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Preservative free anti-glaucoma drops

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Salmon Egg - 13 Apr 2008 06:53 GMT
What kind of preservative free eye drops are available for treating
glaucoma? My ophthalmologist agrees that preservatives can give
problems. It seems that all of her offerings contain BAK.

I apologize  that I do not remember who first warned be about
preservatives.

Bill
Jason Sperry - 13 Apr 2008 07:47 GMT
WTF?

Why not do the bates method?
Zetsu - 13 Apr 2008 12:21 GMT
>I apologize  that I do not remember who first warned be about
>preservatives.

It was Neil Brooks who warned you.
Dr Judy - 13 Apr 2008 16:16 GMT
> WTF?
>
> Why not do the bates method?

Untreated glaucoma can lead to permanent blindness.  Do not use the
unproven Bates method to treat this very serious disease.
Salmon Egg - 13 Apr 2008 19:51 GMT
In article
<3c035834-b176-42f1-a0d7-ea88146f0565@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,

> > WTF?
> >
> > Why not do the bates method?
>
> Untreated glaucoma can lead to permanent blindness.  Do not use the
> unproven Bates method to treat this very serious disease.

Even if the Bates method worked for refraction correction, why would
anyone even think of it for glaucoma,

I have been thinking cannabis. Are eye drops available? Would that
require a preservative?

Bill
Zetsu - 13 Apr 2008 19:56 GMT
There have been cases in which glaucoma was cured.
Mike Tyner - 13 Apr 2008 21:46 GMT
> There have been cases in which glaucoma was cured.

I have a friend in Nigeria who wants to send you some money.

-MT
Zetsu - 13 Apr 2008 22:50 GMT
> > There have been cases in which glaucoma was cured.
>
> I have a friend in Nigeria who wants to send you some money.
>
> -MT

Tell him to send it over, then.
Don W - 13 Apr 2008 21:55 GMT
> There have been cases in which glaucoma was cured.

 Playing around with funny advice is irresponsible in this area.  The
treatment of glaucoma and its effect on the patient is best left to the
professionals, some of who have nerve enough and kind enough to remain on
this god-forsaken, rabid bulletin board.
Zetsu - 13 Apr 2008 22:02 GMT
I am being serious. This is not funny advice.
Don W - 14 Apr 2008 01:09 GMT
>I am being serious. This is not funny advice.

 Actually it is extremely funny advice.  And I hope you know it.  (Do
you???).  There is some chance that someone just may take it (your comments)
seriously.  With the resultant damage that just might ensue.

 By the way, from what concoction does "absoutelyinvincible" name come
from?

 You are wrong medically, physiologically, ill mannered, disrespectful and
(last (hah!) but not least, hurtful and unkind).

 (Did I leave anything out??).
John Sheridan - 14 Apr 2008 10:21 GMT
>>I am being serious. This is not funny advice.
>
>  Actually it is extremely funny advice.  And I hope you know it.  (Do
>you???).  There is some chance that someone just may take it (your comments)
>seriously.  With the resultant damage that just might ensue.

We should also add that if he says he has a cure for things
like glaucoma, he is essentially practicing medicine without a
license which is a serious crime.  If he is really 16 years old
then maybe he can get away with it for now, but if he continues
when he gets older then he could get in trouble...
Zetsu - 14 Apr 2008 14:06 GMT
>from what concoction does "absoutelyinvincible" name come from?

Well, when I was making a hotmail account I couldn't decide what to
call it, and most of the names I wanted were already taken up, so I
just decided on 'absolutelyinvincible' because I knew that no one else
would have that name, and I think it sounds cool too.
Don W - 14 Apr 2008 17:26 GMT
> >from what concoction does "absoutelyinvincible" name come from?
>
> Well, when I was making a hotmail account I couldn't decide what to
> call it, and most of the names I wanted were already taken up, so I
> just decided on 'absolutelyinvincible' because I knew that no one else
> would have that name, and I think it sounds cool too.

 Well, OK, I understand that, but what are you "absolutelyinvincible" at??
Or hope to be???
Zetsu - 14 Apr 2008 18:52 GMT
Nothing, dude. It's just like a cool tag name.
You know, like 'Princess X' or 'TheRealMrT' etc.
It's like, just something memorable and catchy.
I'm certainly not trying to imply am absolutelyinvincible!
Jason Sperry - 14 Apr 2008 19:40 GMT
> Nothing, dude. It's just like a cool tag name.
> You know, like 'Princess X' or 'TheRealMrT' etc.
> It's like, just something memorable and catchy.
> I'm certainly not trying to imply am absolutelyinvincible!

LOL, I love that name, actually! What is everyone complaining about?
=P

Seriously though, the Bates method makes you absolutely invincible to
pain and discomfort of all kinds. (To the idiots on this site: To know
what I'm talking about, obviously you'd have to read The Book.)
John Sheridan - 14 Apr 2008 21:38 GMT
>Seriously though, the Bates method makes you absolutely invincible to
>pain and discomfort of all kinds. (To the idiots on this site: To know
>what I'm talking about, obviously you'd have to read The Book.)

You went a little too far on that one, Jason, and you tipped your hand.

Now I know that you are just a troll.  You are here to stir things up and
see how much reaction you can get as any typical troll does.

I assume Zetsu is the same, so I won't be answering either of you any more.

I hope others in this newsgroup do the same. (hint, hint...)
Jason Sperry - 15 Apr 2008 05:58 GMT
> >Seriously though, the Bates method makes you absolutely invincible to
> >pain and discomfort of all kinds. (To the idiots on this site: To know
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> I hope others in this newsgroup do the same. (hint, hint...)

I'm sorry...but I am no troll!
Jason Sperry - 15 Apr 2008 06:02 GMT
BTW: regarding the post that John Sheridan responded to: I was
obviously just being humorous, but some of it was fact. It is true
that pain can be relieved with the Bates method.

PS: John, please refrain from personal insults. I do not believe Zetsu
is a troll, either. Back up your arguments. And if it's just your
opinion, please refrain from clicking "Send" to soon.

Thanks
Jason Sperry - 15 Apr 2008 06:06 GMT
> WTF?
>
> Why not do the bates method?

I'm SORRY I said that. I'll be more scientific from now on.
Dr Judy - 13 Apr 2008 16:18 GMT
> What kind of preservative free eye drops are available for treating
> glaucoma? My ophthalmologist agrees that preservatives can give
> problems. It seems that all of her offerings contain BAK.
>
> I apologize  that I do not remember who first warned be about
> preservatives.

Are you having symptoms of BAK sensitivity?

Almost all the therapeutic drops do have BAK, it is not your doctor's
fault; she can only prescribe what is available.

There may be some unit dose drops available, ask your pharmacist to
research whether your current drops are available in a unit dose
formalation.

Judy
Anon E. Muss - 14 Apr 2008 01:02 GMT
>What kind of preservative free eye drops are available for treating
>glaucoma?

Off-the-shelf?  Preservative-free timolol maleate ophthalmic solution
was (still is?) available in the form of the MERCK brandname TIMOPTIC
-- see <http://tinyurl.com/5sow9u> is the only I am aware of.

Non-BAK preserved topical IOP lowering drops include, at least,
Alcon's TRAVATAN-Z (see <http://tinyurl.com/5wf5bs>) and Allergan's
ALPHAGAN-P (see <http://tinyurl.com/64p7ly>).

Places like Leiter's Pharmacy in San Jose (see
<http://tinyurl.com/6ewjur>) can compound a bunch more.

> My ophthalmologist agrees that preservatives can give
> problems.

It can.

> It seems that all of her offerings contain BAK.

Almost all of them do.
 
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