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Jim - 15 Feb 2008 03:02 GMT
i'm coming up to having cataract surgery in the not so distant future,
and so am reading a lot here. It's something I'll have to do eventually,
but it is a scary thing.

other than that, I don't have anything to say.

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The Real Bev - 15 Feb 2008 03:37 GMT
> i'm coming up to having cataract surgery in the not so distant future,
> and so am reading a lot here. It's something I'll have to do eventually,
> but it is a scary thing.

I don't know anybody who was sorry they had it done.

You need to decide whether you want your "new" vision to be set for near
or far or somewhere in between.  My mom's doc decided for her without
asking and she was pretty angry when she found out -- she would have
chosen distance rather than near vision.

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 shouldn't we be the ones to suck?"
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Jim - 16 Feb 2008 03:25 GMT
eye reply

Thanks for all the replies.

I wrote a what really turned into a long reply to this, then dumped it.  
The short( er ) version is I'm 53, have congenital nuclear subcapsular
cataracts.  Up until about age 43 or so they didn't affect my vision at
all.   Thru my mid to late 40's they became quite a bother, mostly from
ghost images. Ghosts, double images, in each eye. First the right then
followed a few years later in the left.  The right eye wasn't so bad,
and after about a year it cleared up, the double went away.  The left
was much worse. I may may still have a double in it under some lighting
conditions.  Of course I see big flares at night, but I'm not out a lot
at night, so that isn't a big issue. What is a problem is that because
of my pupils getting smaller with age and the cataracts being in the
center of my lenses, my vision blurs in bright light. Eventually that
will force me to go under the knife.

In my 40's and early 50's I went thru the usual many pairs of lenses,
and several eye doctors.   My vision isn't awful, -1.75 and -2.0  is the
correction, so I'm slightly nearsighted.  I have nice usable pair of
progressive bifocals I wear when I'm out and about. When I'm home I
don't wear the glasses and function just fine.  

When I do get the IOL's I suppose I'll go with distance. I've read
that's " normal " and more likely to turn out ok.  Then I'll need
reading glasses.  If I were sure they would hit the mark, I might
consider something that focused at about arms length, maybe 20 inches,
just barely farther than where my eyes now naturally focus, about 14
inches or so.  I mean, hey, I'm an old guy, what do I need to be able to
see miles away for ?  

My dad had his eyes done this winter.  It'll be fun to see how he likes
his IOL's, both eyes focus at distance. His experience will give me a
little more info on what I'd go with.  In the mean time, I'll read here
now and then.  

I guess what keeps me from acting is that I can still see fine ( not
perfect but fine )  when working with my computer and around home. Then
again, once I have them done, I'm sure I'll see much better overall and
will feel quite silly about putting it off .

jim d
William Stacy, O.D. - 16 Feb 2008 08:29 GMT
You have just the right attitude.  My advice is to seek out the best
surgeon you can find (the one who does at least several cataracts per
week, and the one who won't insist that you get multifocal or "focusing"
IOLs.)  Stay away from those.  Have your surgeon shoot for about -.50 on
the first eye, then -0.12 or -0.25 on the second.  I got Technis prolate
 optics (corrected for spherical aberration) and love them. You will
probably have better vision post op than you have *ever* had in your life.

w.stacy, o.d.

> eye reply
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Jim - 16 Feb 2008 21:02 GMT
> You have just the right attitude.  My advice is to seek out the best
> surgeon you can find (the one who does at least several cataracts per
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> w.stacy, o.d.

Thanks for the advice.  

Would the purpose of the -.50 be to move the focus distance in a bit,
make it arms length or a bit less ... or .. is that a safety margin so
that i don't end up with my eye focusing from, say, 6 feet and out ?

Perhaps you could elaborate ?

I have no doubt I'll be real happy once I take the plunge, but I want to
be as informed as can be going in.  I'm actually lucky that I didn't do
this 2 years ago when I was first really considering it. At that time I
had my heart set on multifocals. Sure, they might have been fine, then
again maybe not.  

