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Medical Forum / General / Vision / July 2008Does not wearing my glasses damage my eyes?
I'm a 17 year old female, about a year ago I got contacts when my glasses prescription went up to -1.75. I really love contacts but was told only to wear them 5 days in a week. At home I can go without my glasses if I don't want to watch tv but my mum is pestering me now to wear them when I'm at home because she says I am straining my eyes. At home I just put them on when I want to see something but am I doing my eyes some harm, is my mum right? Dear Mandi, No one can say! You will have credible experts who will say avoid them except when absolutely necessary. And the next expert will tell you to "...wear them all the time". The choice must be yours alone to make. > I'm a 17 year old female, about a year ago I got contacts when my glasses > prescription went up to -1.75. I really love contacts but was told only to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Message posted viahttp://www.medkb.com > I'm a 17 year old female, about a year ago I got contacts when my glasses > prescription went up to -1.75. I really love contacts but was told only to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Message posted viahttp://www.medkb.com one thing you need to know right off is that the person named "Otis Brown" who first replied to your question has absolutely no credentials or training or experience to give advise. just ignor what he posts. despite public embarrassment on this newsgroup, as well as complaints to authorities in the state that he lives, he persists in thrusting his spurious advise on people. to address your question, the current state of scientific research says that, for persons with normally-developed visual systems (i.e. the ability to see 20/20 with the proper lenses, and with normal binocular vision), the use of corrective lenses is only necessary if and when you want to use them. that is to say they have no long term effect, positive or negative, on your vision in the future. they simply help you to see better when they are on. i believe you were most likely cautioned to wear your contacts only 5 days per week so as to prevent damaging the surface of your eye by over-wearing them. some people who wear contacts develop a nasty habit of wearing them all the time and never removing them from their eyes-- which can lead to unhealthy consequences. most likely your doctor is trying to get you to develop reasonable habits. when you are not wearing your contacts, you can wear your glasses if you wish, or wear nothing if you wish as well. its up to you. either way you won't be hurting yourself. cheers, RM, PhD OD (vs. Otis Brown, misinformed zealot) Short answer, no, not wearing them wiil not hurt your eyes. Definitely not... If your mum keeps pestering you tell her to STFU and do some research. Well in a more polite way than that. And by the way, read a book called 'The Cure of Imperfect Sight'. And the current state of "scientific research" SUCKS! Medical doctor Bates was centuries ahead of his time and remains so! Examining anyone who wears glasses, before they put them on and 2 weeks after, and they can see clearly their eyesight got worse. > Definitely not... > > Examining anyone > who wears glasses, before they put them on and 2 weeks after, and they > can see clearly their eyesight got worse. really? I can say that I have NEVER seen anyone's prescription worsen within 2 weeks of wearing their glasses. and I'm an eye doctor who has practiced for years and you are just a kid who doesn't even know how to measure refractive error. humm. I wonder who is right? Thanks, RM for the clarification. > cheers, > > RM, PhD OD (P.Clarkii) On Jun 22, 6:09 pm, p.clar...@gmail.com wrote: > > I'm a 17 year old female, about a year ago I got contacts when my glasses > > prescription went up to -1.75. I really love contacts but was told only to [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > (vs. Otis Brown, misinformed zealot) pclarkii writes: > > one thing you need to know right off is that the person named "Otis > > Brown" who first replied to your question has absolutely no > > credentials or training or experience to give advise. just ignor what > > he posts. despite public embarrassment on this newsgroup, as well as > > complaints to authorities in the state that he lives, he persists in > > thrusting his spurious advise on people. [snip] > > cheers, > > > RM, PhD OD > > > (vs. Otis Brown, misinformed zealot) To which Otis Brown replies: > Thanks, RM for the clarification. Wow. Otis: the truth really IS stranger than fiction. Nobody could conjure believable stories about what a fool you are that wouldn't pale in comparison to your own words and deeds. Bravo! On Jul 2, 4:22 pm, otisbr...