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MsBrainy - 13 May 2008 07:46 GMT I was tired today and took a good afternoon nap. Consequently I could read clearly the text on my TV screen, which normally I have to lean forward in order to see. It's not the first time I have noticed the connection between my vision and the amount of sleep I get. Is this a known phnomenon? My feeling is that it's related to the eye muscle which function better after rest and more sleep. Is that so? Can anubody comment on this?
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Zetsu - 13 May 2008 09:41 GMT Hi MsBrainy, you're right. Sleep is a form of rest, and anything that rests the eyes and mind will improve the vision. What you are noticing is a known and common phenomenon, and I experience the same thing (although personally, I never take naps, I only sleep at night), where my vision is often crystal clear in the morning. For some reason the doctors have chosen to ignore this hugely significant fact that rest improves the sight - why, I don't know. But if they only acknowledged this and took advantage of it, finding others ways to obtain rest (as Bates himself did) they would surely make rapid progress in the finding of a cure.
For some people on the other hand, sleep is more a strain to them than it is a rest, so they will find their vision is worse after sleeping. In other words, sleep is an unfavourable condition of the mind. However all unfavourable conditions can be switched into optimums, favourable ones, so that they cease to be a strain and become a rest. If you suffer from restless nights, I would advise that you: 1. Learn to sleep on your back. 2. Perform the long swing 50 times before retiring. 3. Buy yourself an LED light, pick up some fine print and read it with the LED as your only light source. 4. Keep that pendulum- like motion up, whether it's physically or mentally. 5. Learn to remember a period at night. If you can do all 5 of these things at bedtime, a deep sleep will overcome you before you know it. Anyone suffering from insomnia should try.
If you are interested in finding out more about how rest can improve the sight, just read the Bates literature. In fact, the fundamental principle of the cure of imperfect sight is rest.
As for the eye muscles functioning better after rest, yes that's a truth.
Zetsu - 13 May 2008 10:18 GMT Here's some passages regarding the topic of sleep from the Better Eyesight Magazine:
[...Question - If closing and resting the eyes is beneficial why won't sleep cure defective vision?
Answer - Sleep is hard on the eyes because most people strain their eyes more when they are asleep than when they are awake...]
- June, 1924
[...Q. Better Eyesight advises sleeping on the back. Will you kindly give me explicit directions as to how to do this?
A. In lying on your back the arms should be parallel with the body and the lower limbs completely extended. The height of the pillow is immaterial. The head may or may not be turned to one side. It is a good thing to go to sleep swinging or palming...]
- November, 1921
[...There was some discussion about eye strain during sleep. Many people suffer very much from headache and imperfect sight on first rising in the morning and the symptoms may continue for several hours.
A gentleman present related his experience. He obtained much benefit by rising at 4 a.m. with the aid of an alarm clock, when he would practise the "Long Swing" until relieved. He would then retire, sleep the rest of the night and on rising find the eye strain much less or absent altogether...]
- December, 1922
[...During sleep the refractive condition of the eye is rarely, if ever, normal. Persons whose refraction is normal when they are awake will produce myopia, hypermetropia and astigmatism when they are asleep, or, if they have errors of refraction when they are awake, they will be Increased during sleep. This is why people waken in the morning with eyes more tired than at any other time, or even with severe headaches. When the subject is under ether or chloroform. or unconscious from any other cause, errors of refraction are also produced or increased...]
- The Variability of the Refraction of the Eye, January 1920
[...Eyestrain During Sleep
Many people complain that when they awaken in the morning, they are suffering from pain in their eyes or head. They often feel as weary as though they had been working hard all night long. Many of them do not recover from the pain and fatigue until after they have been up for an hour or longer. Their vision also may be found to be reduced to a very considerable degree. Some complain that they see illusions which are occasionally very slow in disappearing. One patient complained that the tiled floor of a bath room had a very strange appearance; although the tiles were white, to him they appeared blue and red alternately. A feeling of strain was always present and did not subside until the illusion had disappeared. It seemed as though the eyes were under a strain during sleep, because when the eyes were examined with the ophthalmoscope while the patient was asleep, a strain could readily be observed.
