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Alrex long term

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Chuck - 26 Jun 2009 01:49 GMT
Can anyone comment on the safety of using Alrex long term?  My doc has
started me on it for mild (but annoying) dry eye. The idea was to use
it twice per day for a month, then if things are good, taper down to
once or twice per week indefinitely.  If things aren't all better, we
could then go on to Restasis.  I'm finding conflicting information
on-line regarding the risk of cataracts from Alrex long term, but maybe
twice weekly usage is no problem? I'm assuming the initial month is no
issue.
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Neil Brooks - 26 Jun 2009 02:29 GMT
> Can anyone comment on the safety of using Alrex long term?  My doc has
> started me on it for mild (but annoying) dry eye. The idea was to use
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> issue.
> --

It's preserved with Benzalkonium Chloride ("BAK")

BAK is horrible for eyes, cytotoxic to corneas (kills off the healthy
cells), and CAUSES dry eyes in people with otherwise healthy eyes.

For people WITH dry eyes ... you may as well use Drano, instead.

Avoid BAK whenever and wherever possible.
Mike Tyner - 26 Jun 2009 04:28 GMT
One of the selling points of loteprednol is reduced penetration compared to
other steroids. They tell me that makes it least likely to cause cataracts
and glaucoma.

Also you're using the milder preparation; I prescribe Lotemax fairly often
without worrying about cataracts.

But what do you mean by "long term?" Topical steroids are often used before
Restasis, and often continued for 2-3 weeks after starting Restasis. But I
don't know many docs recommending long-term steroids as a treatment for dry
eye.

If long-term steroids were called for, Alrex is the one I'd want.

-MT

> Can anyone comment on the safety of using Alrex long term?  My doc has
> started me on it for mild (but annoying) dry eye. The idea was to use
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> twice weekly usage is no problem? I'm assuming the initial month is no
> issue.
Chuck - 26 Jun 2009 04:45 GMT
I was told if I had significant improvement he'd recommend using it
once or twice per week indefinitely ("forever"), in lieu of restasis.
I'm just the patient, so I don't know whether this is actually a good
idea.

Is restasis preferable for long term use?  The thing he told me that
I'd never read or heard before is that restasis causes permanent
changes if it works and you eventually taper down and stop taking it.
Like it fixes you permanently. Is this right?

Regarding BAK, I don't know what to think about it.  I know people over
at Dry Eye Talk forum are always concerned about it, but why would
these companies continue to use it if it amounted to poison for the
eyes?

> One of the selling points of loteprednol is reduced penetration
> compared to other steroids. They tell me that makes it least likely
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> > initial month is no issue.
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Neil Brooks - 26 Jun 2009 04:54 GMT
> Regarding BAK, I don't know what to think about it.  I know people over
> at Dry Eye Talk forum are always concerned about it, but why would
> these companies continue to use it if it amounted to poison for the
> eyes?

It's cheap, readily available, already FDA approved, and DOES do a
nice job of killing bugs that can spoil/taint ophthalmic drops.

I tried to petition the FDA to re-visit their approval of BAK.  What
they sent me amounted to a ~200 page application for review that
needed to be filled out before they would look at it.

They won.  I threw it away.

If you do the research (PubMed, for example), you'll find LOTS of
studies that confirm my comments, though.

It's evil.  I would only use it short-term, and ONLY IF there were no
alternative (eg, an antibiotic drop).
 
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