Re: RCT perforation help
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Re: RCT perforation help
| Dr Steve | 27 Jul 2005 13:02 |
For a long time, dentistry taught us to place posts in every tooth which received RCT. That has now come around 180 degrees. Root perforation is a known possible complication of post placement. Many teeth have laterally flattened canals which do not show up on x-ray images. The post is placed in a conventional manner which looks great on the post-treatment x-ray image. Many years later, an x-ray image is made with a "funny" angle, and the perforation is seen. Generally, some slowly progressive bone loss occurs around the perforation. A lot of these can be effectively treated by removing the crown and post, and filling the defect with MTA. Many can be treated with surgical therapy. Some can be left alone. A few are lost. Just as any ride in an automobile carries some risk, so does any dental treatment.
Now, if your previous DDS knew about the perforation, he/she has an obligation to discuss it with you on ethical grounds. If the perforation does not show up on routine imaging and you do not have any symptoms, the previous DDS may not even be aware of the perforation.
If you go to a body shop and the mechanic fails to prime and paint the inner surface of the new replacement body panel, the owner may not know about it, you certainly won't know until it begins to rust out again.
Ask The Webby about an iatroepidemic. The term refers to organized medicine/dentistry performing specific treatment because the current state of knowledge says this is the best choice of therapy. Later on, it is discovered that the course of therapy used was not optimum and should not have been used by the profession because it causes other problems.
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> >> Root perforation with a screw post attempting to rebuild a severely [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > wrong and it was bad dentistry. He then told me I needed a rct for that > tooth. Now I have a new cap along with an expensive rct. |
| LB | 27 Jul 2005 12:48 |
> Root perforation with a screw post attempting to rebuild a severely > damaged [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and > warned you of potential complications. It wasn't a severely damaged tooth. I was told there was an abcess and rct was the only remedy.
> That said, once it happened, there wasn't a lot to be done. If the > tooth did [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the tooth was lost. That could have been when the post was originally > inserted, or now. What's the difference? The difference is, if the rct had been done correctly OR I was directed to a specialist I would not have to have the tooth extracted and go through the added expence of "bridging" the missing tooth. Now I'm out $1200 PLUS the newly discovered needed work expense. That's what really "frosts"me. I paid the FULL amount for an "accident" and not even being told. Certainly if the dr. brought his car to a body shop for repairs and was treated the same way he'd have a different attitude......
> If a dentist screws up half of the post he tries to place, that would > be terrible. > If this is one out of 100, s*** happens. When was the post inserted? About 5yrs ago.
> How much did it cost? If I recall correctly, I paid well over $1200 for the complete treatment which does include the crown.
What did you pay out of your pocket? Every penny of the cost. I don't have dental ins.
> We could also get into a discussion about how many posts are really needed anyway, but that's another issue.
Seems like almost every time one is needed..... 20 yrs ago I had a front tooth capped. At that time the Dr. said I don't need a post. He inserted two small pins on either side of the canal. This held all the while without any problems. The dr. that did the above mentioned rct told me the pins were wrong and it was bad dentistry. He then told me I needed a rct for that tooth. Now I have a new cap along with an expensive rct.
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| Fawks | 27 Jul 2005 01:18 |
Root perforation with a screw post attempting to rebuild a severely damaged tooth is certainly an unwanted complication. If the original dentist knew that the 'accident' occured, he should have informed you of the situation and warned you of potential complications.
That said, once it happened, there wasn't a lot to be done. If the tooth did not hurt, there was no infection, and nothing fell apart, leaving it alone was not a bad idea. If you had known about it, it could have been checked with an X-ray once in a while.
As far as a bridge and extra expense, that would have happened at any time the tooth was lost. That could have been when the post was originally inserted, or now. What's the difference?
If a dentist screws up half of the post he tries to place, that would be terrible. If this is one out of 100, s*** happens. When was the post inserted? How much did it cost? What did you pay out of your pocket?
We could also get into a discussion about how many posts are really needed anyway, but that's another issue.
Best wishes, Fawks
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| LB | 26 Jul 2005 22:28 |
I'm new to this group but don't know where to go for some information. I had a severe toothache about 6 weeks ago. I'm new to this area so I just went to a local dentist for help. I was x-rayed and told I have a problem and needed root canal therapy. They gave me an appointment for 3 1/2 weeks later to have this done. The pain was severe and I couldn't wait that long. I located another dentist that was referred to me 160 miles from where I live. I got an emergency appointment and he did an emergency pulpotomy. That was an instant relief. However, during the second visit he did a thorough exam and tested for bone density. It was discovered that another dentist did a root canal and went through the side of my tooth and the screw/post is about 1/8 inch into the bone. This caused a 50% bone loss. The dentist told me an extraction is eminent and the sooner the better. My question is....... Should a dentist that perforated a tooth at least tell the patient??? Now, I'll probably be needing bridgework causing extra expense...... Thanks for any information.
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