> I have been wearing progressive lenses (Varilux Panamic) for about
>six years.
You've implied below that these are the original lenses. That's a long time
between Rx changes. In general, if your Add power is less than +2.00, there will
be a larger than normal change in Rx. You'll find the glasses will have to do
more of the focusing, restricting the near vertical and horizontal field of
vision, resulting in a period of adaptation that may be moderate to significant.
Even if the Add power is already in the +2.25 to +2.50 range, changes in the
distance Rx (less plus or more minus) can play havoc with the intermediate
vision (22" to 40").
I would recommend changing the lenses more often, unless the RX is stable.
>They are mounted in titanium frames and are in perfect
>condition - not a scratch.
Good job. Proper care and some luck goes a long way.
>I wear them for everything from sport
>shooting to reading as well as computer work.
Ask about computer glasses if you're in front of a desktop monitor for extended
periods of time.
> I want to get another pair for backup, or maybe keep my current
>glasses for backup. To be honest, I don't care what they cost; I want
>the best lenses that I can get.
You might benefit from lens designs that use direct-to-surface free-form
technology (the lens surface, not the mold), especially if the Add or distance
Rx is strong, changes in Rx that are moderate to large, the lenses rest
unusually close or far from the eyes, or if you are sensitive to visual changes
in general. Some of the best are made by Hoya and Zeiss.
>I also need a scratch resistant lens
>or lens coating. I don't give a hoot if anyone sees glare on my
>glasses, I want whatever give me the best vision.
Anti-reflective coated lenses provide the best vision. The cosmetic improvement
is a bonus.
> TIA
Hope this helps,
Robert Martellaro
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Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
Wauwatosa Wi.
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"Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself."
- Richard Feynman
> I have been wearing progressive lenses (Varilux Panamic) for about
> six years. They are mounted in titanium frames and are in perfect
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>
> TIA
Probably the Hoya Id, with their Super I-Vision AR Coat. But it would be
best to post your exact Rx (old and new) before acting on any advise.
Ajax - 13 Nov 2007 02:58 GMT
>> I have been wearing progressive lenses (Varilux Panamic) for about
>> six years. They are mounted in titanium frames and are in perfect
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>Probably the Hoya Id, with their Super I-Vision AR Coat. But it would be
>best to post your exact Rx (old and new) before acting on any advise.
D.V O.D +.75 Spherical, -.50 Cylindrical, 105 Axis
D.V O.S +1 Spherical, -.75 Cylindrical, 095 Axis
N.V O.D 1.75 Spherical
NV O.S 1.75 Spherical
Let me know if that helps with your analysis.
Mark A - 13 Nov 2007 05:42 GMT
> D.V O.D +.75 Spherical, -.50 Cylindrical, 105 Axis
> D.V O.S +1 Spherical, -.75 Cylindrical, 095 Axis
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>
> Let me know if that helps with your analysis.
With your relatively moderate Rx the Hoya Id may be overkill because the
lowest index lens material with that lens design is 1.67 index. You didn't
indicate which lens material you currently have with you Panamics (1.50,
polycarb, 1.60, 1.67, etc).
The Zeiss Individual comes in a 1.60 index, which should be plenty thin
enough in your moderate Rx, and better optics than a 1.67 lens.
But if you want a very thin lens, then the Hoya Id is probably the best, but
you will be walking with a limp for a while (your wallet will be a lot
lighter).
Ajax - 13 Nov 2007 15:35 GMT
>> D.V O.D +.75 Spherical, -.50 Cylindrical, 105 Axis
>> D.V O.S +1 Spherical, -.75 Cylindrical, 095 Axis
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>you will be walking with a limp for a while (your wallet will be a lot
>lighter).
I'll be honest, I don't know that materials the lenses are made from.
I can tell you that they appear to be very resistant to scratching
which is what I told the optometrist that I wanted.
I don't need an ultra-thin lens. What I want is the clearest visions
that I can get.
From what I have been reading the Zeiss Gradal and GT2 are very good
lenses. I have long head that Zeiss provides wider mid-range and long
range channels than Panamic. Varilux's Physio 360 also seems to get
good reviews.
How does the Physio 360 rate agains the Gradal or GT2?
