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Medical Forum / General / Vision / March 2008The Bates Method: a very useful summary
OK this review is a bit dated (1956)but it gives a good account in a scientific manner, so even the "idiots" can follow it! http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/bates.html Rishi, I await your comments with "batesed" breath! Winston > OK this review is a bit dated (1956)but it gives a good account in a > scientific manner, so even the "idiots" can follow it! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Winston Please, this topic has already been very much discussed in the past, search for archives. I invite you to visit www.sistemabates.it and get a translation from Google or something. Then I invite you to by my published books of Bates, see link here Please visit http://www.stores.ebay.it/juppiterconsultingrishi and you can buy a replica of the Original Dr. Bates book "Perfect Sight Without Glasses" and if you are interested, join the group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/ > Please, this topic has already been very much discussed in the past, > search for archives. No kidding. Isn't spamming of newsgroups with adverts for commercial services still considered very poor netiquette? > Then I invite you to by my published books of Bates, see link here > Please visit [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and if you are interested, join the group > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/ >>Please, this topic has already been very much discussed in the past, >>search for archives. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Isn't spamming of newsgroups with adverts for commercial services > still considered very poor netiquette? I offer you to understand better your vision system and you talk me about netiquette? Don't you feel a little bit stupid?  SignaturePlease visit http://www.stores.ebay.it/juppiterconsultingrishi and you can buy a replica of the Original Dr. Bates book "Perfect Sight Without Glasses" and if you are interested, join the group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/ > I offer you to understand better your vision system and you talk me > about netiquette? > > Don't you feel a little bit stupid? No. Because you didn't "offer me to" anything, you're trying to sell your commercial product. Sod off and find an advertising agency. >>I offer you to understand better your vision system and you talk me >>about netiquette? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > No. Because you didn't "offer me to" anything, you're trying to sell > your commercial product. Sod off and find an advertising agency. By the way, in the website of the Idiot David, which is www.iblindness.org (I is for Idiot) you can download a OCR HTML copy of the book I sell, so the problem is not commercial, but of intelligence. SignaturePlease visit http://www.stores.ebay.it/juppiterconsultingrishi and you can buy a replica of the Original Dr. Bates book "Perfect Sight Without Glasses" and if you are interested, join the group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/ > By the way, in the website of the Idiot David, which is > www.iblindness.org (I is for Idiot) you can download a OCR HTML copy of > the book I sell, so the problem is not commercial, but of intelligence. Thanks for that link actually Rishi. I'll read that first definately, and that is a promise, before I decide to believe Bates, You, or even bother to buy the book. Cya Simon > Thanks for that link actually Rishi. I'll read that first definately, > and that is a promise, before I decide to believe Bates, You, or even > bother to buy the book. Please, don't decide anything, just let things happen. Discard glasses for a while and wait and see. SignaturePlease visit http://www.stores.ebay.it/juppiterconsultingrishi and you can buy a replica of the Original Dr. Bates book "Perfect Sight Without Glasses" and if you are interested, join the group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/ >> Thanks for that link actually Rishi. I'll read that first definately, >> and that is a promise, before I decide to believe Bates, You, or even >> bother to buy the book. > > Please, don't decide anything, just let things happen. > Discard glasses for a while and wait and see. You obviously suffer from a lot of mental strain Rishi. I can see how this book might be of help to you in helping to relieve that. Since I dont know how many times I must mention it, I dont wear glasses, I dont wear contacts, I havent had surgery, I havent read the book, I have 20/20 vision. But I shall read the book. See what it says, investigate its usefulness and research it, and in those acts, shall I have decided as to its usefulness. Cya Simon > wear contacts, I havent had surgery, I havent read the book, I have > 20/20 vision. Ah, sorry, You were the idiot that having 20/20 was looking for some glasses... I forgot! >> wear contacts, I havent had surgery, I havent read the book, I have >> 20/20 vision. