Re: [2009 May] The Quackery of Chemotherapy,
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Re: [2009 May] The Quackery of Chemotherapy,
| Happy Oyster | 27 May 2009 00:23 |
Hi, Peter,
we had some interesting TV reports. The last one in the Netherlands and in Norway.
This is about cancer quacks in the Netherlands:
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=5383
 Signature DIE ERSTE REIMBIBEL SEIT DEM MITTELALTER http://www.reimbibel.de
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| Peter Moran | 26 May 2009 21:50 |
> "Peter Moran" <pmoran@internode.on.net> wrote in message > news:00377b4f$0$9731> It is very difficult to support forcing any child to [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > the child, and give it cancer down the line, while everyone fears it will > return as you haven't treated the cause, only palliated the symptoms Believe these overblown, paranoid fancies if you wish.
The overall five year survival rates for ALL kinds of cancer of ALL stages in advanced countries s now about 60%. The long term permanent disease-free CURE rate would be less, possibly about 50%, since a few cancers can recur even after five years of apparently complete remission or have slow rates of progress, and it is true that a few patients get rare late complications from treatment. I examine some older data on all this at http://www.users.on.net/~pmoran/cancer/cancercure.htm but results have been slowly improving.
Hodgkins disease is a cancer that is extremely sensitive to radiotherapy and chemotherapy. It is among the most curable of cancers despite almost always being inoperable when diagnosed. I supplied a graph showing the long term survival rates with this cancer overall http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/Hodgkin'ssurvival.htm
PM
> idiotic really > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > weed out the weaker species. The Council views the AMA's 'modern medicine' > as barbaric.."-Brice Taylor (Thanks For The Memories p 283) |
| john | 26 May 2009 16:31 |
"Peter Moran" <pmoran@internode.on.net> wrote in message news:00377b4f$0$9731> It is very difficult to support forcing any child to undergo chemotherapy.
> That is an awful prospect and possibly not even feasible, especially > without parental support. . But this is an entirely separate [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > PM bollocks, its fascist medicine http://www.whale.to/cancer/articles.html
50% more like and that is only 5 years, hardly a cure, then you torture the child, and give it cancer down the line, while everyone fears it will return as you haven't treated the cause, only palliated the symptoms
idiotic really
see http://www.whale.to/a/cancer_c.html
"The American Medical Association is fashioned to prescribe drugs and perform various treatments that although they may be unsuspecting, tend to weed out the weaker species. The Council views the AMA's 'modern medicine' as barbaric.."-Brice Taylor (Thanks For The Memories p 283)
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| Peter Moran | 26 May 2009 07:57 |
> http://www.whale.to/a/quack.html It is very difficult to support forcing any child to undergo chemotherapy. That is an awful prospect and possibly not even feasible, especially without parental support. . But this is an entirely separate consideration from what would be best for the child. It is a tragic and difficult situation for all. Know-nothings like Mike Adams do, literally, know nothing, and should not be trying to inflame the situation further. They should at least be quite explicit if they are really prepared to urge the avoidance of chemotherapy at any cost, even that of a painful, slow, early death.
There is no evidence that any "alternative" treatment will produce remission or cure Hodgkins disease but plenty of evidence that chemotherapy can produce prolonged, symptom-free remissions, if not cure.
See http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/Hodgkin'ssurvival.htm showing how survival rates have improved over time. These survival figures refer to "all comers", including more aggressive and advanced cases. This boy had a relatively early stage and would have had an even better outlook, if he had continued treatment once it had started and he was already showing a good response.
PM
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| john | 26 May 2009 05:31 |
http://www.whale.to/a/quack.html
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