At this point I'm looking at normal IOL's, just need to decide if I want
to do something other than focus at distance, and the risks associated
with that.  

jim d
William Stacy, O.D. - 18 Feb 2008 02:40 GMT
More the safety margin.  You do not want to end up hyperopic after cat.
surg., because then there is no distance that you can see clearly
without glasses.  But also, you're used to being myopic, and you might
miss it.  A little myopia is a good thing, esp. for those of us over 40
years of age.

Re multifocals, my big objection is that at least half of the light
entering your eye from any distance is significantly out of focus.  If
glasses are absolutely abhorrent to you, you might go for that mess, but
I wouldn't, and I think most older people would prefer the sharpness of
single vision IOLs, even if it means some reliance on glasses.

If you ever plan on driving at night, multifocal IOLs are the worst idea
of all.

w.stacy, o.d.

> Would the purpose of the -.50 be to move the focus distance in a bit,
> make it arms length or a bit less ... or .. is that a safety margin so
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> jim d
David Robins, MD - 18 Feb 2008 06:38 GMT
In lifelong myopic pts, esp if they are older and more concerned with
in-the-house vision without glasses than driving/golfing without glasses, I
tend to go even a little more myopic - 0.75, sometimes even -1.00 if they
like cooking, etc without glasses. Unlike some, I don't knee-jerk aim for
plano (zero) as my standard for everyone.

Some of it is the safety margin you mention - I always aim a bit myopic
(-0.25 to -0.50). One reason I seldom aim for zero like a lot of surgeons do
- they don't realize the standard deviation of their outcomes. I recalculate
mine frequently, and despite immersion A-scan or IOL-Master, it is about +/-
0.5D - 0.6D, which I understand is pretty standard. Of course, there are
those who may be more than 1 S.D. off, esp if they have very short or very
long eyes, or have had LASIK.

PS. Don't get me started on IOL calculation after LASIK - this is an
epidemic that is just starting, and it is fraught with uncertainty, despite
using Pentacam measurement and using multiple formulas, etc.

David Robins, MD
Board certified Ophthalmologist
Pediatric ophthalmology and adult strabismus subspecialty

On 2/17/08 6:43 PM, in article dd6uj.900$pl4.450@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net,

> More the safety margin.  You do not want to end up hyperopic after cat.
> surg., because then there is no distance that you can see clearly
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>> jim d
otisbrown@embarqmail.com - 18 Feb 2008 15:43 GMT
Dear Dr. Robins,

Your opinion on their visual acuity.

What a "target" of -3/4 to -1 diopters (after IOL) would you say that
there visual acuity is in the range of 20/40 or better.

Or would you say a target of -1/2 diopter would provide VA of
20/40, i.e., naked eye vision required to pass the DMV test.

I am considering catarack surgery, and I think I would prefer
clear distant vision, and the use of the plus for near.

Also, how "bad" does your vision have to be for the surgeon
to autorize surgery (i.e., medicade payment)?

Thanks,

Otis

> In lifelong myopic pts, esp if they are older and more concerned with
> in-the-house vision without glasses than driving/golfing without glasses, I
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Jim - 18 Feb 2008 20:46 GMT
> Also, how "bad" does your vision have to be for the surgeon
> to autorize surgery (i.e., medicade payment)?

Otis,

I'm not one of the experts ( doctors ) here, I asked the original
question, but still your comments interested me.

My vision is failing in a way that they can't correct with lenses.
Smallish cataracts dead in the center of my pupils. The many and weird
things I see ( and can't see ) are too creepy to talk about. The worst
being ghost images. Luckily that isn't happening a lot now, but if it
starts again, I'm off to the eye surgeon right away. I'm really far past
when I should have had mine taken care of.

In the mean time, I am learning what I can and mentally preparing
myself. What I've found out here about possibly having them " focused "
slightly nearsighted will probably let me end up a lot happier than if I
just said... eh, do whatever. I live indoors. I work indoors. I've been
nearsighted my whole life, and I'm used to it ;-)

My dad ( 76 ) just had his eyes done. The reason was he wouldn't have
been able to pass the drivers exam anymore, glasses or no.

jim d
otisbrown@embarqmail.com - 18 Feb 2008 15:53 GMT
Dear Dr. Robins,

Subject:  How does an ophthamologist determine when
cataract surgery is required (medicade payment)?

