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Medical Forum / General / Vision / September 2007Red Tint, Amblyopia.
Hello, I've a question I hope someone can help me find the answer to. A few days ago I came back from the eye doctor's, who said he had no clue what my problem was and suggested it might be eye strain. Backround info would probably be best, My right eye is SPH +1.25 CYL -3.00 AXIS 005, My left is SPH +4.75 CYL 4.25 AXIS 165. Corrected the left is 20/60 and the right is 20/25. The only tests I've had are the 20/20 vision test, the one for eye pressure, cataracts and glaucoma. I've got amblyopia. I've noticed nasty problems with color contrast, depth perception and people tell me I can't tell the difference between some shades of colors, I get them confused, I s'pose. And detail, for some reason I can't see detail well, even though my optometrists insists with each new prescription that glasses'll work. I've gotten pessimistic at best about the whole process. Anyway, the problem is in bright light (daylight is also bright enough, unfortunately. Also happens a lot behind windows) when I'm reading where I'm looking directly at turns an obscenely bright shade of red so that I cannot read the words while the area around it remains in normal color. I've tried moving my eyes along the sentence, the red follows the point I'm looking on and fades everywhere else. I've had it happen for as long as I can remember and didn't find out until fairly recently that the red isn't supposed to be there. Shadow takes care of the problem, but I'd rather find a fix that I didn't have to manufacture myself. Hello, >A few days ago I came back from the eye doctor's, who said he had no >clue what my problem was and suggested it might be eye strain. That the doctor has little knowledge of your problem and is unable to tell you is a good evidence to his stupidity and ignorance. However, his suggestion that the problem could be related to eye strain is accurate, so that is good. >detail, for some reason I can't see detail well, even though my >optometrists insists with each new prescription that glasses'll work. Yes, the doctors will feed you many lies and try to confuse you with their strange terminology, and they will create many excuses as for why they are unable to solve your problem. This is another tribute to their deep level of idiocy. >I can't tell the difference >between some shades of colors Use the imagination in your mind to correct this defect. Your problem where you is unable to detect the colors, and you are seeing strange abnormalities in the vision, these are all curable. You must learn to remember the colors, perfectly, and you should remember how it looked with the perfect sight. If you are unable to remember, then you should learn to imagine. If you are unable to imagine, then you must learn to rest your mind and allow the mental pictures to enter, without interferences. The color problems is a matter of illusions within the mind, the problem will be solved when you learn to correct the imagination and the memory of colors, as aforementioned. Now you absolutely must discard the stupid glasses which the idiotic doctors have told you to wear; smash them and never put them back upon your eyes. They are a great hindrance to the ability for your mind to be able to reaccustom itself to a state which is without chronic strain; the eyeglasses lock that strain inside and you will have immense difficulties to be able to heal your eyesight unless you discard the bad and evil glasses immediately. This will be difficult, but once you have begin the rest treatments you will find your reliance upon them is lowered, and sooner than later you find they are no longer necessary for daily work, at all. The next step is to begin the simple and easy rest methods, as Dr.Bates has described in his perfect sight trilogy of books and magazines. You will be able to read these things online, on the website: www.central-fixation.com . Go there and then go to the library and read the book: Stories from the Clinic, and the Better Eyesight Compilation, and the original masterpiece from 1920. These three books hold the answers to your problem, you must just take some time to read them and discover how to rest your mind. Learn to look at bright lights without strain. Begin the sun treatments, they are of special help to a person with your problems. Learn to see everything in constant motion, swinging opposite to the direction of your gaze. Learn to rest the mind, and to cure your imperfect sight. All your problems will fade away as if they were never even there in the first place, as you begin the rest methods. It is definite you will return to the perfect sight if you follow these directions. [snip] Sorry. Rishi (Zetsu) Giovanni Gatti is a long-time troll who haunts s.m.v. Otis Brown is another. You'd do well to ignore them and wait for responses from the caring, compassionate eye doctors who DO also participate in this site. If this persists get another opinion. Don't wait too long. Don't exclude neurologic origins. > Hello, I've a question I hope someone can help me find the answer