@embarqmail.com wrote: > Thanks, RM for the clarification. > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > > (vs. Otis Brown, misinformed zealot) is this supposed to elicit some kind of reaction from me? check out the big brain on Otis. He knows how to use internet search engines! test That's strange. I can post in this thread but an error occurs when I try and post to the other thread. Google needs to get their Groups services sorted! test lol ┏┫ ｜ ｜ ┣┓ ┏┓ ┗┫━━ ┃ ━━┣┛ ┣┫Copy and paste this ┃ ━━━━━ ┃ ┏┳┫┣┳┓ if it was a ┗━━┳━┳━━┛ ┃ ┃ waste of your ━━━━┃ ┃ ┗━┳┳━┛time ━━━━┃ ┗━━━━━━┛┃ At seventeen, myopia follows the same course whether you wear correction or not. You wear glasses so you can see, not to make your eyes grow right. Glasses don't work like braces on your teeth, and leaving them off does no harm if it's comfortable. That's what doctors believe. If you ask around on the internet, you'll find every idiot has an opinion and some of them will agree with your Mom. Don't worry about it. You aren't causing any harm by wearing them, either. -MT > I'm a 17 year old female, about a year ago I got contacts when my glasses > prescription went up to -1.75. I really love contacts but was told only to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > because she says I am straining my eyes. At home I just put them on when I > want to see something but am I doing my eyes some harm, is my mum right? Dear Dr. Tyner, How that fact was established -- EXACTLY?? It seems to me there was a pilot study suggesting the opposite was true -- but it was never followed up on: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10416930 > Tyner> At seventeen, myopia follows the same course whether you wear > correction or not. Or are you just telling us what you wish was true -- that a minus lens never has any effect on the refractive STATE of the normal eye. Enjoy, > At seventeen, myopia follows the same course whether you wear correction or > not. You wear glasses so you can see, not to make your eyes grow right. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - Show quoted text - On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:55:56 -0700 (PDT), wrote: >It seems to me there was a pilot study suggesting the opposite was >true -- but it was never >followed up on: > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10416930 Otis, you don't even know how to read. From the paper you quoted above: "Based on their wearing patterns, subjects were divided into four categories: (1) full-time wearers; (2) myopes who switched from distance to full-time wear; (3) distance wearers; and (4) nonwearers. Exponential functions were fit to the individual refraction data. The age of onset of myopia, the mean myopia at onset of spectacle wear, and the refractive shift over a period of at least 3 years were derived from these fits. Results show that the 3-year refractive shifts are not significantly different among the four groups." This paper proved the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you are always trying to tell us! In case you are too dumb to understand that, let me say it simpler: The paper proves that Mike is right and you are wrong! Please go away. And take Atchoo with you. > On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:55:56 -0700 (PDT), wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Please go away. And take Atchoo with you. isn't it amazing what a friggin' moron Otis is? we have presented this study to Otis multiple times in the last few years, and even explained it to him, and he doesn't comprehend that is actually disproves his beliefs! Ignorance is bliss, and Otis Brown is a blissful old man. > This paper proved the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you are always trying to tell us! > > In case you are too dumb to understand that, let me say it simpler: The paper > proves that Mike is right and you are wrong! > > Please go away. And take Atchoo with you. Over the years, he's done this time and time again: posted scientific articles, or writings by people WITH some semblance of credibility, that totally contradict any and all of his basic premises. It's pathetic. You just KNOW the guy's a few sandwiches short of a picnic.... > I'm a 17 year old female, about a year ago I got contacts when my glasses > prescription went up to -1.75. I really love contacts but was told only to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Message posted viahttp://www.medkb.com Yes, your mum is right. If you dont wear them when needed, your prescription power will increase. http://www.Daisyeyewear.com On Jun 29, 3:12 pm, daisyeyew...