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Excellent discussion about myopia PREVENTION.

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otisbrown@pa.net - 30 Sep 2007 03:59 GMT
Dear Second-opinion friends,

Subject: Here is a discussion on how to avoid ENTRY into
myopia.

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2254

It is about 35 minutes -- so click, listen, and
enjoy.

Some day you may be directed to listen to
this audio -- to help your own children with
prevention.

Keep an open mind,

Otis
lena102938 - 30 Sep 2007 04:41 GMT
On Sep 29, 9:59 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
> Dear Second-opinion friends,
>
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> Otis

>From the same site
To prevent progression is possible:
The one who can stand up.

"I just loved having such precise and distinct vision again!
But I soon realised my eyes were becoming 'lazy' and I
decided I wasn't going to depend on them so much "
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 30 Sep 2007 05:19 GMT
On Sep 29, 10:59 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
> Dear Second-opinion friends,
>
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>
> Otis

yes--  parents should definitely familiarize themselves with a handful
of different fairy tales so they can stimulate their children's
imaginations and help them fall to sleep at bedtime.  Rapunzel is one
of my favorites, but there are delightful books chock-full of
interesting tales by such talented authors as the Brothers Grimm
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_and_Household_Tales).

actually, the tale written by Don Rehm that Otis is referring to, is
inappropriate for children in my opinion since it contains hate-
mongering sections such as when Mr. Rehn accuses the director of the
National Eye Institute of accepting bribes from large optical
companies so as to deliberately "hook" U.S. citizens on the use of
eyeglasses (http://www.myopia.org/nei.htm).  Children shouldn't learn
to behave in such a manner and it is regrettable that Mr. Rehm never
matured beyond the mental age of 12 before writing his website.

But I do agree that you should keep an open mind when you read the
stuff written by fanatics like Don Rehm and Otis Brown.  they do not
intentionally mean to be liars and con-men (I think) but instead they
are simply mentally-challenged and mis-informed so that they actually
believe the dingle-berry claims they make.  Otis Brown would actually
recommend that nearsighted people wear reading glasses so that their
distance vision is even more blurred than it normally would.  He
believes that such a treatment can prevent further changes in a
persons eyeglass prescription even though clear scientific studies
have disproved what he says decades ago.  I suppose he doesn't care
that people, should they take his advise, might run over small animals
or children while driving or be unable to see cars stopped ahead of
them on the road.  Mr. Brown's treatment method has actually caused
some people to develop double-vision, and has caused at least one
angry citizen to file a formal complaint to the authorities in the
state where he lives.  So I would ask, which would be worse-- the
disease or the (alleged) cure?

In the end, Mr. Rehm and Mr. Brown are rather pitiful and should
probably be humored rather than challenged.  If you try to confront
them and ask them to PROVE their claims they become unstable and
perhaps could harm someone or even themselves.  It's pretty safe to
assume that their mental illness manifests itself in more ways than
just what they say to us in this newsgroup.  They could have family
who live with them at home and their well-being could be in jeopardy.
If we "set them off" by publically-demonstrating their ignorance in
this newsgroup (again) we might be hearing about their reaction when
we turn on CNN and listen to breaking news stories about murder-
suicides,etc.

Just remember-- it's your vision and your eyes.  Don't trust your
health to untrained and inexperienced wackos who post ideas on the
internet.  Visit a real eye doctor and find out the truth.
otisbrown@pa.net - 30 Sep 2007 12:42 GMT
Don't be an idiot about this, PClar

PClar>  Otis Brown would actually
recommend that nearsighted people wear reading glasses so that their
distance vision is even more blurred than it normally would.

Otis> This is AGAIN NOT what I said.  What I suggested is
that the person who has a SLIGHT negative refractive STATE,
and 20/40 to 20/50 vision BEGIN wearing a proper-strength
plus AT NEAR.  This means that for a period of time
he will have that SLIGHT negative refractive state, while
he wears a plus for ALL NEAR WORK.

