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Ms.Brainy - 17 Oct 2007 22:47 GMT
Medicare is the largest insurer and payer for medical treatment In the
USA.  As such, it has its own price schedule of what those who
participate in its program may charge  for each medical procedure, and
what portion of it will be paid by Medicare.  Moreover, Medicare
dictate that in most cases no additional amount over the approved rate
may be charged to the patient.

For the sake of the issue I wish to raise, I will ignore the
complexities of Medicare Part A, Part B and medigap with its various
plans.  In essence, doctors and medical institutions are paid less
(substantially less) for treating medicare patients.

My question is how these facts affect the quality and quantity of care
and treatment provided to Medicare patients.
Neil Brooks - 17 Oct 2007 22:55 GMT
> My question is how these facts affect the quality and quantity of care
> and treatment provided to Medicare patients.

... in 25 words or less, right? ;-)
Ms.Brainy - 17 Oct 2007 23:55 GMT
> > My question is how these facts affect the quality and quantity of care
> > and treatment provided to Medicare patients.
>
> ... in 25 words or less, right? ;-)

But why Niel, there is no word limit on this.  Feel free to tell it
all...
Dan Abel - 18 Oct 2007 01:12 GMT
> Medicare is the largest insurer and payer for medical treatment In the
> USA.  As such, it has its own price schedule of what those who
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> My question is how these facts affect the quality and quantity of care
> and treatment provided to Medicare patients.

Good question.  I belong to an HMO which focuses on prevention rather
than cure.  At 65 I have to sign up for Medicare to continue with my
HMO.  According to them, I will receive exactly the same care as I do
now, but the billing folks will automatically bill Medicare for whatever
they can.  I don't know if my premium goes down, but since I currently
pay about US$2.00 per month for the three of us, I'm not too concerned.
KlausK - 18 Oct 2007 05:13 GMT
"Ms.Brainy" <mikabrainy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> For the sake of the issue I wish to raise, I will ignore the
> complexities of Medicare Part A, Part B and medigap with its various
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> My question is how these facts affect the quality and quantity of care
> and treatment provided to Medicare patients.

You get what you pay for. Medical institutions are businesses. They
gravitate toward those who pay more $$$. Medicare is cheap and I don't see
why one should complain.
Ms.Brainy - 18 Oct 2007 05:23 GMT
>"Ms.Brainy" <mikabrainy@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> For the sake of the issue I wish to raise, I will ignore the
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>gravitate toward those who pay more $$$. Medicare is cheap and I don't see
>why one should complain.

Obviously you are brain damaged.  Where did I complain?
You have no clue of what medicare is, but feel a compulsion to respond to me.
Will you ever get rid of this obsession?

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Ms.Brainy - 18 Oct 2007 05:33 GMT
>You get what you pay for. Medical institutions are businesses.

Not always and not necessarily and not only.

>They gravitate toward those who pay more $$$.

How do they "gravitate"?  Have you ever heard about medical ethics?

>Medicare is cheap

Medicare is not "cheap" nor expensive.  Take a short basic course to find out
how it works before you make a fool of yourself.

>and I don't see why one should complain.

Your visual impairment goes far beyond your eyes, directly into your brain.
There was a question, not a complaint.

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Zetsu - 18 Oct 2007 07:51 GMT
Hello,

>and I don't see why one should complain.
>>There was a question, not a complaint.

He didn't say 'you' he said 'one'.
Zetsu - 18 Oct 2007 07:52 GMT
>Your visual impairment goes far beyond your eyes, directly into your brain.

Yes but same for anyone, all visual impairment has a foundation in the
mind.
Zetsu - 18 Oct 2007 07:55 GMT
I noticed Ms.Brainy that you are rather touchy these days. First you
go crazy at Mark for expounding his professional beliefs which you
agree with anyway, but still tried to argue with him (but failed
miserably and made yourself look stupider (than normal)), and now you
are going crazy on Klausk. I think you are the one with a strange
compulsion and obsession here.
Zetsu - 18 Oct 2007 08:10 GMT
>Your visual impairment goes far beyond your eyes, directly into your brain.

Yes but same for anyone, all visual impairment has a foundation in the
mind. I noticed Ms.Brainy that you are rather touchy these days. First
you go crazy at Mark for expounding his professional beliefs which you
yourself agree with anyway, but still tried to argue with him (but
failed miserably and made yourself look stupider-than normal), and now
you are going crazy on Klausk. I think you are the one with a strange
compulsion and obsession here.
Neil Brooks - 18 Oct 2007 16:32 GMT
> >Your visual impairment goes far beyond your eyes, directly into your brain.
>
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> you are going crazy on Klausk. I think you are the one with a strange
> compulsion and obsession here.

pot ... kettle ... black.
Zetsu - 18 Oct 2007 17:03 GMT
Much of the time you are the pot
Dan Abel - 18 Oct 2007 18:18 GMT
> >You get what you pay for. Medical institutions are businesses.
>
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>
> How do they "gravitate"?  Have you ever heard about medical ethics?

I belong to the Kaiser HMO.  99.9% of the doctors that patients see are
on salary.  A surgeon gets paid the same whether they recommend for or
against surgery.  Obviously, they became a surgeon because they wanted
to do surgery, so they will recommend for surgery when they think it is
in the patient's best interest.  For instance, the Kaiser north of me
had no Retinal Specialist for many years.  If you needed to see one,
your ophthalmologist would give you a referral to a Retinal Specialist
office nearby.  There was a contractual arrangement, but it was between
that office and Kaiser.  The patient was not involved in the money.
KlausK - 19 Oct 2007 00:06 GMT
>>and I don't see why one should complain.
>
> Your visual impairment goes far beyond your eyes, directly into your
> brain.
> There was a question, not a complaint.

When did I say that **you** were complaining"??? Let me ask you
again....when the f.ck did I say that **you** were complaining???

You are suffering from a persecution complex. Get a medical help from a
psychiatrist. On a second thought, you don't need to see a psychiatrist
because s/he will fire you thanks to your bad attitude sooner or later.
Neil Brooks - 19 Oct 2007 01:03 GMT
> >>and I don't see why one should complain.
>
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>
> You are suffering from a persecution complex.

I wonder if it's at all related to YOU humping her posts?

It's possible, no?

Let me put the question to you again: what IS your issue with her?

Otis hurts people -- usually children -- by emphatically advocating
something KNOWN to risk double vision as a consequence.  That's my
explanation for my behavior.

What's yours?
 
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