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-keevill- - 19 May 2008 11:40 GMT
I am aged 50 and have never needed glasses. I had an eye test and the
results came out thus
Right -0.75 -0.5 x .75
Left -0.75
Add 1.75

I am told that this means I am not suitable for Lasik surgery.
Thing is , I really don't like to wear glasses - I don't even wear
sunglasses and I live in a very sunny climate.
What options are available to me apart from just accepting slight diff in
reading small print and seeing distance objects more clearly. I certainly
can live with my reduced vision but would consider perhaps contact lenses or
some type of procedure to correct my vision

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Zetsu - 19 May 2008 16:40 GMT
If you haven't yet started on glasses, then you are in a lucky
position. It will be easier to cure you. Forget Lasik and contacts and
glasses. Print a snellen chart and read it every day from a distance.
Practice with the imagination. See things moving. Carry the memory of
a black period with you. Close your eyes to rest them. Learn to gaze
the sun without discomfort. Blink your eyes gently to help them see.
Enjoy life.
Neil Brooks - 19 May 2008 17:57 GMT
> Carry the memory of
> a black period with you.

For me, that's the day that this "Zetsu" character first posted on
s.m.v.
Zetsu - 19 May 2008 17:59 GMT
Neil, you have a photographic memory don't you? Why don't you utilize
it? Can you remember a black period? Close your eyes now and try it.
Then open your eyes until the memory is equal with eyes open & closed.
Neil Brooks - 19 May 2008 19:19 GMT
> Neil, you have a photographic memory don't you? Why don't you utilize
> it? Can you remember a black period? Close your eyes now and try it.
> Then open your eyes until the memory is equal with eyes open & closed.

Close enough to remember that we've had this discussion before....
Zetsu - 19 May 2008 19:20 GMT
> > Neil, you have a photographic memory don't you? Why don't you utilize
> > it? Can you remember a black period? Close your eyes now and try it.
> > Then open your eyes until the memory is equal with eyes open & closed.
>
> Close enough to remember that we've had this discussion before....

Yeah, but did you try it?
Neil Brooks - 19 May 2008 19:40 GMT
> > > Neil, you have a photographic memory don't you? Why don't you utilize
> > > it? Can you remember a black period? Close your eyes now and try it.
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>
> Yeah, but did you try it?

And, apparently, I remember this discussion better than you do....
Dan Abel - 19 May 2008 21:28 GMT
In article
<aebb1066-019f-46f9-acd5-3400172da6d5@a9g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,

> > Carry the memory of
> > a black period with you.
>
> For me, that's the day that this "Zetsu" character first posted on
> s.m.v.

For me, the black period ended on 6/6/07, when I killfiled it.  My
filters have killfiled about 2100 posts, or an average of about 6 posts
every f.cking day!

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spammer - 20 May 2008 03:23 GMT
> If you haven't yet started on glasses, then you are in a lucky
> position. It will be easier to cure you. Forget Lasik and contacts and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the sun without discomfort. Blink your eyes gently to help them see.
> Enjoy life.

Congratulations on the most retarded post of the month.
Scott Seidman - 19 May 2008 17:31 GMT
> I am aged 50 and have never needed glasses. I had an eye test and the
> results came out thus
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

You have presbyopia.  You will now need glasses to read small print.  
That's just the way it is.

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Zetsu - 19 May 2008 17:50 GMT
He doesn't need glasses. That's just not the way it is. He needs to
rest his eyes.
Scott Seidman - 19 May 2008 19:47 GMT
Zetsu <absolutelyinvincible@hotmail.com> wrote in news:cc3751e0-4b79-4822-
ab74-d9dd1cd186f8@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> He doesn't need glasses. That's just not the way it is. He needs to
> rest his eyes.

