The oldest joke on the net is this:
   "It must be true, I read it on the internet."
   When did people start think reading something on the internet was a
reliable source of information? What is everybody, five? Has the world gone
mad?
   And why are your sigs auf Deutsch?
   Afraid to state in plain English that Aquinas called Women a MISTAKE OF
NATURE??? Both of you are f.cking idiots!
   Er ist nicht eine Kirchenlehrer, er ist eine scheiBekopf im Holle...

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090621/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_bloggers_freebie_discl
osures

<quote>
FTC plans to monitor blogs for claims, payments
By DEBORAH YAO, AP Business Writer - Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:02PM EDT

Savvy consumers often go online for independent consumer reviews of
products and services, scouring through comments from everyday Joes and
Janes to help them find a gem or shun a lemon.

What some fail to realize, though, is that such reviews can be tainted:
Many bloggers have accepted perks such as free laptops, trips to Europe,
$500 gift cards or even thousands of dollars for a 200-word post.

___

On the Net:

Proposed guidelines:

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2008/11/P034520endorsementguides.pdf
</quote>

<snip>

Note this line here.

With all inoculations  in the US there is a set of questions asked.
Do you have a fever or suffer from any chronic illness. The reason
that question is asked is people with certain chronic illnesses needs
to be careful of drug interactions, and in some cases the drugs they
take weaken an already compromised system.

"Serious"?

A dentist gave him a flu shot?

They know this was the same by looking at batch numbers?

Wait, one of the people got their shot from their wife a dentist...
didn't they? Who actually gave the shot a nurse or a dentist?

Can anyone else see the problem with this "news report"?

Amazing. of the 140,000 people inoculated, only 4 people died? and 4
of the four already had "serious" or "chronic" health issues?

Really? Then all the shouting is a much to do about nothing, isn't
it.

You need to learn urls in signatures are not advertising.  if you
call them such you are lying.

Since you are the person making the charge. show my in the RFC and
usenet documentation where a URL in a signature is explicitly
classified as advertisements.

JanBOT is to much a hypocrite to point out the all the mercola ULR's
have ads on the displayed pages.

Even References to Google's so-called "archives" have ads.

I put forward that JanBot is a hypocrite
as well as a control freak.

Restored plus studies.

http://www.newstarget.com/z020866.html

NewsTarget.com printable article
Originally published October 24 2006
Four people die after flu vaccination shots
(NewsTarget) Four people died after being injected with the flu vaccine, the
Health Ministry of Israel reported yesterday. Before receiving the flu
inoculations, three of the four individuals were suffering from several
chronic ailments, including heart disease and diabetes. A fourth
recipient -- a 67-year-old man -- suffered from serious heart disease. He
was found dead on a city street a few hours after receiving the flu vaccine
shot from his wife, a dentist.
The flu vaccine in question was made and distributed by the French
pharmaceutical firm Sanofi-Aventis. Sanofi-Aventis markets the vaccine all
over the world, and it was determined that all four deaths occurred in
people who had been inoculated with vaccine from the same series made by the
company.

The Health Ministry of Israel said Sunday that Sanofi-Aventis had been asked
whether unexplained fatalities had been reported in any other country. An
answer to this question was expected Monday, but if no other reports are
uncovered, inoculations will be allowed to continue, according to Israeli
Health Minister Ben-Yizri.

The Israeli Health Ministry has begun looking into possible sources of
contamination -- but so far none have been found in the actual vaccine. At
this time, 140,000 people have been inoculated. The Health Ministry has
started an investigation into the medical team at the Kiryat Gat clinic
where three of the four victims received their flu shots from the same
nurse.

However, the head of the national center for disease monitoring in the
Health Ministry -- Professor Manfred Green -- reassured a cautious public
this past Sunday by stating that there may be a simple statistical
explanation for the four deaths, by saying "About 100 people die every day
in Israel from chronic diseases. These four individuals could be part of
that group."

