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natalia.909@gmail.com - 22 Oct 2007 12:23 GMT
Is it possible to track eye movements using ordinary PC camera and
appropriate software or is it necessary to use special hardware ?
Results don't have to be very precise, I need them just for school
researches.
Scott Seidman - 22 Oct 2007 13:09 GMT
natalia.909@gmail.com wrote in news:1193052213.946242.52280
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> Is it possible to track eye movements using ordinary PC camera and
> appropriate software or is it necessary to use special hardware ?
> Results don't have to be very precise, I need them just for school
> researches.

Depends on what you are trying to do.  You at least need image processing
software that can track the center of the pupil.  If you need to do this in
real time, it would be difficult without specialized hardware.

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natalia.909@gmail.com - 22 Oct 2007 13:47 GMT
> Depends on what you are trying to do.  You at least need image processing
> software that can track the center of the pupil.  If you need to do this in
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Well, I don't need to track eye movement in real time but I have to
measure the time while the participant of the experiment looks on the
image, that is demonstrated to him. Can I do this without specialized
hardware? I also don't need the exactly trail of pupil's move, but it
would be great if I could find out which parts of the shown image have
the biggest gaze frequency. Is there any software that requires only
PC camera and can do things that I've wrote about?
Scott Seidman - 22 Oct 2007 13:50 GMT
>> Depends on what you are trying to do.  You at least need image
>> processing software that can track the center of the pupil.  If you
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> the biggest gaze frequency. Is there any software that requires only
> PC camera and can do things that I've wrote about?

If you don't need to do this in real time, you shouldn't need specialized
hardware.  You will, however, need some pretty good image processing
software.  Unless you're a really good programmer, or have access to a
good image processing library, I'd wager that the commercial packages are
the way to go, especially if you need both horizontal and vertical eye
movements.  If you could get away with only horizontal, there are other
options which would be much easier.

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Zetsu - 22 Oct 2007 16:33 GMT
apple macs are good 4 this sort of stuff, trust me
stay away from windows
Scott Seidman - 22 Oct 2007 20:52 GMT
> apple macs are good 4 this sort of stuff, trust me
> stay away from windows

Yeah, never mind that I've been professionally measuring eye movements on
windows computers for 15 years.

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Zetsu - 22 Oct 2007 20:56 GMT
you can use windows, but i think macs are faster and for simple use
macs are overall better for short term projects like this. what is
your job scott? r u an OD?
Zetsu - 22 Oct 2007 20:58 GMT
my school is a media arts college and the computers in our school that
have windows os absolutely suck. the macs are absolutely amazing
though. i can say it from my own experiences.we have to measure
movements and stuff too sometimes.
natalia.909@gmail.com - 22 Oct 2007 20:35 GMT
> If you could get away with only horizontal, there are other
> options which would be much easier.

 Let's presume that I need just horizontal eye movements. What other
options exactly do you mean?

On 22 Pa , 17:33, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> apple macs are good 4 this sort of stuff, trust me
> stay away from windows

Unfortunately I have access just to windows, but if I could get apple
mac, do you know any particular software that would be useful in this
case?
Scott Seidman - 22 Oct 2007 20:44 GMT
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>   Let's presume that I need just horizontal eye movements. What other
> options exactly do you mean?

Electrooculography (EOG), or infrared oculography.  With either system,
you'd need a way to acquire analog electrical data.

I'd imagine you could put together a good EOG system for less than $100.  
Something to sample your data might run you $400 or so.

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Zetsu - 22 Oct 2007 20:44 GMT
i think a good software is 'final cut studio 2' although you might
need to interweave use of one application with another if you want to
do things nicely. this isnt the best place to ask about these things,
go on to the image processing forums they'll tell you how to do it all
Zetsu - 22 Oct 2007 20:47 GMT
>I need them just for school researches

r u a sixth former?
Zetsu - 22 Oct 2007 20:48 GMT
>I need them just for school researches

r u a sixth former?
which subject do you need this research for?
Dan Abel - 23 Oct 2007 01:21 GMT
> > If you could get away with only horizontal, there are other
> > options which would be much easier.
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> mac, do you know any particular software that would be useful in this
> case?

It barely has 15 years experience at living, much less experience with
hardware and software.  It is still a child.
 
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