1.  Your judgment on the resultant visual acuity.

With a "target" of -3/4 to -1 diopters (after IOL) would you say that
there visual acuity would be in the range of 20/40 or better?

Or would you say a target of -1/2 diopter would provide VA of
20/40, i.e., naked eye vision required to pass the DMV test,
of reading 3/4 inches letters at 20 feet.

2.  Conditions for authorizing cadaract surgery.

I am nearsighed, and look forward to "clearing" my vision
with the IOL.  But I know that can not be the
reason for cataract surgery.

I think I would prefer
clear distant vision, and the use of the plus for near.

Also, how "bad" does your vision have to be for the surgeon
to authorize surgery (i.e., medicade payment)?

Thanks for your opinion and judgment.

Otis

> In lifelong myopic pts, esp if they are older and more concerned with
> in-the-house vision without glasses than driving/golfing without glasses, I
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David Robins, MD - 19 Feb 2008 03:36 GMT
On 2/18/08 7:53 AM, in article
6d7d1111-6747-417b-973f-7461ddf7c7dd@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com,

> Dear Dr. Robins,
>
> Subject:  How does an ophthamologist determine when
> cataract surgery is required (medicade payment)?

Used to be one had to have 20/50 or worse vision, and they would investiate
the surgeon if that was not the case. Now, it is when visual symptoms are
significant enough to bother the patient. Glare, for example, or multiple
images, can be significant, yet not show up as meaureable on the eye chart.
Visual symptoms just have to be documented.

Really, it is the patient, not the doctor, who determines when it is time to
operate. Basically, by talking to the patient. What the cataract looks like,
or what the eyechart vision is, in a dark room, does not determine it. Of
course, the decreased vision needs be due to the cataract to recommend
operating. I have seen clear lenses emoved for decreased vision, when it was
clearly the macular degeneration that was the problem, not a cataract.

> 1.  Your judgment on the resultant visual acuity.
>
> With a "target" of -3/4 to -1 diopters (after IOL) would you say that
> there visual acuity would be in the range of 20/40 or better?

-1.00 would probably not give you 20/40, whereas -0.75 might. It is
individual, however, partly due to pupil size, etc.

> Or would you say a target of -1/2 diopter would provide VA of
> 20/40, i.e., naked eye vision required to pass the DMV test,
> of reading 3/4 inches letters at 20 feet.

-0.50 most like would pass the 20/40 test.

> 2.  Conditions for authorizing cadaract surgery.
>
> I am nearsighed, and look forward to "clearing" my vision
> with the IOL.  But I know that can not be the
> reason for cataract surgery.

Reason for surgery general has to be an impact on the patient that is
bothering them to the point that they feel they need surgery, or impacting
their driving, etc. However, I do not deal with MediCare and I don't deal
with insurance companies since I work at Kaiser, so I don't know how strict
or picky they get elsewhere. At Kaiser, there is little government oversight
of the doctor-patient interaction. Therefore, we generally do what seems to
be in the patient's best interest.

>  I think I would prefer
> clear distant vision, and the use of the plus for near.
>
> Also, how "bad" does your vision have to be for the surgeon
> to authorize surgery (i.e., medicade payment)?

See above.

> Thanks for your opinion and judgment.
>
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otisbrown@embarqmail.com - 19 Feb 2008 05:12 GMT
Dear Dr. Robins,

Thanks for your kind review.  The information is
of considerable value to me.

Sincerely,

Otis

> On 2/18/08 7:53 AM, in article
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Dan Abel - 15 Feb 2008 05:08 GMT
> i'm coming up to having cataract surgery in the not so distant future,
> and so am reading a lot here. It's something I'll have to do eventually,
> but it is a scary thing.
>
> other than that, I don't have anything to say.

That's actually quite a lot.  From my own personal experience (I've had
both eyes done, five years apart), the more I learned, the better I felt
about the whole thing.  I talked to people at work, friends, my OD and
of course, the surgeon who was going to do it.  All contributed good
information, although the final word was from the surgeon.  Pay
particular attention to Bev's advice about what power to get.  If you
appear unknowledgeable about the procedure or unaware of your options,
the doctor will often just chose this for you.  You will have the
benefit of the surgeon's experience with many patients, but as with many
things related to vision correction, it has a lot to do with personal
preference.  The big difference is that if you don't like your glasses
or corrects, you can just get new ones.  Once the cataract surgery is
over, there is no tweaking.  Any change requires a complete new surgery,
and doctors are reluctant to do these.  Worse yet, although cataract
surgery is covered by many insurance plans, once it is done, the
cataract is fixed, and any further surgery for vision correction is
often not covered by insurance.