Yitzhak Berlovitch, deputy director of the Health Ministry, stated that no
cases have ever been documented in Israel of deaths after flu inoculations.
There had not yet been any autopsies performed on the four victims because
"the Health Ministry has no justification for doing so," according to
Berlovitch.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=9017255&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=2198876&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=1677837&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum

Neurochemical hypothesis: participation by aluminum in producing critical
mass of colocalized errors in brain leads to neurological disease.

Joshi JG.

Department of Biochemistry, University of Tennessee, Knoxville 37996-0840.

1. Aluminum is an established neurotoxin. Prolonged exposure to even low
levels of aluminum permit its chelation and subsequent transport to brain
where it is non-uniformly distributed. 2. Available evidence suggests that
(i) aluminum interferes with glucose metabolism by inhibiting hexokinase and
glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase; (ii) it binds to calmodulin and affects
numerous phosphorylation-dephosphorylation reactions; (iii) it binds to
transferrin and ferritin, affects the function of these proteins which in
turn affect iron metabolism. 3. Thus accumulation of aluminum-induced
metabolic errors colocalized in specific areas of the brain may lead to
neurological disorders.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=15202764&query_hl=11&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=11746431&query_hl=11&itool=pubmed_DocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=11470325&query_hl=11&itool=pubmed_DocSum

Posting advertising and lies deleted.

It was explained to you before, mercola is not an authority.

Citing his web page isn't not evidence.

<snip>

Vaccines and Neurological Damage
http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/neurological_damage.htm

Vaccinations are very neurotoxic and have been associated with many
neurological disorders, like encephalopathies, epilepsy, convulsions,
ADD, LD, autism, mental retardation, depression, anxiety, CNS
disorders, paralysis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, nerve deafness,
blindness and SIDS. The neurological disorders associated with
vaccinations are diverse and numerous. Vaccinations lower IQ as well
as contribute to the overt mental disorders and neurological diseases
listed here. The relationship of vaccinations to encephalopathies and
neurological diseases have been surfacing in medical journals since
the advent of mass vaccination programs. Autism was unheard of before
vaccinations, and parallel mass vaccination programs very nicely. ADD
and learning disorders in children are now being traced to childhood
vaccinations, as well as convulsions, paralysis, and epilepsy. Brain
damage is by far the most common adverse reaction associated with
vaccinations, although their actual numbers are not often reported
correctly.

List of Vaccination-induced Neurological disorders:
••••Meningitis Paralysis
•Paralytis polio
•Ms Gullain Barre Syndrome
••Hyperactivity - ADD, LD
•Demyelinization diseases
•Auto-immune Diseases Epilepsy
•Convulsions - Seizures
•••••Mental confusion - lowered IQ
•Brain tumors (SV-40)
This list was generated from a variety of resources and is not, by any
means, all inclusive.

The encephalopathies associated with vaccinations may range from overt
neurological disease to high pitched crying (commonly seen after
vaccination), which is not often recognized as brain damage. In other
words, the child is just "reacting to the needle". It is "normal" to
be afraid of shots. But what they are missing is the diagnosis of
overt neuropathy, encephalitis or brain dysfunction, because high
pitched crying is not normal. Brain damage from vaccines is epidemic
and yet, doctors are slow to diagnose neurological disorders (in US)
when vaccinations are at stake but we see many citations linking
changes (for the worse) after vaccinations are given.

Ted Koren, DC stated, "Dyslexia, minimal brain damage, ADD, autism,
allergies, visual and many other neurologic diseases grouped together
as "developmental disabilities," barely existed before mass
vaccination programs. Probably twenty percent of American children-one
youngster in five-suffers from a 'developmental disability.' This is a
stupefying figure Developmental disabilities" are nearly always
generated by encephalitis. And the primary cause of encephalitis in
the United States and other industrialized countries is the childhood
vaccination program. To be specific, a large proportion of the
millions of U.S. children and adults suffering from autism, seizures,
mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia, and other developmental
disabilities, owe their disorders to one or another of the vaccines
against childhood diseases." [Emphasis mine.]