to. > A few days ago I came back from the eye doctor's, who said he had no [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > takes care of the problem, but I'd rather find a fix that I didn't > have to manufacture myself. Beg pardon, but I've no doubt on it persisting as I remember it happening since I've learnt to read, way back in first grade, and I'm 24 now. Every optometrist insists on a new eye exam (not that it isn't needed, but it does get pricey) and I don't have the required funds to keep getting them done, I've already had two exams this year. I've no insurance and no cash for any nuerological testing, so I'm rather hopeful someone will reply with an idea of what it could be. > Beg pardon, but I've no doubt on it persisting as I remember it > happening since I've learnt to read, way back in first grade, and I'm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > insurance and no cash for any nuerological testing, so I'm rather > hopeful someone will reply with an idea of what it could be. Getting an internet diagnosis and then acting upon it would be the height of stupidity. "Getting an internet diagnosis and then acting upon it would be the height of stupidity." I'm glad we agree on something. I don't want a diagnoses. I want some sort of idea that I can point my optometrist to so he can check it out since he said he had no clue whatsoever before suggesting eye strain as an afterthought, a bit like the last optomotrist before him who prescribed the wrong prescription for my glasses, along with bifocals that did absolutely nothing. I seem to be in an area populated by few knowledgable people, you see, and it's pissing me off. Advice from the internet cannot be any worse than someone telling me they have no clue and then giving me no referal to someone who might be able to find out what was going on, as both the suggestion from the fool to break my glasses above and the one opinion my optometrist gave me amount to the same thing ~ nothing of use. > "Getting an internet diagnosis and then acting upon it would be the > height of stupidity." [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > glasses above and the one opinion my optometrist gave me amount to the > same thing ~ nothing of use. Find an opthalmologist and describe your symtems to him/her. As far as payment, there are ways to pay over time. Never put money over your health. I also have amblyopia and experience many strange symptoms the doctors can't explain. There are a number of people on this forum who report strange symptoms that cannot be explained. You'll have to accept the idea that we know next to nothing about how we see and in your case the problems may never be solved. I certainly have given up and I've seen the best. That I can live with. What I can't live with is idiots (not doctors) who think that just because you can read a Snellen ( I can do the bottom line) everything is fine. If you've been through the medical mill without result then remember that insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result. Perhaps what you should aim for is a teaching hospital, perhaps they might enjoy problematic cases. > Beg pardon, but I've no doubt on it persisting as I remember it > happening since I've learnt to read, way back in first grade, and I'm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > insurance and no cash for any nuerological testing, so I'm rather > hopeful someone will reply with an idea of what it could be. Hi John H Sir, You are right, the doctor know next to nothing about vision. But they would be able to expand their small little knowledge to a big and vast knowledge, if they read the Perfect Sight triology and began the rest methods and thereby demonstrating the truth of the defects in vision; that they are all curable. Obviously, as you said reading a snellen alone means nothing. If the actual eyesight is not sharp, then that would be stupid. I am not saying that 'if you can read bottom line of snellen', you have been cured. I am just saying that if you can see again, then you have been cured. The snellen chart is a good practice for the eyes, read everyday, however. This practice is not about 'memorizing the chart', or guessing, et cetera. It is differnent from that; I mean the way that Dr.Bates suggested it should be done; he did not mean it as in a 'measurement' way, he meant it as a method of improving the sight; another of the rest methods. It is not difficult to understand, but you are unable to do so. >I certainly have given up and I've seen the best. You should not ever ever give up. My friend taught me: Always strive for better, and dont stop until you reach goal. Zetsu, My reference to "not doctors" was in relation to my own experience with various people who refuse to recognise that my visual disability can seriously impact on my work. This problem came to a head a number of years ago when my vision, very quickly, just packed up and went west. I went to the doctor and he put me in front of a Snellen. This is the amazing thing: as soon as I looked at the chart I knew I would not be able to read it the normal way so I tried a little trick: I didn't "try" to see the bottom line, I just I just read the letters off as they came to me. I read the bottom line perfectly even though there was a great deal of blurring. The idiot doctor said, "you have better eyesight than me". I mentioned this to a former collaborator who said he knew of some bod somewhere who had simliar results with patients but I have never been able to track down that source. My particular problem is work related, there are days when I simply cannot work but because the doctors say, "we can find nothing", I am being treated like a malingerer. When my problem first occurred in my early 20's. a full examination revealed nothing. I was prescribed very weak glasses for myopia but decided to go to the library and see what I could find out about the subject. The only book there was Bates. I read it, I did it, since then I have always scored higher on visual acuity tests than prior to that. So as I have previously asserted on this forum I do think there is, for a subset of people, some benefit to be derived from Bates. If only because of the emergence of visual therapy I suspect the conventional medical community has quietly acknowledged that "vision training" can be of benefit. However Bates supporters go way too far and really should refrain from these pointless attacks on the conventional approach. Bates supporters also fail to recognise that while Bates obviously has helped thousands of people it will not work for everyone or even the majority. So I"m stuck in the middle Zetsu, people here hate you lot but I'm indifferent. A more civil tone would be highly welcome and a return to general discussion rather than this endless bickering is desperately needed here. > Hi John H Sir, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > You should not ever ever give up. My friend taught me: Always strive > for better, and dont stop until you reach goal. Sorry. Rishi Giovanni Gatti (Zetsu), Lena102938, and Otis Brown are trolls who haunt s.m.v. Rishi has published, and is trying to sell worthless books. Otis is pathologically dishonest and actually hurts people. Following his advice can induce double vision in those not working closely with an eye doctor. Lena102938 uses anti-eye doctor rhetoric as a substitute for ANY actual information. It seems she now has to wear glasses and has developed a pathological (and ILLOGICAL) resentment toward the industry that "foisted these glasses upon her." You'd do well to ignore them and wait for responses from the caring, compassionate eye doctors who DO also participate in this site. > Hello, I've a question I hope someone can help me find the answer to. > A few days ago I came back from the eye doctor's, who said he had no [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > takes care of the problem, but I'd rather find a fix that I didn't > have to manufacture myself. Have you tried experimenting with different tints to see if this is something that can be filtered out without distorting the color too much? > > Hello, I've a question I hope someone can help me find the answer to. > > A few days ago I came back from the eye doctor's, who said he had no [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Sort of; someone recommended trying tinted screens several months ago for reading but I couldn't find anyone who sold them, so I thought to try tinted lenses. I described the problem to the woman who took care of the ordering process in the office and asked if they provide tinted lenses, and she suggested the lenses that darken in light. Not a bad effort, except I can't discern some things with them on when it's really sunny because it gets too dark for me to tell where potholes and curbs are, where exactly some objects begin and end and how fast they're moving towards me when I'm biking because I get them badly confused with the shadows. They're decent if I'm walking and it's not particularly bright, though. I could try colored tints but I've no idea which one would work and I doubt they give trial pairs. I suppose I could try an edjumacated guess, worth a shot. > I could try colored tints but I've no > idea which one would work and I doubt they give trial pairs. I don't know if this is helpful or not, but why not contact a theatrical or film lighting production company and ask for a gel swatch book. This is a book of all of the different color plastic gels they sell for lighting instruments. You could test out what different colored lenses do to your eyes by looking through the gel swatches. Lee Filters is the best known gel company. There is info on swatch books on this page: <http://www.leefiltersusa.com/NewLightProducts/LightNewProdSWB.html>  Signature~RT Thanks to the lot of you who replied (minus the Free-As-A-Bird glasses- breaker) and thanks again for the gel swatch testing idea, here's to hoping it works. > Thanks to the lot of you who replied (minus the Free-As-A-Bird glasses- > breaker) and thanks again for the gel swatch testing idea, here's to > hoping it works. Please send an update to let us know. Best of luck to you. Signature~RT |
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