Sometimes, as in the case of many children, other parts of the body may be under a strain during sleep. By an unconscious effort, the muscles of the face, arms and limbs may be distorted as may be muscles of different parts of the eyeball. In some cases, the strain produces accommodation or myopia, while in other cases, hypermetropia or astigmatism are produced by this unconscious effort. These eyes frequently were found to be normal during the day.
The treatment to prevent eyestrain during sleep is not always successful. Some patients obtain most relief by practicing the long swing one hundred times or more just before retiring and the same number of times in the morning immediately after awakening. Other patients find that palming for twenty minutes before retiring is a help, and frequently the palms are left in place with benefit after the patients have lost consciousness...]
- January, 1928
[...Sleepiness and Eyestrain, By W. H. Bates, M.D.
How much sleep is necessary to maintain health? This is a question which has never been satisfactorily answered. Theoretically, mental or physical work should increase the need for sleep, but it is a matter of common knowledge that many inactive persons seem to need just as much sleep as those who work, or even more.
Much time has been devoted to the investigation of the symptoms of fatigue. Analyses have been made of the blood of fatigued subjects; the action of the muscles. nerves and brain, the changes in the structure of the cells, under the influence of fatigue, the changes following sleep, have all been carefully studied. But so far very little light has been thrown upon the nature of either fatigue or sleep.
This is a fact, however: that eyestrain has always been demonstrated when fatigue was present, and that fatigue has always been relieved when eyestrain was relieved. Perfect sight is perfect rest, and cannot coexist with fatigue. Even the memory or imagination of fatigue is accompanied by the production of eyestrain and imperfect sight, while the memory of perfect sight will relieve both eyestrain and fatigue. Sleepiness is a common symptom of habitual eyestrain, and when the sight improves the need for sleep is often markedly reduced.
One patient reports that after gaining normal sight without glasses she was able to get on comfortably with seven hours sleep, whereas she had formerly not been able to avoid continual sleepiness and yawning even on nine and ten hours. The inclination to yawn on all occasions had been so overpowering, she stated, that it often subjected her to great embarrassment. On one occasion she yawned so incessantly during a call made in the early evening that the visitor concluded, not unnaturally, that her presence was a burden and departed in high dudgeon, no explanations sufficing to convince her that the yawning was not the result of boredom. The patient was made very unhappy by this condition, but finally became reconciled to it in a measure, thinking that what could not be cured must be endured. Great was her surprise and delight, therefore, when, after discarding her glasses and beginning to practice central fixation, she found herself sleeping less and not yawning so much. She made no conscious effort, she said, to check the yawning, and had indeed almost forgotten about it. She now gets sleepy only at bedtime.
Another patient, although he never had any desire to sleep in the daytime, found it very difficult to keep awake in the evening. At the opera or theatre, at lectures and social gatherings, and at church, he was always sleepy and often went to sleep. It was naturally more difficult for him to keep awake when he was not interested, but whether he was interested or not he was sure to become more or less sleepy. He never went to a lecture without going to sleep, and the world's most famous song-birds were not always able to keep him awake at the opera. In the case of dull papers or sermons, it did no good to think of something else, for the sound of the speaker's voice acted like an opiate. When he learned how to relax by the aid of the memory, imagination, shifting, swinging and palming, the trouble gradually became less, and now he can stay awake at all times and in all places where people are supposed to stay awake...]
- September, 1920
Zetsu - 13 May 2008 10:32 GMT [...Eye Strain When Sleeping
By W. H. Bates, M. D.
