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Jim Hilburger - 12 Dec 2007 14:11 GMT
Hi,
  I had lasik performed on my eyes about 2 months ago to correct
nearsightedness. After reading the Lasik Report, I would agree
I made a mistake. I now have high order aberrations (glare, night time/
low light problems) and my visual acuity is not as good as it was with
my glasses. Is there any possibly that my visual acuity(night time and
low light) will improve in 3, 6  or 12 months or do I have to get a
second and third opinion from other ophthalmologist's to find out if my
lasik vision problems can be corrected. I am concerned, there are
millions of people that have had lasik done, there must be some success
stories. I went to a lasik surgeon that "advertised " performing over
50,000 lasik, lasek and prk surgeries and has a  list of educational and
professional affiliation's. If anyone would like to comment on the Lasik
Report or my situation, please do.

Jim
RT - 12 Dec 2007 15:01 GMT
> Hi,
>    I had lasik performed on my eyes about 2 months ago to correct
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>
> Jim

There are millions of LASIK success stories. Remember that you just had
a traumatic procedure done on your eyes. Your corneas were CUT open and
part of them LASERED OFF. Your eyes need time to heal. Whereas after
back surgery, you would easily agree that one can expect a few months of
pain/discomfort and swelling. What most people don't seem to realize is
that with LASIK you can also expect swelling. Your eyes might not hurt,
but the symptoms of edema are exactly what you describe (glare, night
time/low light problems). It's normal. I had those symptoms for several
months, but they went away.

Also, it's common to experience some level of dry eyes for a few months
after the procedure as your eyes heal and your nerves regenerate and
that can make things look out of focus and cause glare. Do things clear
up after you put in drops?

Are you calling your "glare, night time/low light problems" high order
aberrations because that's what the LASIK report calls them or because
you've had them measured at your ophthalmologist's office? The Lasik
Report's purpose is to scare as many people as possible out of having
the procedure done by doing exactly what they've done to you, taking
expected recovery responses and describing them as serious
complications. You cannot walk into a LASIK office and expect everything
thing to be over in 10 minutes. It's more like a several month process
for your eyes to heal and recover. You just had them sliced open!!!
LASIK advertising conceals this fact, so you're not to blame for
thinking that. But The Lasik Report wants you to think you have
permanently damaged your eyes and makes people, like you in the middle
of the healing and recovery process, unnecessarily scared over something
that is most likely part of the normal healing process.

It is always possible that the procedure didn't get it right the first
time (everyone heals differently so there's always some variable).
Sometimes a follow-up procedure called an "enhancement" is done. But
it's too early to know if you will need that. You still have a lot of
healing to do. Make sure you go to your regularly scheduled appointments
and call the office if you have any questions.

Remember, LASIK is supposed to reduce dependance on your glasses, not to
guarantee that you will see as well as you did with your glasses on
before the procedure. LASIK providers cannot guarantee 20/20 outcome.

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spammer - 13 Dec 2007 00:44 GMT
> Hi,
>    I had lasik performed on my eyes about 2 months ago to correct
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>
> Jim

  That so called "lasik report" is a total fabrication. It's made up
by a couple of very mentally ill people.
Listen to your doctor, not some idiot on the internet and YOU WILL DO
JUST FINE.
a.ziffel8@yahoo.com - 14 Dec 2007 20:02 GMT
On Dec 12, 7:44 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 12, 9:11 am, Jim Hilburger <opn...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Welcome to the large club of injured lasik victims,bet they sold it to
you like a haircut.
Spammer is the mentally ill one here and will soon attack you for
exposing the truth about his dirty little scam of lasik.
You may improve with time and maybe not,it is a roll of the dice. The
"salesman" will not give you the full truth,he just wants a sale.
With a 12 month statute in many states,surgeons have been known to
lead you on to get past the date. Other opthalmologists tend to cover
for their buddies also,so a local second opinion would likely be
skewed anyway.
Best of luck in your recovery.
By the way,the "idiot" above is involved in the lasik industry. He
cannot,nor does he care to,see past the dollar sign. It is his
obsession to attack complication victims in an attempt to discredit.
If you have high order aberrations you should have it measured to find
out just how bad these distortions are. It is common after lasik.(no
matter what the sales pitch said) Some must wear contacts to correct
the distortions created by lasering. That is,if you can manage it with
having dryer eyes since that is usually the case after corneal nerves
have been sliced interfering with signals telling the brain to produce
tears.
Noone need to tell you,if it's bad,their is no denieing to yourself
that you made a mistake. It was however not your fault that patients
are routinely lied to. The industry is based on premises ranging from
half-truths to outright lies.
Hang in there Jim. Warn your family and friends.
Glenn Hagele - USAEyes.org - 14 Dec 2007 23:03 GMT
>Hi,
>   I had lasik performed on my eyes about 2 months ago to correct
>nearsightedness.

> I now have high order aberrations (glare, night time/
>low light problems) and my visual acuity is not as good as it was with
>my glasses.

Lasik is often more of a six-month process than a 20-Minute Miracle.
If you had nigh myopia (nearsighted, shortsighted) vision then the
symptoms you describe are not unusual. The cornea takes time to heal
and large corrections often induce artifacts in the first few months.

Even a small amount of corneal edema (inflammation) can cause the
symptoms you describe. Lasik induced temporary dry eye can cause the
symptoms you describe or exacerbate other issues, contributing to the
vision problems you currently experience.

>Is there any possibly that my visual acuity(night time and
>low light) will improve in 3, 6  or 12 months

Our organization's Quality Standards Advisory Committee reviewed
several peer-review studies, the FDA clinical trials, and the
experience of thousands of patients to determine that at six months
postop about 3% of patients have some sort of unresolved complication,
with about 0.5% being serious complications that require extensive
management or invasive correction. Dry eye is the most prevalent
reported complication.

> or do I have to get a
>second and third opinion from other ophthalmologist's to find out if my
>lasik vision problems can be corrected.

You may want to seek a second opinion to give you the peace of mind
that you are in the normal healing process, but don't be surprised if
you are told it is too soon after surgery to come to any conclusions.

> I am concerned, there are
>millions of people that have had lasik done, there must be some success
>stories.

The vast majority.

>I went to a lasik surgeon that "advertised " performing over
>50,000 lasik, lasek and prk surgeries and has a  list of educational and
>professional affiliation's.

The best asset is a knowledgeable surgeon. It appears that you have
selected wisely, but it is true that even the very best doctors have
undesired outcomes. That is not to scare you in particular, but to
remind others considering surgery that there really are no guarantees.

>If anyone would like to comment on the Lasik
>Report or my situation, please do.

This document, while appearing to be researched with citations to
other articles, is a gross manipulation of the studies and reports it
cites. As an example, the Lasik Report states:

"There are permanent adverse effects of LASIK in 100% of cases, even
in the absence of clinically significant complications."

This is patently false. Think about all the people who are thrilled
with their Lasik.

The Lasik Report was created by Lauranell Burch and Paula Cofer, both
of whom are included in a court restraining order because of acts
against me and Lauranell Burch is being sued for publishing my
personal identity - including Social Security number - on websites she
controls.

http://www.GlennHagele.com/LauranellBurch/

Although the conclusions of the Lasik Report are near total fantasy,
that does not mean that Lasik is not without risk. Each of the studies
and reports cited in the Lasik Report are valid, but when taken out of
context can be manipulated into something they are not.

Whether or not you have "made a mistake" is too early to tell. Waaay
too early to tell.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes (R)
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification

"Consider and Choose With Confidence" (TM)

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org

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http://www.USAEyes.org/Ask-Lasik-Expert/

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