Re: Paging Dr. King
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Re: Paging Dr. King
| C.J. Thomas | 29 Aug 2006 21:58 |
What if it was a hematoma associated with the mental neurovascular bundle? However, that shout of pain really reminds me of what I have read and seen in lit review and in the undergrad clinic.
>>>>>>but for this case, the tooth was mandibular, correct? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Steve |
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 29 Aug 2006 20:36 |
>>>>>but for this case, the tooth was mandibular, correct? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Nah, the bleach. Too rapid for the venous plexus. Really? I saw the side of someone's face blow up like a balloon once after a maxillary infiltration--very striking, and certainly no bleach involved.
Steve
 Signature Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| Dave King | 29 Aug 2006 20:03 |
>>>>but for this case, the tooth was mandibular, correct? >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Steve Nah, the bleach. Too rapid for the venous plexus.
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| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 29 Aug 2006 19:50 |
>>>but for this case, the tooth was mandibular, correct? >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dave So you agree it's probably bleeding from the pterygoid venous plexus?
Steve
 Signature Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| Dave King | 29 Aug 2006 18:53 |
>> but for this case, the tooth was mandibular, correct? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Steve Your thinking what I am. That stuff should be considered a WMD when it escapes from where it belongs. The instantaneous pain and swelling are tell-tale.
Dave
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| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 29 Aug 2006 17:53 |
> but for this case, the tooth was mandibular, correct? That is what the patient reported. The only thing I can say (until the OP responds) is that my memory of the case reports of NaHClO3 extrusion were so awful--progressing to noma if memory serves--that the patient's complaint of having to take last Thurs. and Fri. off would have been followed by an even more serious story line.
Steve
 Signature Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| C.J. Thomas | 29 Aug 2006 15:46 |
but for this case, the tooth was mandibular, correct?
>> This was on the bottom right. Which is one of the reasons why my entire >> right cheek, jaw and down my neck swelled up and became black and blue [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >>> >>> Steve |
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld | 29 Aug 2006 15:32 |
> This was on the bottom right. Which is one of the reasons why my entire > right cheek, jaw and down my neck swelled up and became black and blue [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It has improved since last Wednesday. But a bit concerned that the > dentist has not made a call to see how I am doing since last Thursday I have changed the header and hope our resident oral surgeon will read this. I'm thinking it may still be possible with an errant injection to the pterygoid plexus if the injection is a bit high and lateral. Before I start to dig out my anatomy and anesthesia texts, maybe Dr. King will read this.
Steve
>>> I went in to the dentist to have 2 root canals done, side by side. >>> The one came out ok. Then he started working on the other one. Then [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >> Steve
 Signature Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| Susan | 29 Aug 2006 02:02 |
This was on the bottom right. Which is one of the reasons why my entire right cheek, jaw and down my neck swelled up and became black and blue
This is very unusual, the dentist even said that too. Perhaps he was inexperienced in this field.
Has to be finished up at some point. Wondering if I should even go back to him or not. Afraid it will happen again
It has improved since last Wednesday. But a bit concerned that the dentist has not made a call to see how I am doing since last Thursday
>> I went in to the dentist to have 2 root canals done, side by side. The >> one came out ok. Then he started working on the other one. Then the [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Steve |
| Steven Bornfeld | 29 Aug 2006 01:41 |
> I went in to the dentist to have 2 root canals done, side by side. The > one came out ok. Then he started working on the other one. Then the sh__ [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Susan If this is in the upper premolar or first molar area, your dentist doubtless damaged a vein in the pterygoid venous plexus. I've seen this only once--the patient in the cubicle next to me in dental school. I think the instructor may have given the injection. It's almost certainly just one of those things. You have to stay close to the bone to try to avoid the plexus. My guess is (based on the rarity of this happening) than unless you have a very unusually prominent plexus this is unlikely to happen again. You probably should be followed by an oral surgeon to manage the hematoma, and may need to be on antibiotics to lessen the chance of infection.
Steve
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| Susan | 29 Aug 2006 00:45 |
I went in to the dentist to have 2 root canals done, side by side. The one came out ok. Then he started working on the other one. Then the sh__ hit the fan.
I let out a scream and within moments my right cheek swelled up so big I look like a freak show. By that night, not only was I all swelled on my cheek, jaw and down my neck, I was also black and blue.
Did this guy know what the heck he was doing or what? He said as a result of the needle hitting a vein, it was hematoma.
Now, I have had many root canals over course of time. But never like this. Talked to many people and they are shocked too
He never did get the chance to finish it. And I had to be out of work Thursday and Friday taking sick leave. Could hardly open my mouth to talk. Let alone not being able to eat much of anything
I am at a loss here, and don't know whether I should go back and have him finish it (and hit another vein) or find someone else. Really confused
Any suggestions?
Susan
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