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Reading Glasses only from Prescription for Progressives--How do I?

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powrwrap - 27 Oct 2007 18:29 GMT
I have a set of progressive lens with an add of +2.25. I find that
when reading I have to hold the book a little bit closer than I would
like. I would like to hold the book about 6 inches further away and
have the ability to look directly straight ahead through the lenses
and not through the bottom one-third of the lens.

So I guess I'm looking to get a set of reading glasses. The cheapest I
can find them locally is about $25, so I'd probably give one of the
cheap online eyeglass stores a try. I don't think they could screw up
readers.

Is it a simple matter of adjusting the add amount? In which direction
should I adjust and by how much to get my desired results?
otisbrown@pa.net - 27 Oct 2007 22:02 GMT
Dear Power Wrap,

Could you supply us with your current distant prescription?

> I have a set of progressive lens with an add of +2.25. I find that
> when reading I have to hold the book a little bit closer than I would
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Is it a simple matter of adjusting the add amount? In which direction
> should I adjust and by how much to get my desired results?
Neil Brooks - 27 Oct 2007 22:38 GMT
Sorry.  Rishi Giovanni Gatti (Zetsu), Lena102938, and Otis Brown are
trolls who haunt s.m.v.

Rishi has published, and is trying to sell worthless books.

Otis is pathologically dishonest and actually hurts people.
Following his advice can induce double vision in those
not working closely with an eye doctor.  He knows just enough
about vision and eyesight to render him quite dangerous.

Lena102938 uses anti-eye doctor rhetoric as a substitute for ANY
actual information.  It seems she now has to wear glasses and has
developed a pathological (and ILLOGICAL) resentment toward the
industry that "foisted these glasses upon her."

You'd do well to ignore them and wait for responses from the
caring, compassionate eye doctors who DO also participate in this site.
Mark A - 27 Oct 2007 23:32 GMT
>I have a set of progressive lens with an add of +2.25. I find that
> when reading I have to hold the book a little bit closer than I would
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Is it a simple matter of adjusting the add amount? In which direction
> should I adjust and by how much to get my desired results?

Your add power on a progressive is on top of your distance power, so unless
your distance power is plano (plain glass), you will need something other
than +2.25 for readers.

You should not buy reading glasses online unless you know what power is
needed. Go to a discount store where they sell these on a rack and find the
best power for you at the distance you need. If you don't like the reading
glasses at the discount store, then you can order some online with the same
reading power. Trying to guess what power you need is good way to waste
money.

However, most people have at least a slight astigmatism, and off-the-shelf
glasses (non-Rx) cannot correct for this. You should be able to tell whether
you have an astigmatism correction in your current progressives by looking
at the cylinder power and axis (degrees) on your Rx.
powrwrap - 29 Oct 2007 17:32 GMT
> On Oct 27, 5:32 pm, "Mark A" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> You should not buy reading glasses online unless you know what power is
> needed. Go to a discount store where they sell these on a rack and find the
> best power for you at the distance you need.

Yes, I plan on doing this

> However, most people have at least a slight astigmatism, and off-the-shelf
> glasses (non-Rx) cannot correct for this. You should be able to tell whether
> you have an astigmatism correction in your current progressives by looking
> at the cylinder power and axis (degrees) on your Rx.

OD    Cyl    Axis    Prism    Base    Add
-.75    Sph    -         -            -        +2.25

OD    Cyl    Axis    Prism    Base    Add
-.75    Sph    -         -            -        +2.25
Mike Tyner - 28 Oct 2007 01:07 GMT
>I have a set of progressive lens with an add of +2.25. I find that

> Is it a simple matter of adjusting the add amount? In which direction
> should I adjust and by how much to get my desired results?

It should be.

If you're 52+, the +2.25 add should be clearest at about 18" (1/2.25 in
meters).

If you want clearest vision at 24 inches, there's no specific add for that.
+1.75 works out to 22.5" and +1.50 is 26.25. Computers and bulletin boards
and name tags are often further away than 24" and you'd switch glasses for
taking out splinters, so less is probably better than more. I've never seen
a 1.87 add.

Report the right and left distance prescription as they are, with a +1.50
add. Make it crystal clear that you want the rx converted to single-vision
reading glasses.

For idiot-proofing, just add the "add" to the *first* number (sphere) in
each eye and report that as the single-vision rx with the near PD only.

If you want to do that, post your Rx here so we can double-check it for you.

It's simple enough, but ordering online it's best to assume monkeys will be
involved in the process somewhere.

-MT
powrwrap - 29 Oct 2007 17:39 GMT
> On Oct 27, 7:07 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Report the right and left distance prescription as they are, with a +1.50
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> For idiot-proofing, just add the "add" to the *first* number (sphere) in
> each eye and report that as the single-vision rx with the near PD only.

