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Re: Reading books on the subject of "TMJ"

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Re: Reading books on the subject of "TMJ"

W_B27 Jun 2005 14:27
>>>One of the best dentists I ever saw (defining "best" as the ability to
>>>save a tooth and not cause me pain while doing so) shocked me by trying
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>
>I don't know what "ITYM" means.

I Think You Mean/Meant

>I'm aware of no changes in my Temporo Mandibular Joint (glad I don't have
>to try to pronounce *that*), good or bad, in the past couple of decades.
>It certainly isn't dislocating; it isn't that kind of pop. It's more like
>knuckles cracking.

Crepitus.

>>>On a follow up visit, a loud female who was outside of my field of view
>>>just gushed about how much better her life was after treatment for TMJ
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>
>So was mine, which was the point of my post.

NTI
headachehope.com
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

Tony Sivori24 Jun 2005 23:48
>>One of the best dentists I ever saw (defining "best" as the ability to
>>save a tooth and not cause me pain while doing so) shocked me by trying
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> ITYM no symptoms yet.

I don't know what "ITYM" means.

I'm aware of no changes in my Temporo Mandibular Joint (glad I don't have
to try to pronounce *that*), good or bad, in the past couple of decades.
It certainly isn't dislocating; it isn't that kind of pop. It's more like
knuckles cracking.

>>On a follow up visit, a loud female who was outside of my field of view
>>just gushed about how much better her life was after treatment for TMJ
[...]
>>It is amazing what doctors sometimes do when they lose sight of helping
>>their patients first, and instead put the profits first.
>
> My bullsh*tometer just pegged.

So was mine, which was the point of my post.

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Tony Sivori


W_B20 Jun 2005 16:15
>> This book by A. Richard Goldman, DDS can be read online:
>>
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>sell me treatment for TMJ. My jaw does occasionally make a popping sound
>when I open it wide, for instance when undergoing dental treatment.

Internal derangement of the TemporoMandibular Joint.

>But I
>have zero other symptoms of TMJ. No pain, no headaches. No nothing. He
>just went on and on about how he was going to "help" me.

ITYM no symptoms yet.

>On a follow up visit, a loud female who was outside of my field of view
>just gushed about how much better her life was after treatment for TMJ
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>It is amazing what doctors sometimes do when they lose sight of
>helping their patients first, and instead put the profits first.

My bullsh*tometer just pegged.
--

W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

Tony Sivori18 Jun 2005 23:12
> This book by A. Richard Goldman, DDS can be read online:
>
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>
> http://www.headandneck.com/book/
[snip]

> Here's hoping that readers will take a quick look, or a long one, to see
> why I have decided to bring it to the "table".
>
> Webby

One of the best dentists I ever saw (defining "best" as the ability to
save a tooth and not cause me pain while doing so) shocked me by trying to
sell me treatment for TMJ. My jaw does occasionally make a popping sound
when I open it wide, for instance when undergoing dental treatment. But I
have zero other symptoms of TMJ. No pain, no headaches. No nothing. He
just went on and on about how he was going to "help" me.

On a follow up visit, a loud female who was outside of my field of view
just gushed about how much better her life was after treatment for TMJ
from the good doctor. Minutes later, when it was my turn to be seen, he
brought it up again. I finally just told him a bald faced lie that
I never ever hear any popping sounds when I open my mouth - even though
I'm sure he had heard them himself.

It is amazing what doctors sometimes do when they lose sight of
helping their patients first, and instead put the profits first.

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Tony Sivori


The Webby15 Jun 2005 17:35
This book by A. Richard Goldman, DDS can be read online:

"TMJ  Syndrome: The Overlooked Diagnosis" Congdon and Weed 1987, Simon
and  Schuster 1989, Concorde Press 1997

http://www.headandneck.com/book/

http://www.headandneck.com/book/TOC.htm  (Table of Contents)

I have a copy of it in storage somewhere... probably the 1987 edition.  
Browsing the TOC and some pages from various chapters, it seems far out
of date.  As a piece of history, it supports the need for everything I
have done in my effort to describe how a TMJ iatroepidemic happened and
can still be happening ...

Here's hoping that readers will take a quick look, or a long one, to see
why I have decided to bring it to the "table".

Webby

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