Many persons strain their eyes when sleeping. When they awake in the morning, they feel pain in their eyes with imperfect sight and often with severe headache. They may feel all tired out, not refreshed or rested by a sleep of eight hours or longer. In some cases the sleep may not have been disturbed by dreams. Dreams are not always remembered for any great length of time. There are people who can recall dreams in their early childhood twenty, thirty, forty years ago, but their recent dreams cannot be remembered longer than a few minutes or a few hours after awakening. To keep accurate records of dreams requires that they be recorded as soon as possible. Pleasant dreams do not always mean relaxation, but dreams of snakes, nightmares, fighting, crimes and horrible experiences of all sorts are usually followed by imperfect sight caused by eye strain.
Some of my patients with a severe trouble of the eyes have told me some very awful dreams. During sleep the ticking of a clock or the outside noises in the street may be the starting point of a very exciting, disagreeable or uncomfortable dream which is due to strain.
I am tempted to relate my personal experiences in dreams. Recently I awakened in the morning with a feeling that I had been dreaming. I got into a fight with a drunken man and had soaked the bedpost with my fist with disastrous results to the skin of my knuckles. Afterwards I noticed that the white tiled floor instead of being white the blocks were alternately pink and blue and this illusion continued for a half hour when it gradually disappeared. On another occasion, I awakened after a dreamless sleep and noticed that the ceiling was covered with a very white cloud similar to a veil. This illusion disappeared in five or ten minutes.
Many patients ask: "Why do I have so much pain, discomfort, imperfect sight in the morning after a good sleep?"
My answer is: "Because you strain your eyes and all the nerves of your body when you are asleep."
But for me to explain the facts further is something I cannot do. All I know is the fact that it is so. New born babies, half an hour after birth and later, by simultaneous retinoscopy produce a deformation of the eyeball, nearsightedness (myopia), farsightedness (hypermetropia), astigmatism of variable degree, at short intervals of a few hours. At one time, myopia will be found of the same amount in each eye; or one eye may be normal while the other eye may be myopic. At the second examination, both eyes may be normal, hypermetropic, or with any form of astigmatism. The child may produce any combination of errors of refraction by eye strain when asleep which may persist for a longer or shorter period when awake. At times the eyes become normal when the child is awake. Squint or strabismus in its various forms always occurs and is also variable. The use of strong atropine, 3 ½ per cent, instilled into both eyes does not prevent the manifestations of eye strain in new born children when asleep.
In adults, simultaneous retinoscopy demonstrates the production of near-sightedness and other deformations of the eyeball by eye strain during sleep but which usually become less or disappear and the eyes resume their normal shape in a few hours after awakening. Just as in babies atropine does not prevent, during sleep, the results of eye strain.
Hypnotism, ether, chloroform and nitrous oxide gas are all accompanied by well marked eye strain during sleep produced by these agents.
Eye strain during sleep may produce in the normal eye severe pain with hardness of the eyeball simulating the increased tension of an attack of glaucoma. In all diseases of the eyes, inflammations of the eyelids, cornea, iris, lens (cataract) retina and optic nerve eye strain during sleep increases the severity of the symptoms with a corresponding loss of vision, temporary or more permanent. Detachment of the retina has been aggravated or produced by eye strain during sleep.
The results of eye strain during sleep are so disastrous that I believe proper treatment is essential. Some patients have been benefited by "Palming" for half an hour or longer before dropping off to sleep. "Go to sleep while palming. Palm if you wake up during the night. Practice the long or short "Swing" before retiring," I advise.
Some people seem to sleep longer than is necessary and the eye strain may appear increased. Some observations made of a four hour period of sleep during the night with or without a nap in the day time seemed to show less eye strain.
Posture during sleep has been studied. Lying on the face has generally been accompanied by an increase of eye strain. Sleeping on the back with the arms and limbs extended with slight flexion is undoubtedly better than sleeping on the right or left side. A cramped posture is always wrong. The patient is not always conscious of his posture when asleep. In a number of cases observed by friends of the patient, one or both arms were held behind the head while asleep and strenuously denied by the patient when awake.
