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taking Lutein and Beta-Carotene together:  why not?

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Herbert.Kocks@gmail.com - 06 Feb 2008 03:59 GMT
"Macular Degeneration" by Drs. Mogk advises cryptically and
parenthetically on page 116 (Jan 2003) that one take Lutein
"at a different time from Beta-Carotene."   Can anyone explain
the reason for this separation in time?  It is remarkable that
eye vitamins on the market contain both Lutein and Beta-Carotene
in the same capsule.

Thanks in advance,
Herbert
Dr. Leukoma - 06 Feb 2008 04:04 GMT
On Feb 5, 9:59 pm, Herbert.Ko...@gmail.com wrote:
> "Macular Degeneration" by Drs. Mogk advises cryptically and
> parenthetically on page 116 (Jan 2003) that one take Lutein
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thanks in advance,
> Herbert

....because they compete with each other for absorption.
Herbert.Kocks@gmail.com - 06 Feb 2008 18:28 GMT
> On Feb 5, 9:59 pm, Herbert.Ko...@gmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> ....because they compete with each other for absorption.

Dr. Leukoma,
by "compete" do you mean to say that if one swallowed a molecule
of Lutein and a molecule of Beta-Carotene together that only one
molecule would be absorbed?  Or is it that they combine into something
inert and useless?  Can you cite any germane studies or
publications?
Thanks again!
Dr. Leukoma - 06 Feb 2008 20:31 GMT
On Feb 6, 12:28 pm, Herbert.Ko...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dr. Leukoma,
> by "compete" do you mean to say that if one swallowed a molecule
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> publications?
> Thanks again!

By 'compete' I mean dilution.  If you really want the lutein and not
the beta-carotene because beta-carotene is not found in the eye, then
you don't want to dilute the lutein available for absorption with
something that will compete with it.  That's pretty much all I know,
which isn't much.
spammer - 08 Feb 2008 00:16 GMT
> By 'compete' I mean dilution.  If you really want the lutein and not
> the beta-carotene because beta-carotene is not found in the eye, then
> you don't want to dilute the lutein available for absorption with
> something that will compete with it.  That's pretty much all I know,
> which isn't much.

    If beta-carotene is not found in the eyes, why is it touted for
the health of the eyes?
Dr. Leukoma - 08 Feb 2008 05:25 GMT
>      If beta-carotene is not found in the eyes, why is it touted for
> the health of the eyes?

Beta-carotene as a provitamin can be converted to retinal and then to
retinoic acid where it participates in the function of the
photoreceptors, i.e. rods and cones.  Lutein may act as a free-radical
scavenging agent within the retina, thereby possibly offering some
protection against the effects of UV radiation.  Thefore, while
vitamin A is necessary for the proper function of the rods and cones,
lutein may actually extend the life of the macula.
spammer - 09 Feb 2008 01:23 GMT
> >      If beta-carotene is not found in the eyes, why is it touted for
> > the health of the eyes?
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> vitamin A is necessary for the proper function of the rods and cones,
> lutein may actually extend the life of the macula.

     Had a feeling it was a chemical conversion thing, thanks for the
clarification.
 
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