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Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
dabel@sonic.net

otisbrown@embarqmail.com - 15 Feb 2008 13:29 GMT
Dear Jim,

I am in the same "boat" you are in.

All surgery is risky.  It would be good if you know some
people who have had the sugery -- and the results.
It is true that some are better than others.

It is necessary, and if the internal lens power is chosen
correctly, it truly does "correct" nearsightedness.

Please keep on posting your thoughts -- we would
all be interested in your experience.

Best,

Otis

> i'm coming up to having cataract surgery in the not so distant future,
> and so am reading a lot here. It's something I'll have to do eventually,
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MadStamper - 19 Feb 2008 05:33 GMT
> GUEST wrote
> i'm coming up to having cataract surgery in the not so distan
future,
> and so am reading a lot here. It's something I'll have to d
eventually,
> but it is a scary thing.
>
> other than that, I don't have anything to say.
>
> .

Hi Jim, I'm 32 and had my second cataract surgery jus
last month and found your post when I was doing a search on bifoca
glasses.  Sounds like you are getting some great advice here that
wish I had known about when I went in for my first cataract surger
several years ago.  Neither my retinologist who referred me to th
ophthamologist who performed the first surgery never discussed th
options for my nearer vision, and my current ophth chose an implan
that matched the first one so I am stuck with needing +2.5 ~+2.7
readers

I've been nearsighted all my life (as the inflammation and cataract i
my 'reading eye' got worse I joked that I read by smell because of ho
close I had to hold things to be able to read them :) ) -- as
result, since my second surgery it's been pretty frustrating to hav
to run get my reading glasses to cook following a recipe, use th
remote control for the DVD player, read the Get Fuzzy page-a-da
calendar on my way out the door to work, etc.  Even slicing produc
needs the reading glasses.  Don't get me wrong, having to use readin
glasses is *vastly* preferable to being blind!!  I've just gotten ver
used to being able to see and read whatever I want if I only get clos
enough to it, and making the change to the opposite is a littl
uncomfortable

I definitely know what you mean about the prospect of surgery bein
scary.  One way of trying to minimise this for you would be to as
your doc to walk you through the day of surgery and the followin
day, what to expect the following week, etc.  I can post some inf
about my two surgeries, if you would find that helpful
Jim - 19 Feb 2008 15:11 GMT
> I can post some info
> about my two surgeries, if you would find that helpful.

Absolutely. I'd love to hear about them

jim d
MadStamper - 25 Feb 2008 01:10 GMT
> > (MadStamper) wrote
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> jim

My first surgery was done in Canada on the left eye some time ago
maybe back in 2002 or so.  That one was performed by a
opththamologist at one of the local hospitals.  I had the usual n
food, drink, or oral medications after midnight of the previou
evening rule.  I remember the day of, the anaesthesiologist spoke t
me asking about previous sedatives I had used, and it's possibl
based on my responses and my retinologist's advice the anaes. chos
to use ativan as the general sedative for me.  I know he definitel
used ativan, but I'm not sure if that is just the sedative he woul
have used anyways, or if I was a special case.

Once the nurse started to prep me for surgery, one of the first thing
they did was put in an IV line to a bag of saline solution to hydrat
me.  I really don't remember too much else except that they put
sheet of special paper towel over my face with a little adhesive hol
to tape around the eye they operated on.  No idea how they kept tha
eye open, but it didn't hurt.  I was pretty much stone blind in tha
eye at the time so I didn't see much except the light in th
operating room.  After the surgery, they wheeled my gurney to
little curtain cubicle to lie down for a while and drink some juice.
Then they got me up and dressed, and I sat in a day-surgery recove
room full of la-z-boy recliners and all the other cataract surger
patients and ate a sandwich they brought.  :

