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Nystagmus and hypopigmentation of the retina

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elektronix@_REMOVETHIS_infinito.it - 17 Sep 2007 09:51 GMT
Hi all,
About the early 1900's Better Eyesight magazine, I've read in it e.g.:
"After studying these and other cases, I believe that the cause of
detachment of the retina is usually some form of mental strain. It
is gratifying to have proved that when this strain is relieved, the
detachment of the retina disappears and the eye becomes normal."

I think that Zetsu should learn to be compassionate enough to refrain
from adding his noise and pure bullshit to a family drama like ours.
We are talking about serious things here, we're not playing like kids.

Please Zetsu, even IF you really believe in those things, ignore my
thread. I need responses from responsible, caring, compassionate, real,
professional eye doctors, other than the ones who already examined my
son in my country.

Please let me re-include my original message, any pro here could give
a hint? Please.
Will showing him every day a video with simple geometric figures, with
high contrast, help in case the macula is formed, albeit unperfect?

---

Hello,
first of all, I should say that English is not my native language, so
please forgive me and take it into account if I write something wrong.

My little son doesn't see as good as he was supposed to. He just turned
4 months old, and he has been diagnosticated with a nystagmus of the
horizontal symmetric pendular variant, and a "rarefaction of the retinal
pigment" (is it the same as saying hypopigmentation of the retina?). He
has no strabism, no photophobia, nor iris translucency. He will go through
other examinations in the next days and months, for many of them it's
still too early (e.g. Visual Evoked Potential) and we've to wait until
he's 6 months old at least.

I ask you, is it probably Ocular Albinism or it can be already excluded,
due to the absence of photophobia and iris translucency, let away of the
strabism? Neither I nor my wife are albin, we're just a bit myopic, but
apart that we both have an excellent visual acuity. As memory serves, we
have no albin relatives in either families, nor any cases of nystagmus.
We also have a daughter, 2 years old, and she has an excellent visual
acuity and no eye problems whatsoever, not even any myopia (she can say
who's coming from a hundreds meter distance!).

Anyway, what else could it be, in case it was not Ocular Albinism?

Is there anything I can do at least to improve the clinical situation?

I would want to also ask: the rarefaction of the retinical pigment causes
the loss of stereoscopic vision (abnormal chiasm) only in case of Ocular
Albinism, or whatever is the cause of rarefaction of the retinical pigment?
In other words, I mean, is this abnormal chiasm development linked to OA
directly, or any rarefaction of the retinical pigment in the absence of OA
would cause it as well?
At which age does the (abnormal or not) development of the chiasm completes?

To someway oppose the evolution of the nystagmus, that I reckon has been
caused not by brain damage but by the bad visual acuity, I have thought
about making a video with images (lines, grids, points, etc.. moving on
screen) with high contrast, coloured and non, to someway help my baby's
brain to "link" the images on the retina, by optimizing to the maximum his
visual acuity (thanks to the high contrast, geometrically simple images),
in the hope that this could train the arcaic (I've read the mesencephalon
is involved) and subconscious of the eye muscles coordination that nystagmus
shows to not be working.
At which age does the retina and the visual apparatus in general conclude
its development?

Thank you very much,
Fabio

elektronix <at> infinito.it
Zetsu - 17 Sep 2007 18:56 GMT
Hi Fabio,

Thank you for comments.
But I is only helping you!
You should not be so mad at me.

=(
Zetsu - 17 Sep 2007 19:00 GMT
Hi,

>Will showing him every day a video with simple geometric figures, with
>high contrast, help in case the macula is formed, albeit unperfect?

Dr Judy already gave you the answer I think: no it wont.
Mike Tyner - 17 Sep 2007 19:14 GMT
> Thank you for comments.
> But I is only helping you!
> You should not be so mad at me.

Get used to it.

-MT
Scott Seidman - 17 Sep 2007 19:33 GMT
> My little son doesn't see as good as he was supposed to. He just
> turned 4 months old, and he has been diagnosticated with a nystagmus
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> many of them it's still too early (e.g. Visual Evoked Potential) and
> we've to wait until he's 6 months old at least.

At 4 months, it can be pretty difficult to distinguish congenital nystagmus
from spasmous nutans (a phrase you should google).  The retinal problems
push toward congenital nystagmus, though.  

Believe it or not, getting an image to move with the retina does not really
help.  Nystagmus may or may not have some "nulls", or regions of view where
the nystagmus is weaker.  Often, this happens for near vision.  You could
work with a pediatric neuroophthalmologist to try to take advantage of
this.

It doesn't make so much of a difference what the underlying problem is.

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Zetsu - 17 Sep 2007 19:58 GMT
Hi,

Did you try swinging the baby in your lap?
Then observe a change; the eye movements will start to seem more
normal, strangely. Then you might continue it, and cure the child. On
the other hand if it does not work you should try the other methods.
See in the magazine compilation, Better Eyesight, from 1919-1930. It
was a magazine written by several intelligent people.
Dr Judy - 17 Sep 2007 22:31 GMT
> Please let me re-include my original message, any pro here could give
> a hint? Please.
> Will showing him every day a video with simple geometric figures, with
> high contrast, help in case the macula is formed, albeit unperfect?

Although I can understand your desire to help your son, it is unlikely
that showing a video will make any difference, and to the extent that
viewing the video means he is not interacting with the real world, may
cause delays.

The real world delivers much more visual stimulation than a video.
The real world has colours, sizes, shapes and depth.  In addition,
babies learn by using all senses, they need to touch smell, listen and
taste what they see, they cannot touch objects in a video.

Every minute that your son is awake, he is receiving visual
stimulation.  Give him brightly coloured toys to see, touch, smell and
taste, play peek a boo, show him his face in a mirror,.... all those
things that parents naturally do.

Once you have a diagnosis, his doctors may suggest specific therapy,
until then just treat him as you would any baby.

Dr Judy
Zetsu - 18 Sep 2007 15:24 GMT
Hello!

>Every minute that your son is awake, he is receiving visual
>stimulation.  Give him brightly coloured toys to see, touch, smell and
>taste, play peek a boo, show him his face in a mirror,.... all those
>things that parents naturally do.

Yes! For once I actually agree with what the doctor said.

You would do well to encourage your little daughter (what has perfect
sight, doesnt she) to play games like: peekaboo with the little
brother. Not only he will enjoy it, but also it will be very
beneficial to the sight.

Mike critisize me for suggesting 'play'.
Now Dr Judy makes the same suggestion.

Why people always picks on just me.
Neil Brooks - 18 Sep 2007 15:26 GMT
Sorry.  Rishi Giovanni Gatti (Zetsu), Lena102938, and Otis Brown are
trolls who haunt s.m.v.  Otis is pathologically
dishonest and actually hurts people.  Following his advice
can induce double vision in those not working with an eye doctor.

Lena102938 uses anti-eye doctor rhetoric as a substitute for any
actual information.  It seems she now has to wear glasses and has
developed a pathological (and ILLOGICAL) resentment toward the
industry
that "foisted these glasses upon her."

You'd do well to ignore them and wait for
responses from the caring, compassionate eye doctors who
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