous plexus. I've seen this only once--the patient in the cubicle next to me in dental school. I think the instructor may have given the injection. It's almost certainly just one of those things. You have to stay close to the bone to try to avoid the plexus. My guess is (based on the rarity of this happening) than unless you have a very unusually prominent plexus this is unlikely to happen again. You probably should be followed by an oral surgeon to manage the hematoma, and may need to be on antibiotics to lessen the chance of infection.
Steve
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| Susan | 29 Aug 2006 00:45 |
I went in to the dentist to have 2 root canals done, side by side. The one came out ok. Then he started working on the other one. Then the sh__ hit the fan.
I let out a scream and within moments my right cheek swelled up so big I look like a freak show. By that night, not only was I all swelled on my cheek, jaw and down my neck, I was also black and blue.
Did this guy know what the heck he was doing or what? He said as a result of the needle hitting a vein, it was hematoma.
Now, I have had many root canals over course of time. But never like this. Talked to many people and they are shocked too
He never did get the chance to finish it. And I had to be out of work Thursday and Friday taking sick leave. Could hardly open my mouth to talk. Let alone not being able to eat much of anything
I am at a loss here, and don't know whether I should go back and have him finish it (and hit another vein) or find someone else. Really confused
Any suggestions?
Susan
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