Some 40-50 years ago children were not vaccinated until they were
ready for the first grade at age 6. Neurological disorders were very
uncommon then. Today, children are vaccinated at birth for HiB and
begin their long vaccination-journey at 2 months of age, before the
blood brain barrier is fully developed. A review of the medical
literature around the world will turn up many articles linking
vaccinations with many neurological disorders. Before the 1940s,
autism was extremely rare or unheard of. Then in the mid-1940s we
began a massive vaccination programs and autism was "born". At first,
it only occurred in the children of wealthy parents, since
vaccinations were not free or government sponsored like today. Later
autism became a disease of all classes (with government-sponsored
vaccine programs). The psychiatrists had a hay-day with autism and at
first they called it the "Refrigerator-Mother Syndrome". They said the
mother had a "cold" heart causing the child to be autistic and
withdrawn. Yet, studies did not support this theory, since many
families had only one autistic child among several normal children.
The point they missed was that it was the Doctor's cold needles that
caused the problem, not the mother's cold heart.

"The strongest link was between measles virus antibodies and anti-MBP,
suggesting that exposure to the measles virus may cause the immune
systems of children with autism to attack myelin," Singh said.
Children with autism produce anti-bodies against their own brain,
making autism an auto-immune condition. "Singh compiled a
nonscientific, anecdotal survey of 88 autistic children whose families
have contacted him. Of those, 51 percent said symptoms of autism began
shortly after the MMR vaccination, and 36 percent said the problems
started days after the DPT shot." Anecdotal evidence over-whelmingly
points to vaccines as causing autism. The connect between autism and
vaccinations can not be denied.

The pertussis vaccine is very neurotoxic and is used in the laboratory
to produce brain lesions in lab animals for study. But if our child
develops brain problems after a DPT vaccination, our doctor will tell
us it is coincidence or genetic. Vaccinations have been known to
increase the demyelination, a process related to many neurologic
diseases and MS is a demyelination disease. Myelin is designed to
protect the outer coating of neurons, much like the plastic outer
coating over an electrical wire. When this myelin is damaged,
neurological disorders, such as, MS, paralysis, or ALS, will result.
(Singh mentioned autism as a result of demyelination disorder.) The
nerves are short-circuited and do not function normally.

The encephalitis form vaccinations is much more prevalent than we
would like to realize, since all vaccines are neurotoxic to begin
with. That one child develops encephalopathies from a vaccine and
another remains "normal" is not the issue. All children are affected,
but some are affected more than others. For example, if a child
develops uncontrolled high pitched crying after a vaccine is given,
that is written off as a normal reaction and is even listed in medical
texts as such. But if that same child has a slower speech development,
slower learning (which is so common today), or slower ability in
walking, who would know. Unvaccinated children walk sooner, talk
sooner, and have a high degree of manual dexterity at an earlier age.
Their minds are not assaulted by the neurotoxins that most "normal"
children receive. Vaccinations cause the brain to swell and that is
"encephalitis", regardless of diagnosis. During the period after
vaccines are given children often lose their soft spot in their
cranium, as the swelling increases. Why would one's brain swell after
vaccines were given? The four points of infection are pain (dolor),
redness (color), fever (rubor) and swelling (tumor). Infections of the
brain might produce these same points too.

http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/neurological_damage.htm

On Jun 22, 3:36 pm, "Stephen Wilson"
<stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

There is ample evdience that genetics plays a major role.

Quite true. More and more these days, one method is staying away from
the anti-vaccination parasites.

That is a scary thought. The way the anti-vaccinationist speak of
their autistic children, I am surprised that more of them do not do
post-birth abortion.

The fact right now is that we don't know what causes autism. However, we do
know what causes mumps, rubella and measles.

We don't know how to prevent a child from being autistic. We do know how to
stop them getting measles, mumps and rubella.

Maybe, in a few years, someone will work out that there are a particular set
of genes that are responsible. If that is the case (and it doesn't seem
unlikely to me), I wonder how many of the people who today blame
vaccinations would have chosen to have their babies aborted if the faulty
gene(s) had been detected in them prior to birth?

Unfortunately courage has no bearing on whether a belief is right or
not. The Nazi military were just as courageous as those of the Allies,
suicide bombers are "brave" enough to sacrifice their lives for their
beliefs, as were those who flew the planes into the World Trade
Center.