You need to rest your keyboard

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p.clarkii@gmail.com - 20 May 2008 04:01 GMT
> He doesn't need glasses. That's just not the way it is. He needs to
> rest his eyes.

please disregard this idiot Zetsu.

you are presbyopic indeed, so if you have glasses or contact lenses
(or LASIK) that corrects your distance vision perfectly so you see
20/20, then you will need reading glasses to see near.  otherwise you
will can take off your glasses and read at near without much
difficulty but be blurring somewhat in the distance.  no amount of
"resting" or exercises can fix that.  its the way humans are put
together.
Dan Abel - 19 May 2008 18:00 GMT
> I am aged 50 and have never needed glasses. I had an eye test and the
> results came out thus
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> can live with my reduced vision but would consider perhaps contact lenses or
> some type of procedure to correct my vision

It's probably just age, and happens to nearly everyone.  You can no
longer see both near and far with the same correction.  If you get
contact lenses for distance, you will then need reading glasses even
more.

You may wish to ask the doctor whether you are likely to pass the vision
screening to renew your driver's license without correction.  This is a
big factor for many people.  The requirements vary by state in the US.  
I don't know about other countries.

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Zetsu - 19 May 2008 19:09 GMT
> In article <f10cb$48315916$23...@news.teranews.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> It's probably just age, and happens to nearly everyone.

Nearly everyone? What about the people that it doesn't happen to? Why
are they ignored? o_O
Zetsu - 19 May 2008 18:07 GMT
> I am aged 50 and have never needed glasses. I had an eye test and the
> results came out thus
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thing is , I really don't like to wear glasses - I don't even wear
> sunglasses and I live in a very sunny climate.

You are lucky to live in a sunny climate. This means you can accustom
yourself to the sun and bright lights more quickly. For me in the UK,
we get a very miserable climate.
Mike Tyner - 19 May 2008 18:33 GMT
> You are lucky to live in a sunny climate. This means you can accustom
> yourself to the sun and bright lights more quickly. For me in the UK,
> we get a very miserable climate.

And evidently a miserable education in science.

-MT
Mike Tyner - 19 May 2008 18:38 GMT
At our age, when everybody has presbyopia, -0.75 or -1.00 are about the best
compromise possible, as close as you get to "not needing glasses."

-MT, OD

>I am aged 50 and have never needed glasses. I had an eye test and the
>results came out thus
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Zetsu - 19 May 2008 19:10 GMT
> At our age, when everybody has presbyopia

False.
Neil Brooks - 19 May 2008 19:20 GMT
> > At our age, when everybody has presbyopia
>
> False.

Ah, yes.  Proof by Assertion.

Mike has decades of clinical experience to support his contention.

You have ... your reading of A book?

Got it.
Mike Tyner - 20 May 2008 02:36 GMT
Based on all those measurements you've made?

If your parents are paying tuition, they're getting ripped off.

-MT

> False.
-keevill- - 20 May 2008 04:11 GMT
I have been using NGs for years and have not had so much fun as with this
post.
This guy 'Zitsu' or whatever he/she/it is called has made my day.
What medication are you on cos I think I will get some after I've finished
staring at the sun and chasing black dots around the bed.
!!

Thanks to the other guys for your input !!

-keevill-

> Based on all those measurements you've made?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>> False.

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Dr Judy - 20 May 2008 15:50 GMT
> I am aged 50 and have never needed glasses. I had an eye test and the
> results came out thus
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I am told that this means I am not suitable for Lasik surgery.

Lasik would correct your distance vision, doing so would make your
near vision worse.

> Thing is , I really don't like to wear glasses - I don't even wear
> sunglasses and I live in a very sunny climate.
> What options are available to me apart from just accepting slight diff in
> reading small print and seeing distance objects more clearly.

Bifocal contact lenses are one option.  Monofocal contact lenses
(correct one eye for distance, the other for near) are another
option.  If you adapt well to the monofocal contacts, then you could
consider LASIK surgery to make it permanent.

You should discuss these options with your eye doctor as there are a
number of other considerations that are best addressed by someone
familar with your case.

Ignore Zetsu, he is a high school student.

Dr Judy
 
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