The correction of this and other strained positions of the arms and limbs has been followed by decided benefit to the vision.
Eye strain during sleep produces or increases the symptoms of strain in various parts of the body. Some months ago I suffered from an attack of the grippe and had a very strong cough without expectoration. This cough was spasmodic and did not bother me very much during the day and when it did it was very easy for me to obtain sufficient relaxation to control it. But at night it was terrible, it would wake me up a few hours after I had retired and the coughing would be so severe and continuous that it was impossible for me to obtain relaxation of the eye strain while the room was dark. I was compelled to get out of bed and light the room in order to practice the long swing which gave me relief in an incredibly short time, a few minutes or less. I would then go back to bed and sleep for a few hours or the rest of the night without being disturbed by the cough. It was interesting to me that the relief of the eye strain was also a benefit to the bronchial or other lung tension.
For some years I had been afflicted with a chronic tuberculosis of the right elbow joint which at times caused great pain. When I became able to relax the eye strain, to remember or imagine perfect sight, the pain in the elbow disappeared. One evening I retired as usual and slept very comfortably until one o'clock when I was awakened with an intense pain in the elbow. The pain was so severe that I lost all control of my mind and became practically insane. I was unable to remember even my own name or any of the letters on the Snellen Test Card which I read every day. The doctor who was summoned gave me a hyperdermic with morphine every little while but without any appreciable relief. I kept saying, "Somebody help me to remember black," but my attendants sat around the room saying nothing and all they seemed able to do was to watch me suffer and give me morphine. This continued for four hours. During all this time I instinctively was trying to remember or imagine something that I had seen before. All of a sudden I remembered a large black C and the pain let up. In a few minutes I became able to remember all the letters on the Snellen Test Card and fell asleep. I woke up an hour later, six o'clock, apparently perfectly well without any sign of pain or soreness in the elbow. I dressed without any trouble, went downtown to the office and did a day's work without any return of the eye strain or pain in the elbow...]
- February, 1923
Zetsu - 13 May 2008 10:54 GMT [...How My Eyestrain was Relieved
By Charlotte Robertson
I have had such wonderful relief by following Dr. Bates' method of treating imperfect sight and I eyestrain that I should like to tell of my experience. It may be the means of giving courage to those who suffered as I did, but who hesitate to leave off their glasses. I had worn glasses but my eyes were not benefited. In fact they became worse. I went to Dr. Bates and am pleased to give some of the "exercises" advised by him which I have found very beneficial.
1. The Snellen test card I read upon arising in the morning, at noon and again in the evening, first with two eyes together and later with each eye separately. 2. Palming six times a day or more for a few minutes to half an hour, decreasing the length of time as my eyes improved.
3. I have practiced reading a little fine print daily, also some of the pages from Dr. Bates' book, "Perfect Sight Without Glasses," which I have always found encouraging. At night on retiring I have used the swing together with central fixation on the small O, and by so doing have lost the wretched strain which I have been conscious of for months, always on awakening in the morning. This exercise consists of swinging the O to the left and seeing the right side best, to the right and seeing the left side best. Also swinging the black period with the O to the left, seeing the period on the right side of the O best, and to the right, seeing the period on the left side of the O best. First by the practice of this exercise, also with a soothing swinging motion as that of drifting in a boat in a comparatively quiet sea, I obtained relaxation when falling to sleep. My morning eye strain had completely disappeared and in its place I awake feeling rested, refreshed and ready for the day's work...]
- May, 1923
[..."For many years," Ire related, "I have suffered from insomnia, and in recent months it has been nothing unusual for me to remain awake the entire night. Frequently I stay up all night, realizing the futility of trying to induce sleep. A short time ago I did this twice in a single week. When I do sleep my slumber has been very light and disturbed by the wildest imaginable dreaming - fires, murders, hairbreadth escapes, etc. As a result of the insomnia and eyestrain I frequently had splitting headaches, sometimes everyday, and sometimes even twice a day. From these I could secure relief only by the use of what I knew to be harmful medicines. Since I came to you I have been sleeping very much better, the dreams have become much less disturbing, and the headaches have practically ceased."...]
