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Acuvue Oasys for Presbyopia
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MS - 07 Apr 2009 00:36 GMT I guess they are the second silicon hydrogel multifocal lens out now, besides the Purevision Multifocal. (I'm surprised there aren't more.) (Also--funny long name. Why not just Oasys Multifocal?)
Anyhow, has anyone tried these yet, either as patient or prescribing eye doctor? What have the results been? How do they compare with the PV MFs?
Ed - 07 Apr 2009 02:47 GMT > I guess they are the second silicon hydrogel multifocal lens out now, > besides the Purevision Multifocal. (I'm surprised there aren't more.) > (Also--funny long name. Why not just Oasys Multifocal?) > > Anyhow, has anyone tried these yet, either as patient or prescribing eye > doctor? What have the results been? How do they compare with the PV MFs? I tried them about a month ago. I wasn't happy at all. The vision wasn't sharp in any range (close, intermediate or far), which is sad, because I love the comfort of Oasys. I went back to Purevision, but after a couple weeks, I found it better to just use a distance- corrected lens in my left eye, and a bare right eye (my closeup vision is excellent in my right eye). So, I went back to monovision, but with only a single lens this time around.
Ed
mpace99@rogers.com - 08 Apr 2009 14:06 GMT > I guess they are the second silicon hydrogel multifocal lens out now, > besides the Purevision Multifocal. (I'm surprised there aren't more.) > (Also--funny long name. Why not just Oasys Multifocal?) > > Anyhow, has anyone tried these yet, either as patient or prescribing eye > doctor? What have the results been? How do they compare with the PV MFs? They are just new out in Canada.
Targeted so far to "emerging presbyopes", myopes only with little to no astigmatism and adds under +1.50
Judy
MS - 09 Apr 2009 22:41 GMT Targeted so far to "emerging presbyopes", myopes only with little to no astigmatism and adds under +1.50
Judy
Ayyy--
Are any of the soft multifocals geared towards "far-gone" ("long-emerged"?;-) ) presbyopes?
I once tried the PV MFs, and wasn't very happy with them. I hoped these would work better.
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By the way, at what age does presbyopia usually stop progressing? Or, does it keep getting worse through the rest of one's life, or until one has cataract surgery? I am 56, and it seems like the presbyopia keeps getting worse.
Dan Abel - 10 Apr 2009 00:22 GMT > By the way, at what age does presbyopia usually stop progressing? Or, does > it keep getting worse through the rest of one's life, or until one has > cataract surgery? I am 56, and it seems like the presbyopia keeps getting > worse. I'm no professional, but it seems logical to me that there is a point where presbyopia can't get any worse, namely when the little lens is unable to function at all to focus. At that point, focusing is solely dependent on depth of field, leaving out the effect of whatever you have in front of your eye (contacts or glasses, whether single vision, multifocal, bifocal, trifocal, etc).
As far as presbyopia and cataract go, although they both affect the little lens, I see them as separate. I believe my cataract developed to where it had to be fixed, before my presbyopia was fully developed.
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MS - 11 Apr 2009 22:17 GMT > As far as presbyopia and cataract go, although they both affect the > little lens, I see them as separate. Sorry if I was unclear. I in no way meant to imply a connection between presbyopia and cataract. AFAIK, no relation at all.
What I meant by asking-- "does presbyopia keep getting worse for one's entire life, or until one gets cataract surgery, is that it seems like everyone at some time in their life, if they live long enough, will need cataract surgery. Of course that puts an end to presbyopia, since one then sees through artificial lenses.
I didn't imply any connection between the two conditions though, although they both happen in older age.
Mike Tyner - 10 Apr 2009 01:42 GMT > Are any of the soft multifocals geared towards "far-gone" > ("long-emerged"?;-) ) presbyopes? > > I once tried the PV MFs, and wasn't very happy with them. I hoped these > would work better. None of them work well for everyone.
It's a limit dictated by physics. The only way to focus _simultaneously_ far and near is to deliver clear rays _and_ blurry rays to the retina. That leaves the wearer's brain to sort out the clear image from the "fog." Every simultaneous bifocal option induces some degree of fog. Some people do better at sorting it out. One company's lens may rearrange the fog more to your liking than another, so try several before giving up.