My second surgery was a whole other ball of wax.  In addition to th
potential complications I faced in the first surgery, I also had
few senechia (sp??) which are points at which my iris had scarre
onto my lens.  My doctor explained that the cataract was encase
within a very fragile sac.  My iris was scarred onto that sac and i
was possible the sac might have torn open as the doctor cut th
senechia away.  The doc then cut a small slice in the sa
through which they extracted the cataract; this was another point i
the procedure where the sac could have torn open.  If that ha
happened, the cataract would have fallen into the eye, and I woul
have been referred to a retinologist to have a vitrectomy performe
to remove the loose cataract within the week.  This was al
information my doc told me in the pre-operation consultation one wee
before the surgery.  During the consultation, we also discussed how t
deal with other health issues (I have some unique immune issues tha
needed to be addressed), and I asked when my vision would stabilis
so I could get new glasses (~6 weeks) and what kinds of physica
constraints I had post-operation (no lifting, no exertion, no bendin
such that the head is below the waist for ten days after the surgery)

The procedure was performed by my ophthamologist (at Scott & Whit
in Texas) whom I know pretty well and have seen many times.  This wa
at a S&W clinic and not a full-on hospital like my first surgery
My husband and I waited together in the waiting room, then the nurs
called for me eventually and both me and my husband went back to
semi-private hospital room with a gurney, a couple of chairs, cabl
TV, and a shared bathroom.  I had to change into one of thos
tie-shut hospital gown things and remove all jewelry and clothin
from the waist up, and wear one of those elasticised paper hats t
keep my hair contained.  They let you keep your pants and socks o
and such, they just don't want you wearing anything near where the
will be operating.  The nurse gave me a big plastic bag to put m
things in that she would put in a locker.  Then she went through al
the consent paperwork with me,  I was very glad my husband was wit
me because I was not able to read very well, so he was able to mak
sure I understood what it was I was signing before I put my signatur
on the consent forms.  Then the nurse quadruple-checked that I hadn'
eaten or drunk anything, asked what kind of eyedrops I had put i
that eye that day, and got me to put an X with a grease pencil next
to the eye to be operated on.

After that, the same nurse got me set up on the gurney lying down,
inserted the IV, and put three different types of super-dilating
eyedrops in my right eye.  She applied topical anaesthetic to the
skin before inserting the IV and it was all pretty painless, but then
after maybe ten minutes it really started to ache so I let her know,
and she double-checked the needle and said it was most likely the
topical anaesthetic wearing off.  Before she gave me the dilating
drops, she gave me a freezing eyedrop first (because dilating drops
**sting**) and thank heavens that freezing didn't wear off before the
stinging effect of the other drops went away. :)  

Two members of the operating team came in to check on me, and the
anaesthesiologist asked about allergies, etc.  I found out from him
that he was going to use a barbituate to sedate me during the
surgery.  I personally don't like barbituates and asked him if he
would consider using ativan instead, but he said the barbituate was
the only option  because it sedates sufficiently for the surgery and
then wears off very quickly, whereas ativan hangs around for hours
and hours.  I personally don't mind so much being under the effects
of a gentle sedative for the hours following a minor surgery :), but
I can see how the clinic would prefer not to have to deal with a
bunch of patients sitting around recovering for that long.  

I got wheeled into the operating room and my husband was sent off to
the public waiting room.  At this point I was pretty alert, and
everyone introduced themselves to me (anaesthesiologist plus
assistant, doctor plus two assistants).  Then the barbituates were
administered and they started the surgery.  I was knocked absolutely
out cold for about one minute (by design), tho not before I saw the
hazy image of my doctor leaning over my head with a scalpel coming
towards my eye.  :)  My doctor said he made about six incisions I
think, and my eyelashes were getting stuck in one of them so he
yanked out three or four at once to remove the ones that were poking
into the wound.  After being sedated a little while, my eyes started
to roll back into my head.  I wasn't aware of this, but I do remember
my doctor instructing me to keep looking at my toes several times.  