- January, 1921
Lastly, here is an interesting article written by Rishi Gatti on the subject of insomnia and its cure by means of rest methods used simultaneously in the cure of imperfect sight:
http://www.sistemabates.it/insonnia_e_cura_della_vista.htm
It's in Italian, so you need a translator to read it.
Mike Tyner - 13 May 2008 16:42 GMT > feeling is that it's related to the eye muscle which function better after > rest and more sleep. Is that so? Can anubody comment on this? Which muscle is acting to help you focus better? I had the impression you and I were about the same age.
More likely it's subtle changes in your cornea that result from having your eyes closed. It normally swells a few percent overnight.
-MT
John Hasenkam - 14 May 2008 03:59 GMT >> feeling is that it's related to the eye muscle which function better >> after [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > More likely it's subtle changes in your cornea that result from having > your eyes closed. It normally swells a few percent overnight. Yes, Scott Read at the QUT, Brisbane, released some results last year suggesting that even reading with a downward gaze can impact on corneal structure. Helps explain the frequent reports of people having blurry vision after long hours on the computer. Ptosis can also impact on the cornea. I had the opposite problem for a few years: waking up with blurred vision.
Fatigue can impact on vision. That could be a neurologic issue. Just as we are slow in the mornings and the old noggin aint quite up to speed(dopamine still rising hence the cuppa!), so too we should not be surprised that vision is affected by fatigue.
> -MT Mike Tyner - 14 May 2008 11:59 GMT > Fatigue can impact on vision. That could be a neurologic issue. Just as we > are slow in the mornings and the old noggin aint quite up to > speed(dopamine still rising hence the cuppa!), so too we should not be > surprised that vision is affected by fatigue. If someone actually measures a difference in vernier acuity, I will be surprised.
-MT
John Hasenkam - 14 May 2008 12:55 GMT >> Fatigue can impact on vision. That could be a neurologic issue. Just as >> we are slow in the mornings and the old noggin aint quite up to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -MT "Occupational health problems in modern work environment
14/05/2008 9:52PM
Occupational health problems in modern work environment
Medicina (Kaunas) 2004; 40(9)
During detailed clinical-experimental trials that
included 104 people working with the computer (the
mean age of the subjects was 33.8 years), the main
sight disorders during work were the following: deteriorated
vision (85.6%), reddened eyes (42.3%) and
eyestrain (46.1%). These symptoms and the impairment
of the optic function define the syndrome of the
strain or fatigue of the vision analyzer, called asthenopia.
The stability of asthenopia is characterized by time
during which the indicated symptoms disappear and
the optic function is reestablished. According to the
findings of the performed studies, in 44% of all the
subjects the symptoms disappear after the discontinuation
of the computer work, in 44% of cases they remain
for several hours after work, and in 12% cases
they are felt the next day.
...
The findings of psycho-physiological studies show
that computer work results in a significant fatigue of
the central nervous system, impairs attention
...
The stability of acute vision decreases by 35.2%, and
the fluctuation of the acute/blurred vision periods increases
to 20.0 times/min, while the respective values
in the control group were, accordingly, 10.4% and 6.7
times/min.
Mike Tyner - 14 May 2008 14:42 GMT Nonetheless, fatigue doesn't appreciably decrease vernier acuity, nor does resting improve it.
Of course fatigue influences accommodation, binocularity, attention, the ability to _sustain_ clear vision. All of the above. But it doesn't affect the resolution of retinal receptors, and it doesn't explain why a presbyopic myope might experience decreased distance blur at rising.
Back to my question - which muscle gets rested overnight in order to improve focus first thing in the morning? The constrictor pupillae?
-MT
>> If someone actually measures a difference in vernier acuity, I will be >> surprised.