A mild plus will not blur near work (under the above condition).

Thus the person, (as a habit) continues to wear the plus, and
monitors his Snellen until it clears.  This is not an
"easy" process, and the person himself will have to
understand it that way.

HE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO WEAR THE PLUS FOR DISTANT
OBJECTS -- GET IT?

Otis

On Sep 30, 12:19 am, p.clar...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 29, 10:59 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
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Zetsu - 30 Sep 2007 12:57 GMT
repunzel is a good story book but it is not my favorite one. my
favorite story book ever in the whole wide world is called lord of the
rings, it is simply a delightful book chock full of twists and
captivating story-telling which will continually stimulate one's
imagination to the peak. it has been said that the english speaking
world is devided into two groups; people who have read the hobbit and
lotr and people who have yet to read it. quite an accurate saying i
should like to think.i will recommend this incredible book to all the
children out there aged under 10 years old. it tells the story of the
young hobit named frodo baggins of the shire, well okay it doesn't
begin there actually it begins many many years before; there is this
lord who creates various angel things and the universe, now melkor was
one of the angels however he was very evil and wanted to destroy the
lord's creations, or bend them to his own desire and taste. melkor had
a servant named sauron, now this sauron was also very evil and very
powerful and his power began to grow, however in order to be truly
invincible it required that he should capture several 'rings of
powers', within these rings were held such immense power that through
the ages of time creatures and sought them with great determination.
now anyway sauron made this 'one ring' now this ring was special
because when he had it he would be able to summon all of the rings
that every existed in the whole of the middle earth, that means the
rings of the elves, dwarves, men and everything else. when he had
these rings he was extremely powerful of course. but one day during a
battle the son of isildor managed to fell the ring from his finger and
capture it, however isildur's son was soon slain by the Enemy; after
which the legends tell that the ring had fallen into a river of some
sort. now this river was left uninhabitted for many hundred of years
until eventually a new breed of creatures began to dwell there. among
this new breed, hobbitlike in their appearance, was a very greedy
little creature named smeagol, now one day smeagol and his friend went
fishing and his friend found the ring; it glimmered in his eyes as he
returned to the shore with great excitement, however to his misfortune
smeagol had been spying on him all along.  now smeagol killed the
friend and took the ring for his own, calling it 'my preciousss'
however the mischief that he soon got up to led to his banishment from
his race by his grandmother, and he was forced to retreat into the
ancient caves where no creatures dwelled, and no mysteries or
adventures were to be found. smeagol soon became insane because he had
been long away from society and away from others, and he had become a
monsterous little thing, others had given him the new name of 'gollum'
due to the strange noises he choked through his throat which consisted
of various insults, as well as 'my preciouss'.. etc. soon after bilbo
baggins of the shire happened to come across these caves, and in a
fierce duel of wit and cunning he managed to take the dear ring of
gollum, who was of course furious at this. bilbo took the ring for his
own and brought it back to the shire, adding to his many other
treasures which, legend told, were stored somewhere in his home. many
years after this frodo baggins inherits the ring, and the wizard
council, including gandalf, learn of the Dark Enemy's intentions,
which are to capture the ring and to return to power once again to
wreak mayhem across the Earth. therefore they meet up in a council at
the Elf named 'Elrond's house, and frodo is given the task of
destroying the ring by taking it to mount doom and throwing it into
the fire. it's just an amazing book you have absolutely got to read
it, even if you are an adult you should still read it that's how good
it is. but children especially must read this incredible work.
lena102938 - 30 Sep 2007 15:40 GMT
> repunzel is a good story book but it is not my favorite one. my
> favorite story book ever in the whole wide world is called lord of the
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> world is devided into two groups; people who have read the hobbit and
> lotr and people who have yet to read it.

Yes, Zestu
and not only the English speaking
world ,

Book not only for under 10
It was very popular reading when I were in college.
We read it English and also it was nicely translated in my language.

Lena
 
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