By the time they wheeled me out of the operating room, I was fairly
conscious again, enough where my doctor was making conversation with
me and getting semi-coherent responses.  I was wheeled into a little
curtained room and the same nurse came back and monitored my recovery
from the sedative and got me something to drink.  I had a hard plastic
eyepatch taped over my eye that I needed to keep on until the next
morning I think.  They also called my husband into the room, and he
helped me get dressed.  I had to be wheelchaired to our car, and
there was a kit of eyedrops, some medical tape, an instruction sheet,
and some sunglasses in a bag for me at the check-in desk.  I was
adviced I could take ibuprofen to deal with the ache, but if anything
like sharp pain in the eye or discharge started oozing from the eye, I
was to call the doctor ASAP.  I had to put four different types of
drops in four times a day for one week, with ~5 minutes between each
drop so they could be absorbed.  There was an antibacterial, an
antiinflammatory that targeted the retina, a prednisolone steroid
drop to treat inflammation in the front of the eye, and I can't for
the life of me remember what that fourth drop was for.  Then after
that I was done with the retinal antiinflammatory and for the
remaining three weeks I had to put in three different eyedrops four
times a day.  I asked my husband to administer the drops for me for
the rest of the day of my surgery because I was in such discomfort I
didn't want to do it myself.  I'm sure I could have in a pinch, but I
didn't want to.  For the rest of the day I didn't do too much.  I kept
the plastic patch on that whole day and that night, and wore the
eyepatch every night until ten days post-op.  It can be hard to
remember to put the patch on, so I got in the habit of putting it on
my pillow every morning so I would remember to put it on that night.

The next morning I had a follow-up appointment that my husband drove
me to, and then had another followup one week post-surgery, and a
final follow-up four weeks post-surgery where they tested my vision
and gave me a new glasses prescription.  

Now, my list of Things I Wish They Told Me Before My First Eye Surgery
and This Surgery:

1. You can't shower for 24 hours after the surgery.  I made sure I
showered just before going for surgery. :)

2.  We knew that I wouldn't be out of the clinic before 2 pm, so my
husband made sure I had a good sized snack at about 11:30 the night
before so I wouldn't be totally starving the next day.

3.  If you are a regular coffee drinker, you will get a caffiene
withdrawal headache during the fast and you will just have to live
with it.

4.  The appointment the following morning was casually mentioned to us
on our way out -- while I had taken the rest of the week off, my
husband had to make last-minute arrangements to get time off work to
drive me to that appointment.  So be aware you might need a driver
the next morning.

5.  While we had planned for the copay on the surgery, we hadn't
expected the antibacterial eyedrop to cost so danged much.  In the
kit, we got plenty of all of the eyedrops except for the
antibacterial one, for which we only received a week's supply.  We
had to get a refill on that eyedrop and it turns out that the best
antibacterial eyedrop on the market doesn't have a generic yet, and
there are no substitutions my doctor would accept, so we wound up
paying a $75 copay for it instead of $5 or $10.  

6.  Operating rooms tend to be on the cool side, so wear warm socks.
:)  They do have extra blankets in the OR, but I find nothing beats a
pair of good socks.

7.  You may need to talk yourself out of doing any and all lifting for
the first ten days.  I know I caught myself several times a day about
to move something quite manageable, and I had to ask for help doing
it which goes against my nature.  But, it is very important to follow
the doctor's directions regarding no lifting or bending.
Dan Abel - 20 Feb 2008 10:46 GMT
> Hi Jim, I'm 32 and had my second cataract surgery just
> last month and found your post when I was doing a search on bifocal
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> that matched the first one so I am stuck with needing +2.5 ~+2.75
> readers .

It's too bad it wasn't discussed, in detail.  Much of this could have to
do with your optometrist, if you are in the US.  

> I've been nearsighted all my life (as the inflammation and cataract in
> my 'reading eye' got worse I joked that I read by smell because of how
> close I had to hold things to be able to read them :) ) -- as a

If you were used to having one eye for reading and the other for
distance, that could have easily been done.  As it is, if that is your
desire, contacts might work for that.  