Pete
Anon E. Muss - 14 Nov 2007 04:25 GMT
> D.V O.D +.75 Spherical, -.50 Cylindrical, 105 Axis
> D.V O.S +1 Spherical, -.75 Cylindrical, 095 Axis
>
> N.V O.D 1.75 Spherical
> NV O.S 1.75 Spherical
For the very clearest vision, it is hard to beat clear crown glass
with a high-quality AR coat. Unfortunately, glass has disadvantages
too such as weight, impact resistance and not made in many (if any) of
the most modern progressive designs.
Standard CR-39 plastic or TRIVEX is next. That's typically what I
would advise with someone in your Rx. Varilux Physio 360 and Hoya ECP
progressives almost always work well, if progressives will work at
all. I have no experience with the Varilux Ipseo and Hoya id
Lifestyle, but those are reported to be tops too.
As far as A/R coats, I think Hoya's SuperHi Vision, I-Coat's Vivix
Stainless and Essilor's Crizal Alize are tops.
OK, how about this? Panamic lenses with Crizal Alize in CR39.
You are happy with the lenses and have worn them for several years
with no issue. Why change? If you have any problem with your lenses
then you should look at an upgrade, this is why they are designed - to
counter people with issues, not those who are happy.
I was sitting in a conference one day when a friend next to me handed
me his glasses and said "Look at these." I did, and other than the
letters PA and UL under the location marks, I could see nothing
unusual. "Ipseo's?" I said. "Yep" he replied. I asked how he found
them? "There alright" he said rather unemphatically. I was rather
disappointed having spent $3000.00 on the measuring machine a few
weeks earlier. "Don't they have a wider reading field than other
lenses?" I asked. "Oh yeah, twice as wide as anything I have ever
worn, but I am happy in any multifocal."
The point is with the same design, you will be able to swap between
pairs without adaptation issues. There are also some issues with the
aberration filter as this is the average for your prescription, but
not everyone is average. I get a percentage of people not able to see
clearly with Physio 360's, but have great vision when replaced with
Panamic's. If you do opt for the Physio 360 abd there is any issue, at
least the warranty will enable you to switch back to the Panamic.
As far as material, stick with CR39. It is optically the best
material, and other than needing the glasses for industrial purposes,
where Polycarbonate, Trivex and 1.67 are the materials of choice, your
prescription will not be thinner or lighter going for the more
expensive material. Spend that money on a better frame or a new shirt.
Good luck.
dr grant
Ajax - 17 Nov 2007 03:51 GMT
Thank for a very thorough answer. I wanted to upgrade to the Physio
360 because it is claimed to have wider reading and mid-range
channels and there is supposedly less distortion than with Panamics.
If the Physio 360 don't work out, then I'll just go with Panamics.
Everything that I have read about the Physio 360 has been positive so
far.
My wife's optometrist is trying to put her into a Kodak Unique lens.
I have read mixed reviews of this lens with some criticism of the
coatings.
Any thoughts?
TIA
>OK, how about this? Panamic lenses with Crizal Alize in CR39.
>
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>
>dr grant
Mark A - 17 Nov 2007 06:04 GMT
> Thank for a very thorough answer. I wanted to upgrade to the Physio
> 360 because it is claimed to have wider reading and mid-range
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>
> TIA
Wal-Mart Optical sells a slightly modified version of the Varilux Physio 360
under the Nikon brand. It is made by Essilor (which owns the rights to the
Nikon brand name in the USA and also owns Varilux Panamic/Physio). The lens
is also known as the Essilor Accolade Freedom. I believe a pair of these
lenses were about $389.00 in a 1.67 index with crizal alize, which is
substantially less than most people are selling the Varilux Physio 360 for.
Supposedly, Essilor only sells Varilux to independent opticals and OD
offices, but sells the Essilor/Nikon equivalent to the big box stores.
Anon E. Muss - 17 Nov 2007 16:26 GMT
> My wife's optometrist is trying to put her into a Kodak Unique lens.
>I have read mixed reviews of this lens with some criticism of the
>coatings.
>
> Any thoughts?
I have prescribed several Kodak Unique lenses and like everything
about them except the price (i.e., they are very expensive).