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jack - 15 Nov 2008 00:35 GMT
Today I realized that what was look at wasn't clear.  My distance visions
seemed fine, but close up I had a blurry spot in the middle.  It was the
same with either eye closed.  In fact, I still had it when I closed both
eyes; though it seemed like a tiny stained glass window.
I laid down and closed my eyes; the disturbence got bigger and less
distinct.  After about a half hour it just went away.

It happened exactly the same about 2 months ago.

Before that it happened about 6 times eight years ago.  My internist didn't
have a clue, but told me to keep a diary to see if it was related to any
food or activity; but they stopped before I could get much data.

I had several migraine headaches 40 years ago, and it seems a little like
that, only without the headache.

Any comments would be appreciated.
Salmon Egg - 15 Nov 2008 01:50 GMT
> Today I realized that what was look at wasn't clear.  My distance visions
> seemed fine, but close up I had a blurry spot in the middle.  It was the
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>
> Any comments would be appreciated.

Although I am not a health professional, I think that you are having
signs of ocular migraine. You can look that up on the internet. For
peace of mind, you should see an ophthalmologist, preferably a
neuro-ophthalmologist. If you take my opinion as definitive, you are
crazier than I am. :=)

Bill

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Mike Tyner - 15 Nov 2008 02:59 GMT
> Although I am not a health professional, I think that you are having
> signs of ocular migraine. You can look that up on the internet. For
> peace of mind, you should see an ophthalmologist, preferably a
> neuro-ophthalmologist.

Who has much better things to do. The description matches ophthalmic
migraine and the differential list is very short.

-MT
jack - 15 Nov 2008 05:27 GMT
>> Although I am not a health professional, I think that you are having
>> signs of ocular migraine. You can look that up on the internet. For
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> Who has much better things to do. The description matches ophthalmic
> migraine and the differential list is very short.

I read several websites on it and it seems point on.  There is no eye pain,
double vision, or anything but the blurry spot.  And the blurry spot gets
bigger and goes away in 30 minutes.
And it started while the stock market was dropping like a stone.
That, plus my history of migraines, probably cinch it.
Thanks; I can live with it once a year.
Salmon Egg - 15 Nov 2008 06:09 GMT
> I read several websites on it and it seems point on.  There is no eye pain,
> double vision, or anything but the blurry spot.  And the blurry spot gets
> bigger and goes away in 30 minutes.
> And it started while the stock market was dropping like a stone.
> That, plus my history of migraines, probably cinch it.
> Thanks; I can live with it once a year.

For me, the aura took on many forms. They ranged from tiny black dots to
long broad arcs of shimmering striations. Because I worked with lasers,
I was concerned that I had zapped myself. One night while driving, I had
to pull over because I could not see well enough to drive. At that time,
I had no idea of what was happening.

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The Real Bev - 16 Nov 2008 01:28 GMT
>> "Mike Tyner" <mtyner@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>
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>> history of migraines, probably cinch it. Thanks; I can live with it
>> once a year.

I've had maybe 6 in 20 years, roughly 15 minutes each.  Mine look like
polarized crystal patterns -- very pretty unless I happen to be driving
at the time  :-(

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jack - 16 Nov 2008 02:48 GMT
> I've had maybe 6 in 20 years, roughly 15 minutes each.  Mine look like
> polarized crystal patterns -- very pretty unless I happen to be driving
> at the time  :-(

That's exactly what it looks like, polarized crystal patterns!
Eight years ago I had to sit in a library for 20 minutes with my eyes closed
before I could drive home.
Mike Tyner - 16 Nov 2008 02:26 GMT
Migraine most often affects both eyes, but it's the same side in each eye,
so it's often described as "blind in one eye" which it isn't.

-MT

> I read several websites on it and it seems point on.  There is no eye
> pain, double vision, or anything but the blurry spot.  And the blurry spot
> gets bigger and goes away in 30 minutes.
> And it started while the stock market was dropping like a stone.
> That, plus my history of migraines, probably cinch it.
> Thanks; I can live with it once a year.
ShadowTek - 15 Nov 2008 03:22 GMT
> Although I am not a health professional, I think that you are having
> signs of ocular migraine. You can look that up on the internet. For
> peace of mind, you should see an ophthalmologist, preferably a
> neuro-ophthalmologist. If you take my opinion as definitive, you are
> crazier than I am. :=)

My dad often goes completely blind in one eye when he gets a migrane.
Salmon Egg - 15 Nov 2008 06:03 GMT
> My dad often goes completely blind in one eye when he gets a migrane.

The way I understand it is that this visual disturbance is outside the
eye and arises from the optic nerve. In my situation, it appeared to be
in both eyes. It would be unusual for a visual loss like that to appear
simultaneously and independently in both eyes.

I never had a headache in association with this ocular migraine. I do
not know if ordinary migraines are related to the ocular migraine other
than that both produce auras.

Bill

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