If you want to use both eyes together, and don't want to spend a lot of
time putting on reading glasses and then taking them off, there are
glasses that will do this.  Most people who have had cataract surgery
find that bifocals don't let them see at all distances.  Most of these
people need at least three different corrections, distance, mid-range
and reading.  If you choose distance and mid-range, then I would predict
that you could get by seeing the remote control and cutting the produce.  
Any kind of fine print would be hard, and would cause eye strain in many
people if used for a long time.  Some people use lined trifocals, which
give all three.  Some use progressives, which theoretically give an
infinite number of corrections, but some people hate them.

My choice was to get my vision set for distance.  I'm pretty happy with
that.  I have three pairs of reading glasses, and use all three.  The
+1.75 work for computer use and large print (a standard book).  The
+2.25 work for finer print, like newspapers and paperback books.  The
+2.75 are for tiny print, like pill bottles.

> result, since my second surgery it's been pretty frustrating to have
> to run get my reading glasses to cook following a recipe, use the
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> enough to it, and making the change to the opposite is a little
> uncomfortable.

Having cataract surgery is a compromise.  Something gets lost.  Most of
us having cataract surgery are older, and the eyes already lost some or
all of the ability to focus near and far.  At your age, you may have
lost a lot more.

> I definitely know what you mean about the prospect of surgery being
> scary.  One way of trying to minimise this for you would be to ask
> your doc to walk you through the day of surgery and the following
> day, what to expect the following week, etc.  I can post some info
> about my two surgeries, if you would find that helpful.

Anything new is going to be scary, especially when it involves surgery
to the eyes.  We all tend to protect our eyes a lot.  Still, the most
dangerous part of the surgery is the drive down there.  There are a
million cataract surgeries done every year in the US.  The doctors have
it down.  It's good to talk to people who've had it done, and read
accounts.  Still, each doctor does pre op, surgery and post op a little
differently.  After my first surgery, my wife and I went out to lunch
together.  I felt fine.  I could not drive, due to the tranquilizers I
had been given.

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The Real Bev - 20 Feb 2008 23:49 GMT
> My choice was to get my vision set for distance.  I'm pretty happy with
> that.  I have three pairs of reading glasses, and use all three.  The
> +1.75 work for computer use and large print (a standard book).  The
> +2.25 work for finer print, like newspapers and paperback books.  The
> +2.75 are for tiny print, like pill bottles.

And what's neat about this is that the readers from the 99-Cents-Only
store are very good and very cheap -- buy 'em by the dozen!

> Anything new is going to be scary, especially when it involves surgery
> to the eyes.  We all tend to protect our eyes a lot.  Still, the most
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> together.  I felt fine.  I could not drive, due to the tranquilizers I
> had been given.

I once found on the web a movie of a "typical" cataract operation.  It
might or might not be good to watch such a thing, depending on how
squamish you are.

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Dan Abel - 21 Feb 2008 03:03 GMT
> > My choice was to get my vision set for distance.  I'm pretty happy with
> > that.  I have three pairs of reading glasses, and use all three.  The
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> And what's neat about this is that the readers from the 99-Cents-Only
> store are very good and very cheap -- buy 'em by the dozen!

I only buy the highest quality reading glasses.  I pay US$18.99 for
three pairs at Costco.

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The Real Bev - 21 Feb 2008 23:52 GMT
>> > My choice was to get my vision set for distance.  I'm pretty happy with
>> > that.  I have three pairs of reading glasses, and use all three.  The
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> I only buy the highest quality reading glasses.  I pay US$18.99 for
> three pairs at Costco.

The problem with those is that you can't try them on first.  I have
nose-comfort issues, and I think you can only get three of the same size...

I bought some [real or fake, who cares?] Ray-Bans for 99 cents.  Most of
their glasses look as good as what you'd buy at the drugstore for $10-20
(or computer swap meets for $5), including the imitation Oakley M-frame
sunglasses (not counterfeit, just nameless lookalikes) which I love.

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otisbrown@embarqmail.com - 19 Feb 2008 05:44 GMT
Dear Jim,

Dr. Robins information is excellent.  Here is a site
that reviews some of these details

http://www.tecnisiol.com/

Otis

> i'm coming up to having cataract surgery in the not so distant future,
> and so am reading a lot here. It's something I'll have to do eventually,
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>
> .
Jim - 19 Feb 2008 15:11 GMT
> Dear Jim,
>
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> Otis

Thanks a lot.

jim d

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