you're notl the only one who is familiar with this cj...

- you seem to have needed to have sniped the balance of the quote [one
with which i am familiar] - and i find that the 'complete' statement
disagrees with the point that you are trying to make:

"The medical system was founded in the 1920s by Rudolf Steiner in
conjunction with Ita Wegman as an extension to conventional medicine
based on the spiritual philosophy Anthroposophy.[1] Conventional medical
treatments, including surgery and medications, are employed as
necessary[2] and anthroposophical physicians must have a conventional
medical education, including a degree from an established and certified
medical school, as well as extensive post-graduate study.[3][4][1]"

well golly gee shucks, not at all what you wish it to be - how droll

"an extension"
"conventional treatments, surgery and medications, are employed as
necessary"
"must have a conventional medical education...post graduate study"

however, when the entire passage is correctly quoted, it doesn't support
your diatribe.

ah well

Well, Herr Oyster, I can understand your rabid fear of Dr. Rudolph
Steiner - as one review of his ideas states:
"Anthroposophical medicine is a holistic and salutogenetic approach to
medicine focusing on strengthening the patient's organism and
individuality. The self-determination, autonomy and dignity of
patients is a central theme;[1] therapies are intended to enhance a
patient's capacities to heal.[2]" (wikipedia)

Self-determination, autonomy and dignity of the patient!  How those
words must strike terror into the controlling minds of those believing
in enforced medicine, controlled by the state, and to be used upon
(against?) its citizens - the perfect way to assert control over other
aspects of their lives and to retain the fiction of a philosophical
basis for that control which is now undergoing fierce revolutionary
threats from the media of the Internet and cell phones - the rise to
technological tools to empower, inform and liberate those who were
SUPPOSED to be obediently docile.

Perhaps a time machine into the past might help you, eh Oyster because
here in the future that is now, all the innuendo in the world is not
going to convince anyone.

But, since your links mentioned Steiner , AND some of his very
interesting writings are available for free download in google book
search, I might as well dip into some of it and read it - thanks for
the links.

Regarding your dismissal of Homeopathy as "utter crap", I see you have
avoided any discussion of the Ennis experiments and of the other
confirmatory scientific evidence.  Not even a mention of the fake BBC
documentary "repetition", either.

Understandable, quite understandable indeed.

Good day.

Citizen Jimserac

Homeopathy is utter crap.

Did you know that the naturopath mafia sells THOUSANDS of "Arzneymittel" where
there is NO proofing for? According to the rules of homeopathy that is fraud.

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_amp.htm

And there is a lot more than just that fraud.

Interesting material about the religiotic background of the anti-vaxxers:

http://www.pharmamafia.com
http://www.pharmamafia.de
http://www.impfkritiker.de
http://wehrhafte.medizin.se

By an incredible coincidence, you appear to BLINDLY accept that
vaccination is of benefit, you seem to ignore the obvious problems and
deaths that occur in a small percentage of the vaccinations, the
vaccinations that "didn't take", the vaccinations on babies
irrespective of possible genetic damage -  and you also have some sort
of near hysterical bigotry and bias against Homeopathy - completely
ignoring the genuine research which has repeatedly indicated that high
dilution solutions with NO REMAINING molecules of the stimulant are
STILL ABLE to cause biological effects - see M. Ennis, Inflammation
Research, vol 53, p181, and NUMEROUS repetitions, most of them
positive.

Regarding Cancer, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, have been expended
over more than 30 years and have indeed made some minor breakthroughs,
particularly in the area of childhood leukemia.
However, it is clear from the nature of the poisonous and immune
system destroying consequences of these "treatments"  AND from the
fact that those unfortunates who were lucky enough to survive the
first "treatment" often chose death rather than a repetition ( the
cancer has "reactivated" and you will need a few more "treatments") of
chemotherapy or radiation is indicative of FUNDAMENTAL AND SYSTEMIC
fallacies both in the nature of these treatments and in the complete
disregard for the long term consequences to the patient - and this
irrespective of the fact, that yes, these radiations and poison
chemicals do indeed kill cancer cells.

Hopefully you advocacy of these kinds of treatments DOES NOT include
violation of an individual's freedom of medical choice, including
state forced vaccinations and court ordered chemotherapy treatments
such as has already happened here.

Criticisms of the standard medical systems and the numerous
associations between government, standard medicine and pharmacy
industry and other special interests that have given rise to this
monodimensional approach have now arisen, like an oncoming tidal wave
and will soon wash away this anti-human scientism in the tsunami of
reforms to come.

YOU are advised to read "The Secret History of the War on Cancer" by
Davis, a recent best seller, to get some perspective on where the
cancer-ists went wrong, and, more importantly, WHY.

Citizen Jimserac

But the best are homeopaths. They do not even understand homeopathy. ;O)

So, do not believ homeopaths. Homeopathy kills.

http://www.kinderaerzteimnetz.de/bvkj/krankheit/show.php3?id=73&nodeid=59
(Hervorhebungen von mir)
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Haemophilus influenzae Typ b (Hib)

Allgemeines

Das Bakterium Haemophilus influenzae Typ b (Hib)
spielt besonders bei Kleinkindern im Alter bis
zu 5 Jahren eine wesentliche Rolle.

Die dadurch ausgelösten Infektionskrankheiten waren
bis zur Einführung der vorbeugenden Impfung für
diese Altersgruppe sehr gefürchtet.

Die Keime verursachen bei Kindern bis zu 3 Jahren
in erster Linie eine besonders schwere Form von
Hirnhautentzündung.

Bei Kindern bis zu 5 Jahren war die Entzündung des
Kehldeckels (Epiglottitis) lebensbedrohlich.
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Vaccination saves lives. Or do you invest in coffins?

Cancer is still a "mystery" disease for the allopath, and why anyone
survives their cut/burn/poison approach is also a mystery.  The
allopath does not know why chemo works as poorly as it does.
Experts in this area report that the correct cure rate for cancer
treated allopathically is 2.1%.  2.1% is hardly 85%.

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons

With Hodgkin's Disease, there is about an 85% chance of survival with
proper treatment. The so-called "natural treatments" that the family is
trying to use not only are not working in this case (the tumors are
getting larger), but, there is no evidence that "natural treatments" work.

The question the court is dealing with is: Does the state have the right
to force treatment on a child with a disease that has a 85% survival
rate when the family wants to do nothing?

In this case, the courts are ruling not to give the kid chemotherapy is
medical neglect.

Jeff