> "Occupational health problems in modern work environment > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > times/min. John Hasenkam - 14 May 2008 16:00 GMT You chase your ideas Mike, I'm chasing mine. I have heard that retinal dopamine function is quite important for vision. ... PD causes a progressive loss of dopaminergic cells predominantly in the retina and possibly in other areas of the visual system. This retinal dopamine deficiency produces selective spatial-temporal abnormalities in retinal ganglion cell function, probably arising from altered receptive field organization in the PD retina.
The four most common sight-threatening conditions in older adults in North America are cataract, ARM, glaucoma, and diabetic retinopathy. Even in their moderate stages, these conditions cause visual sensory impairments and reductions in health-related quality of life, including difficulties in daily tasks and psychosocial problems. Many older adults are free from these conditions, yet still experience a variety of visual perceptual problems resulting from aging-related changes in the optics of the eye and degeneration of the visual neural pathways. These problems consist of impairments in visual acuity, contrast sensitivity, color discrimination, temporal sensitivity, motion perception, peripheral visual field sensitivity, and visual processing speed. PD causes a progressive loss of dopaminergic cells predominantly in the retina and possibly in other areas of the visual system. This retinal dopamine deficiency produces selective spatial-temporal abnormalities in retinal ganglion cell function, probably arising from altered receptive field organization in the PD retina. The cortical degeneration characteristics of AD, including neurofibrillary tangles and neuritic plaques, also are present in the visual cortical areas, especially in the visual association areas. The most prominent electrophysiologic change in AD is a delay in the P2 component of the flash VEP. Deficits in higher-order visual abilities typically are compromised in AD, including problems with visual attention, perceiving structure from motion, visual memory, visual learning, reading, and object and face perception. There have been reports of a visual variant of AD in which these types of visual problems are the initial and most prominent signs of the disease. Visual sensory impairments (e.g., contrast sensitivity or achromatopsia) also have been reported but are believed more reflective of cortical disturbances than of AD-associated optic neuropathy.
PMID: 13677819 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
This is fascinating:
Given that therapy with L-dopa plus occlusion initially improved visual acuity by approximately 1.7 lines following the termination of standard therapy, L-dopa plus occlusion may reset baseline visual acuity and lead to long-term improvement in visual acuity after recidivism.
PMID: 12458842 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
ONCLUSION: Though levodopa and carbidopa therapy may not be able to ameliorate amblyopia on its own on a long-term basis, it may be considered nonetheless to be an important adjunct to conventional therapy because it may improve patient compliance for occlusion by improving visual acuity in the amblyopic eye. Thus, it offers promise of improving the functional outcome in these cases. However, longer follow-up trials are needed to substantiate these conclusions.
PMID: 11911549 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE
Quail and retinal dopamine
Combining the PERG and the morphological results, it would seem that the retinal DA plays an important role in the visual functions studied, and that loss of retinal DA could underlie some of the visual changes which occur during ageing.
PMID: 9196729 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> Nonetheless, fatigue doesn't appreciably decrease vernier acuity, nor does > resting improve it. [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] >> >> times/min. Mike Tyner - 14 May 2008 16:59 GMT > You chase your ideas Mike, I'm chasing mine. I have heard that retinal > dopamine function is quite important for vision. The OP was asking why her vision was better after a nap.
Does everybody's acuity improve after sleep? I didn't know that.
-MT
John Hasenkam - 14 May 2008 17:22 GMT >> You chase your ideas Mike, I'm chasing mine. I have heard that retinal >> dopamine function is quite important for vision. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -MT Actually Mike I thought it was the converse, that upon waking vision is not optimal, hence my chasing the dopamine angle but unfortunately couldn't find anything on circadians and vision.
Why are the Batesonians here? They have their own forums, we do not go there and stay there. Let me guess: there here to save everyone from you evil specialist bastards who are involved in a cosmic conspiracy to deprive everyone of perfect eyesight.
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