My "personal experience" objection is that as a late diagnosed
autistic (dx at age 52), and knowing others in similar circumstances,
I know that at least part of the "epidemic" is false - People with so
called "higher functioning" autism were simply not recognised, and now
they are.

[I would also note that I suffered from, but fortunately survived
largely unscathed, measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, and had a
friend at school who survived but had long term damage from polio.]

The previous poster rightly notes that there have been previous false
"causes" of autism such as the "Refrigerator Mother" theory - But
fails to go on and apply the same logic to his? own theories.

Their resorting to emotive language such as "the Doctor's cold
needles" is suggestive of an argument which doesn't stand up well on
its' own merits alone.

Is that really the case, or does it just feel like that to people who
live there? - A quick look at the WHO / UNICEF numbers suggests that
may not be the situation (caveat, I haven't done any detailed
number-crunching). And since they're trying to promote "western"
standards of vaccination worldwide, it seems unlikely that they would
underreport.

Except that nature doesn't wait on our convenience - The numbers vary,
but about 1 in every 3 children dying *in their first year* seems to
be the average for 19th century Britain.

(Of course we have the advantage of piped water and sewage systems,
but there are a lot of non-waterborne diseases too).

[And for those who espouse an inflammatory model of autism, I wonder
about the inflammatory effects of chronic infections and parasites?]

Well done! Be prepared for an attack for being so brave.  I only have
one objection, and I'm not worried about the attacks to come, because
I've already been attacked on here for this very statement...  "In MY
son's case" I KNOW that vaccines were not the cause of his ASD
because... (shame on me) he has never been vaccinated. That is not to
say I don't believe  that it may play a significant part in someone
elses case.

Children in the US are bombarded at a much younger age and with a
higher number of vaccines than children in any other country in the
world!  I think it would be wiser and safer if they were given later
in childhood and not so many viruses in each shot.  I've also read
somewhere(when I find the site I'll post a link)that in certain
countries they pasteurize or heat the vaccines in the making of them,
which would help get rid of the contaminates that might be in them
which adds a level of safety.  If the US has started doing this as
well, I would love to know about it.  As of today, I have not found
anything online that says they do.

Keep up the good research and thank you for sharing this information.

http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/neurological_damage.htm

Vaccines and Neurological Damage

Vaccinations are very neurotoxic and have been associated with many
neurological disorders, like encephalopathies, epilepsy, convulsions,
ADD, LD, autism, mental retardation, depression, anxiety, CNS
disorders, paralysis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, nerve deafness,
blindness and SIDS. The neurological disorders associated with
vaccinations are diverse and numerous. Vaccinations lower IQ as well
as contribute to the overt mental disorders and neurological diseases
listed here. The relationship of vaccinations to encephalopathies and
neurological diseases have been surfacing in medical journals since
the advent of mass vaccination programs. Autism was unheard of before
vaccinations, and parallel mass vaccination programs very nicely. ADD
and learning disorders in children are now being traced to childhood
vaccinations, as well as convulsions, paralysis, and epilepsy. Brain
damage is by far the most common adverse reaction associated with
vaccinations, although their actual numbers are not often reported
correctly.

List of Vaccination-induced Neurological disorders:
••••Meningitis Paralysis
•Paralytis polio
•Ms Gullain Barre Syndrome
••Hyperactivity - ADD, LD
•Demyelinization diseases
•Auto-immune Diseases Epilepsy
•Convulsions - Seizures
•••••Mental confusion - lowered IQ
•Brain tumors (SV-40)
This list was generated from a variety of resources and is not, by any
means, all inclusive.

The encephalopathies associated with vaccinations may range from overt
neurological disease to high pitched crying (commonly seen after
vaccination), which is not often recognized as brain damage. In other
words, the child is just "reacting to the needle". It is "normal" to
be afraid of shots. But what they are missing is the diagnosis of
overt neuropathy, encephalitis or brain dysfunction, because high
pitched crying is not normal. Brain damage from vaccines is epidemic
and yet, doctors are slow to diagnose neurological disorders (in US)
when vaccinations are at stake but we see many citations linking
changes (for the worse) after vaccinations are given.