For us "far-gones" MOST of them work pretty good if you design the lenses as "far and intermediate," rather than "far and near".
With that same limitation, monovision can work just as well, but cheaper, easier and more flexible.
Either way, with a pair of +125 reading glasses can "boost" intermediate contacts and get excellent near vision when you need it. "Intermediate" correction is surprisingly adequate for outdoors, or a monitor at 30".
> By the way, at what age does presbyopia usually stop progressing? Or, does > it keep getting worse through the rest of one's life, or until one has > cataract surgery? I am 56, and it seems like the presbyopia keeps getting > worse Along about age 50 or 52, the human lens reaches a point where it isn't flexible enough to contribute significant accommodation.
You might indeed experience further decrease in your near vision after 50-52, but usually it's accompanied by a measurable change in your _far_ prescription, technically an increase in hyperopia, not presbyopia.
After 50-52, statistically you'd expect a slow hyperopic shift, or no change, until perhaps 65.
Beyond that point, the lens degrades in a predictable fashion, creating multiple images and myopic shifts, finally getting opaque enough to label "cataract".
Cataract is one of those problems you hope to have, cause it means heart disease and cancer haven't killed you yet.
No specific treatment is recommended to slow or prevent these natural changes. Ordinary antioxidants and vitamins are the only recommendation most doctors will make.
Ultraviolet does promote cataract, but not to an alarming degree. Farmers get somewhat more cataracts than bookkeepers, so wear sunglasses and hats with brims.
Airline pilots get the more cataracts than farmers, meaning UV isn't as damaging as x-rays.
-MT
MS - 11 Apr 2009 22:22 GMT Thanks for all the info, Mike.
As I wrote though, my presbyopia seems to keep getting worse, although I'm 56.
I have never been diagnosed with hyperopia. In fact, I have been very myopic since childhood.
Right now I am wearing monovision contacts, with a very undercorrected left eye, for near work. Yet, I still find I have to wear reading glasses over them more and more.
>> Are any of the soft multifocals geared towards "far-gone" >> ("long-emerged"?;-) ) presbyopes? [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > -MT Mike Tyner - 12 Apr 2009 02:22 GMT > I have never been diagnosed with hyperopia. In fact, I have been very > myopic since childhood. In a myopic individual, hyperopic shifts manifest as decreased myopia.
-MT
> Right now I am wearing monovision contacts, with a very undercorrected > left eye, for near work. Yet, I still find I have to wear reading glasses [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >> >> -MT The Real Bev - 12 Apr 2009 06:38 GMT >> I have never been diagnosed with hyperopia. In fact, I have been very >> myopic since childhood. > > In a myopic individual, hyperopic shifts manifest as decreased myopia. I'm hyperopic. My ophthalmologist said I had become less so in the last year (suddenly I can use old distance glasses for computer glasses) because cataracts also cause the lens to swell, increasing myopia. I'd never heard that before. She can see my cataracts, but I can't tell any difference.
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Mike Tyner - 12 Apr 2009 14:48 GMT That's pretty typical. It could be swelling; I've also heard it's increased refractive index. But whatever the mechanism, changes after 65 are more likely to be myopic than hyperopic.
-MT
>>> I have never been diagnosed with hyperopia. In fact, I have been very >>> myopic since childhood. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > never heard that before. She can see my cataracts, but I can't tell any > difference. homeseller2001 - 15 Apr 2009 03:33 GMT I have been wearing the Oasys for Presbyopia for a month now and I love them. I was wearing Pure Vision Multi-focal and they tended to get stiffer as the month wore on. I can't even feel the Oasys in my eye, they are much thinner and so comfortable. I am just having trouble finding anyone who carries them on line to purchase more...most sites say "coming soon".
>I guess they are the second silicon hydrogel multifocal lens out now, >besides the Purevision Multifocal. (I'm surprised there aren't more.) >(Also--funny long name. Why not just Oasys Multifocal?) > >Anyhow, has anyone tried these yet, either as patient or prescribing eye >doctor? What have the results been? How do they compare with the PV MFs?
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