@googlemail.com wrote: > > I'm a 17 year old female, about a year ago I got contacts when my glasses > > prescription went up to -1.75. I really love contacts but was told only to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Yes, your mum is right. If you dont wear them when needed, your > prescription power will increase. WRONG, DEAD WRONG !!! You should stick to spamming since you don't know what you're talking about, Daisy Babes. > I'm a 17 year old female, about a year ago I got contacts when my glasses > prescription went up to -1.75. I really love contacts but was told only to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Message posted viahttp://www.medkb.com Sent e-mail. See www.cleareyesight.info for free Bates training, free Bates book. Free Bates Magazines posted soon. mclearsight@gmail.com wrote in news:a9eea742-fefc-4154-9952-333c5b7a5309 @z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: > Sent e-mail. > See www.cleareyesight.info for free Bates training, free Bates book. > Free Bates Magazines posted soon. Are they available in braille?  SignatureScott Reverse name to reply Hak mir nisht ken tshaynik Dear Scott, If she wears that over-prescribed minus 16/7 -- and gets stair-case myopia from it, why then you are correct. She will need the copy in braille -- after she develops her detached retina. Second-opinion best, On Jun 30, 11:02 am, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote: > mclearsi...@gmail.com wrote in news:a9eea742-fefc-4154-9952-333c5b7a5309 > @z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Reverse name to reply > Hak mir nisht ken tshaynik On Jun 30, 9:55 am, otisbr...@embarqmail.com wrote: > If she wears that over-prescribed minus 16/7 -- and gets stair-case > myopia > from it, why then you are correct. She will need the copy > in braille -- after she develops her detached retina. What is an "over-prescribed minus?" Do you have any evidence that the original poster's prescription fits your definition, above? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that anything works any better than the following advice: 1) Low, simple myopes may wish to remove their glasses for near work 2) Pay meticulous attention to good visual hygiene, including frequent breaks, 3) Get lots of fresh air, sunshine, and vigorous exercise, 4) Eat a healthy, balanced diet, 5) Practice ocular motility exercises (a/k/a yoga for the eyes), 6) Use periocular warming ?? This 'protocol' has been scientifically shown to counteract ANY UNPROVEN ill-effect of a minus lens that you have EVER proposed. So ... can you do any better?? > On Jun 30, 9:55 am, otisbr...@embarqmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > So ... can you do any better?? And ... to clarify my last point ... the "protocol" is my own, but is based on years of research, including watching hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of posts of testing that represents inhumane and irrelevant tests, FOLLOWED by invocation of scientific testing that shows how even the damage done BY those tests is reversed by one or more elements of my "protocol." In other words, even if you stick an unnecessary lens on a particular species of monkey, 24/7, you can reverse the unrealistically induced myopia by giving that poor monkey frequent breaks FROM the lens. But you don't care. Facts and controlled testing don't get in the way of YOUR opinions ... at ... all. >On Jun 30, 9:55 am, otisbr...@embarqmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >So ... can you do any better?? Neil, you forgot 4 other important items: 1. Don't bang your head on the wall. 2. Don't stick sharp foreign objects into your eyes. 3. Don't place harmful chemical in your eyes. 4. Drive carefully and keep distance from crazy or drunk drivers. SignatureMsBrainy If you can't show us evidence your "staircase myopia" is real, then you're just spouting alarmist bullshit. I have an open mind, but I don't believe kids feet get bigger because you buy them bigger shoes. Please, show us why you believe it. -MT ' <otisbrown@embarqmail.com> hath shat in our pool by writing: Dear Scott, If she wears that over-prescribed minus 16/7 -- and gets stair-case myopia from it, why then you are correct. She will need the copy in braille -- after she develops her detached retina. Second-opinion best, On Jun 30, 11:02 am, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote: > mclearsi...@gmail.com wrote in news:a9eea742-fefc-4154-9952-333c5b7a5309 > @z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Reverse name to reply > Hak mir nisht ken tshaynik On Jun 30, 11:02 am, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote: > mclearsi...@gmail.com wrote in news:a9eea742-fefc-4154-9952-333c5b7a5309 > @z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Reverse name to reply > Hak mir nisht ken tshaynik No, but that is a great idea. I will try to post them at the library of congress in braille. I heard that libraries in europe, england have the magazines. They might have them in braille. >> I'm a 17 year old female, about a year ago I got contacts when my glasses >> prescription went up to -1.75. I really love contacts but was told only [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> I >> want to see something but am I doing my eyes some harm, is my mum right? Your mum is wrong. However, if you drive a car without your lenses, you are endangering yourself and others, and probably committing a criminal act. |
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