Ted Koren, DC stated, "Dyslexia, minimal brain damage, ADD, autism,
allergies, visual and many other neurologic diseases grouped together
as "developmental disabilities," barely existed before mass
vaccination programs. Probably twenty percent of American children-one
youngster in five-suffers from a 'developmental disability.' This is a
stupefying figure Developmental disabilities" are nearly always
generated by encephalitis. And the primary cause of encephalitis in
the United States and other industrialized countries is the childhood
vaccination program. To be specific, a large proportion of the
millions of U.S. children and adults suffering from autism, seizures,
mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia, and other developmental
disabilities, owe their disorders to one or another of the vaccines
against childhood diseases." [Emphasis mine.]

Some 40-50 years ago children were not vaccinated until they were
ready for the first grade at age 6. Neurological disorders were very
uncommon then. Today, children are vaccinated at birth for HiB and
begin their long vaccination-journey at 2 months of age, before the
blood brain barrier is fully developed. A review of the medical
literature around the world will turn up many articles linking
vaccinations with many neurological disorders. Before the 1940s,
autism was extremely rare or unheard of. Then in the mid-1940s we
began a massive vaccination programs and autism was "born". At first,
it only occurred in the children of wealthy parents, since
vaccinations were not free or government sponsored like today. Later
autism became a disease of all classes (with government-sponsored
vaccine programs). The psychiatrists had a hay-day with autism and at
first they called it the "Refrigerator-Mother Syndrome". They said the
mother had a "cold" heart causing the child to be autistic and
withdrawn. Yet, studies did not support this theory, since many
families had only one autistic child among several normal children.
The point they missed was that it was the Doctor's cold needles that
caused the problem, not the mother's cold heart.

"The strongest link was between measles virus antibodies and anti-MBP,
suggesting that exposure to the measles virus may cause the immune
systems of children with autism to attack myelin," Singh said.
Children with autism produce anti-bodies against their own brain,
making autism an auto-immune condition. "Singh compiled a
nonscientific, anecdotal survey of 88 autistic children whose families
have contacted him. Of those, 51 percent said symptoms of autism began
shortly after the MMR vaccination, and 36 percent said the problems
started days after the DPT shot." Anecdotal evidence over-whelmingly
points to vaccines as causing autism. The connect between autism and
vaccinations can not be denied.

The pertussis vaccine is very neurotoxic and is used in the laboratory
to produce brain lesions in lab animals for study. But if our child
develops brain problems after a DPT vaccination, our doctor will tell
us it is coincidence or genetic. Vaccinations have been known to
increase the demyelination, a process related to many neurologic
diseases and MS is a demyelination disease. Myelin is designed to
protect the outer coating of neurons, much like the plastic outer
coating over an electrical wire. When this myelin is damaged,
neurological disorders, such as, MS, paralysis, or ALS, will result.
(Singh mentioned autism as a result of demyelination disorder.) The
nerves are short-circuited and do not function normally.

The encephalitis form vaccinations is much more prevalent than we
would like to realize, since all vaccines are neurotoxic to begin
with. That one child develops encephalopathies from a vaccine and
another remains "normal" is not the issue. All children are affected,
but some are affected more than others. For example, if a child
develops uncontrolled high pitched crying after a vaccine is given,
that is written off as a normal reaction and is even listed in medical
texts as such. But if that same child has a slower speech development,
slower learning (which is so common today), or slower ability in
walking, who would know. Unvaccinated children walk sooner, talk
sooner, and have a high degree of manual dexterity at an earlier age.
Their minds are not assaulted by the neurotoxins that most "normal"
children receive. Vaccinations cause the brain to swell and that is
"encephalitis", regardless of diagnosis. During the period after
vaccines are given children often lose their soft spot in their
cranium, as the swelling increases. Why would one's brain swell after
vaccines were given? The four points of infection are pain (dolor),
redness (color), fever (rubor) and swelling (tumor). Infections of the
brain might produce these same points too.