> If you want to do that, post your Rx here so we can double-check it for you.

OK, here it is:

OD    Cyl    Axis    Prism    Base    Add
-.75    Sph    -         -            -        +2.25

OD    Cyl    Axis    Prism    Base    Add
-.75    Sph    -         -            -        +2.25

My pd is 67/64

Note: In the area of the prescription grid for Cylinderal the doctor
wrote either Sph or Sm. It's hard to read his writing. There are no
numbers though.

Obviously I will try on some readers locally to get an idea, but
you're saying I should order single vision glasses with OD and OS of
+1.50 and a pd of 64?
Mike Tyner - 29 Oct 2007 18:03 GMT
> Obviously I will try on some readers locally to get an idea, but
> you're saying I should order single vision glasses with OD and OS of
> +1.50 and a pd of 64?

Make the PD 65 and you have it precisely.

-MT
powrwrap - 29 Oct 2007 18:15 GMT
> On Oct 29, 12:03 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>>  "powrwrap" <powrw...@aol.com> wrote

> > Obviously I will try on some readers locally to get an idea, but
> > you're saying I should order single vision glasses with OD and OS of
> > +1.50 and a pd of 64?
.
> Make the PD 65 and you have it precisely.

Cool. Thanks Mike. And also thanks to Mark A.
powrwrap - 01 Nov 2007 15:12 GMT
I went to Walgreen's and tried out some of their readers in different
add units.

As Mike predicted +1.50 was the right choice. The price was $27.99. It
should be easy to get them online for less than $20.00, shipping
included.
powrwrap - 01 Nov 2007 15:17 GMT
> I went to Walgreen's and tried out some of their readers in different
> add units.
>
> As Mike predicted +1.50 was the right choice. The price was $27.99. It
> should be easy to get them online for less than $20.00, shipping
> included.

Oh, one more thing. Do I need anti-reflective coating for readers?
Mike Tyner - 01 Nov 2007 17:59 GMT
> Oh, one more thing. Do I need anti-reflective coating for readers?

No. The benefits are largely cosmetic and they are more likely to smudge and
scratch and peel.

-MT
The Real Bev - 01 Nov 2007 23:03 GMT
>> Oh, one more thing. Do I need anti-reflective coating for readers?
>
> No. The benefits are largely cosmetic and they are more likely to smudge and
> scratch and peel.

Moreover, the readers frequently found at various dollar stores are
perfectly good.  I lose more than I break :-(

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powrwrap - 02 Nov 2007 15:05 GMT
> Moreover, the readers frequently found at various dollar stores are
> perfectly good.  I lose more than I break :-(

Hmmm...thanks for the tip. Without A/R coating (thanks Mike) I can buy
them online for $12.95, but I suppose I could check the dollar stores
to see if they are cheaper.
Dan Abel - 02 Nov 2007 18:19 GMT
> > Moreover, the readers frequently found at various dollar stores are
> > perfectly good.  I lose more than I break :-(
>
> Hmmm...thanks for the tip. Without A/R coating (thanks Mike) I can buy
> them online for $12.95, but I suppose I could check the dollar stores
> to see if they are cheaper.

I buy mine at Costco.  They seem pretty nice.  They are three pairs for
US$18.99.  That's one pair for home, one for the vehicle and one for
work.
The Real Bev - 03 Nov 2007 22:56 GMT
>> > Moreover, the readers frequently found at various dollar stores are
>> > perfectly good.  I lose more than I break :-(
>>
>> Hmmm...thanks for the tip. Without A/R coating (thanks Mike) I can buy
>> them online for $12.95, but I suppose I could check the dollar stores
>> to see if they are cheaper.

Many of the 99-Cents-Only Stores' readers are marked $12.95.  Long ago the
Feds wanted to buy some of my husband's software, BUT FIRST they demanded an
explanation of how he set his price.  He told them that he surveyed the
competition (very little of it) and cut their lowest price in half.  If they
didn't like that method he'd be happy to charge them however much more they
wanted to pay.  The purchase order came through at the original price.

> I buy mine at Costco.  They seem pretty nice.  They are three pairs for
> US$18.99.  That's one pair for home, one for the vehicle and one for
> work.

The problem is comfort, which you can't determine until you open the
package.  Costco is so good about returns that I hate to return opened stuff
just because I was disappointed in it.

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Dan Abel - 04 Nov 2007 20:17 GMT
> > I buy mine at Costco.  They seem pretty nice.  They are three pairs for
> > US$18.99.  That's one pair for home, one for the vehicle and one for
> > work.
>
> The problem is comfort, which you can't determine until you open the
> package.

I believe you have mentioned here that you have issues with fitting
glasses.  That's an important consideration.  I seldom have a problem
with regular reading glasses.  And at that price, I can just keep them
as spares, if they don't fit well.
 
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