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I forgot! Yes, you were the idiot who forgot and who thought I was looking for glasses. No, I was the person (not the idiot - learn that Rishi, you might gain more sales if you treat people with a little more respect), I was the person who had a slight problem with eye strain and would like to find out what that problem is. Hence the idea of going to an optometrist, or the doctor, since I heard that apparently high blood sugar can lead to a blurry vision problem. But without finding out what the problem is, it cannot be treated. But Im not saying what course of action to take for treatment, however you got confused about that. You think its foolish of me to find out the cause of my slight eye strain, whatever that might be. I do not think its foolish because there are some serious problems that blurry vision/problems focusing can be symptom of. Cya Simon > Yes, you were the idiot who forgot and who thought I was looking for > glasses. No, I was the person (not the idiot - learn that Rishi, you > might gain more sales if you treat people with a little more respect), I > was the person who had a slight problem with eye strain and would like > to find out what that problem is. Sales depend on product not on other things, except marketing. I agree. But now, what if the book I am here to disseminate in a hardcopy way REALLY helps you? What will be your attitude toward me? Do you think it will change? Because, if the things I say are really the truth, what will happen? > Hence the idea of going to an optometrist, or the doctor, since I heard These ideas are quite wrong, because you have to find one single optometrist able to help people. There are none. Also for doctors: they do not know what are they doing, except for very very rare individuals who function out of intuition, not of so-called science. > that apparently high blood sugar can lead to a blurry vision problem. Any excuses are right. But what if they put glasses on you? > But without finding out what the problem is, it cannot be treated. But > Im not saying what course of action to take for treatment, however you > got confused about that. You think its foolish of me to find out the > cause of my slight eye strain, whatever that might be. I do not think > its foolish because there are some serious problems that blurry > vision/problems focusing can be symptom of. You were the idiot that practice "concentrating", now I remember. Now I remember the stupid things you did. Now I understand from what your eyestrain comes from. > Isn't spamming of newsgroups with adverts for commercial services > still considered very poor netiquette? The commercials aren't the most offensive aspect. It's more annoying to be lectured from ignorance. We are repeatedly told all our textbooks are wrong, by someone who's never read one. This individual couldn't pass a 9th-grade quiz on anatomy or physiology. But it's heinous to jump on innocent new posters and blame them for their problems, calling them "stupid" in an attempt to persuade us that the book he sells is the "one true way". The only bright side is knowing his abusive and fallacious arguments HURT his book sales. -MT >>Isn't spamming of newsgroups with adverts for commercial services >>still considered very poor netiquette? > > The commercials aren't the most offensive aspect. It's just culture promoting! > It's more annoying to be lectured from ignorance. We are repeatedly told all our > textbooks are wrong, by someone who's never read one. This individual couldn't > pass a 9th-grade quiz on anatomy or physiology. Excuse me: are you able to cure presbyopia? Are you able to cure any disease of the eyes? The answers are easy: no, no. You are unable to do anything good for the patient. patients are so desperate that resort to such tortures as contact lenses and surgical dramas like lasik lasek prk... You name all. > But it's heinous to jump on innocent new posters and blame them for their > problems, calling them "stupid" in an attempt to persuade us that the book he > sells is the "one true way". I maybe wrong in saying "one true way". But is absolutely TRUE tha YOUR WAYS are COMPLETELY OF NO BENEFIT to the patient. > The only bright side is knowing his abusive and fallacious arguments HURT his > book sales. I have to hurt so that those who are intelligent but sleeping may wake up and see with their own eyes what is the truth. But, people who wear glasses are already deeply hurt. Those who undergone laser are SO MUCH HURT that what I say will pass away and they will remain untouched. such is the trauma they have experienced that I think my "abuse" is really nothing. Ask to any patient if they are happy with their glasses. they will answer "no, but the doctor said...". What is really strange is that you being a glasses prescriptor... What can I expect from you? You will never accept any second or third opinion! You are well protected by your own beliefs, you are not scientific at all. Again I repeat: the truth about vision is at hand. There is not much to do to recognize it, just a little bit of patience and the willingness to discard glasse for few hours and let the eye rest a little bit practicing mental trick anybody can learn. A scientific mind should be interested in these facts. An idiotic mind won't. SignaturePlease visit http://www.stores.ebay.it/juppiterconsultingrishi and you can buy a replica of the Original Dr. Bates book "Perfect Sight Without Glasses" and if you are interested, join the group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/
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