Medical Forum / General / Vision / April 2008
Just turn over sci.med.vision to advertisements.
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otisbrown@embarqmail.com - 25 Apr 2008 03:51 GMT Dear Bev and friends,
Subject: This is no longer a site about vision at all.
Enjoy,
Neil Brooks - 25 Apr 2008 04:06 GMT On Apr 24, 7:51 pm, otisbr...@embarqmail.com wrote:
> Dear Bev and friends, > > Subject: This is no longer a site about vision at all. > > Enjoy, I think the ads actually offer more benefit and less risk than your posts, though, Otis.
I truly do.
The Real Bev - 25 Apr 2008 06:18 GMT > On Apr 24, 7:51 pm, otisbr...@embarqmail.com wrote: >> Dear Bev and friends, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I truly do. The sheer quantity now is overwhelming and you can't filter them out all that well in thunderbird. We can blow whistles in telemarketers' ears, but there's really no way we can kill these bastards. Yeah, kill FOR REAL. They're vandals for profit and really don't deserve to live.
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Dan Abel - 25 Apr 2008 07:09 GMT > The sheer quantity now is overwhelming and you can't filter them out all > that well in thunderbird. I'm just not seeing the problem. Either I'm more tolerant or else my ISP is filtering the spam. I suspect the latter.
> We can blow whistles in telemarketers' ears, > but there's really no way we can kill these bastards. Yeah, kill FOR > REAL. They're vandals for profit and really don't deserve to live. In another group, some people are killing everything from Google Groups (which not all newsreaders, including TB, can do easily), or just everything with a gmail address (that pisses some people off). Here's some google stuff:
http://improve-usenet.org
 Signature Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA dabel@sonic.net
Zetsu - 25 Apr 2008 11:03 GMT Why don't we just start a whole new newsgroup? And because people would still be coming here, we could post a daily message: Sorry, sci.med.vision is currently under attack by advertisers. Please go to... [link]. (A link to the new newsgroup). What does anyone think of my idea?
Giff - 25 Apr 2008 11:34 GMT > Why don't we just start a whole new newsgroup? > And because people would still be coming here, Hi, this is my first message here. What makes you think that the advertisers won't follow the good people to the new newsgroup?
Zetsu - 25 Apr 2008 12:15 GMT I've considered the possibility of that, but monitoring the 'pattern' of these advertisers, it seems quite unlikely given that they only appear to be pouncing on the main, bigger groups. Chances are the new one (sci.med.vision2) would go unnoticed in their radar.
Dan Abel - 25 Apr 2008 17:29 GMT > > Why don't we just start a whole new newsgroup? > > And because people would still be coming here, > > Hi, this is my first message here. > What makes you think that the advertisers won't follow the good people > to the new newsgroup? Or worse yet, Zetsu?
WhatsItsNameToday fails to understand that *it* is the main attacker of this newsgroup. Most reputable vision folks have stopped posting here, primarily because of the non-scientific *crap* that it posts.
 Signature Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA dabel@sonic.net
Scott Seidman - 25 Apr 2008 13:49 GMT Zetsu <absolutelyinvincible@hotmail.com> wrote in news:41cf376e-b193-4090- 9afe-d753513f3cac@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
> Why don't we just start a whole new newsgroup? I think that's a fine idea.
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Dan Abel - 25 Apr 2008 17:22 GMT > Zetsu <absolutelyinvincible@hotmail.com> wrote in news:41cf376e-b193-4090- > 9afe-d753513f3cac@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: > > > Why don't we just start a whole new newsgroup? > > I think that's a fine idea. I think somebody did. I think it's called "alt.vision.wackos". It's a perfect place for wacko^H^H^H^H^H atchoo^H^H^H^H^H^H Zetsu and Otis.
Go for it!
 Signature Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA dabel@sonic.net
otisbrown@embarqmail.com - 25 Apr 2008 15:06 GMT Dear Zetsu,
Subject: "Monitored" site
These "advertisements" will shut-down sci.med.vision.
These seems to be no choice but to set up a new site, monitored by Bev.
If you are intersted in second-opinion methods (OBJECTION to the minus lens -- and development of the preventive alternative) you might click here and allow Alex to monitor the postings.
It is a broad scientific site -- and has an open mind towards prevetive methods. (i.e., Bates, Prentice-Raphaelson)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/i-see/
It all depends on what you are looking for.
A SCIENTIFIC versus MEDICAL solution (in terms of true-prevention -- not "cure")
Enjoy,
> Why don't we just start a whole new newsgroup? > And because people would still be coming here, we could post a daily > message: Sorry, sci.med.vision is currently under attack by > advertisers. Please go to... [link]. (A link to the new newsgroup). > What does anyone think of my idea? Neil Brooks - 27 Apr 2008 22:19 GMT On Apr 25, 7:06 am, otisbr...@embarqmail.com wrote:
> Dear Zetsu, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > These seems to be no choice but to set up a new site, monitored by > Bev. Nice of you to volunteer Bev's time like that.
My GOD, but you are an idiot.
Are you legally responsible for your own affairs, at this point?
Seriously.
The Real Bev - 28 Apr 2008 00:13 GMT > On Apr 25, 7:06 am, otisbr...@embarqmail.com wrote: >> Dear Zetsu, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Nice of you to volunteer Bev's time like that. I killfiled it, along with otis and rishi and a few others, long ago. It can volunteer me for anything it wants to, I don't have to care!
BTW, moderated newsgroups are not a solution to the problem. They're a bitch to add to the big-8 set carried by everyone, a pain to set up hardware- and software-wise, and a bother to well-meaning souls who don't understand how moderation works.
> My GOD, but you are an idiot. > > Are you legally responsible for your own affairs, at this point? > > Seriously. It's still possible to earn a meagre living by pushing a broom; if it does it in a library it can probably get free internet access.
I'm less worried about these dolts than I am about the spammers who are rapidly destroying usenet, the greatest means of exchanging information known to man.
 Signature Cheers, Bev ============================================================ Brian (Talking to crowd): You need to be independent minded. Crowd: We are! We are! Person in crowd: I'm not! -- Monty Python
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