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Zetsu - 14 Sep 2007 21:46 GMT Who or what is 'Bates'? Who am I, why do people keep calling me 'Rishi', and why do I come here? What is the cure of imperfect sight? What is imperfect sight? What are the 'rest methods'? What is 'strain of the mind'? What exactly do I mean by all these words? Why do I continually post on this newsgroup without evidence of controlled, double blind, mutlticentre testing? Why dont I just leave and stop being silly (the cure of imperfect sight cannot possibly exist, surely?) These are a few questions that I am asked very frequently by the other posters on this forum. will now attempt to answer, to the best of my ability. However, there may be flaws in my explanations. For this reason you must read the original words from Bates, for the finest explanation of all the matters.
Once upon a time there lived a genius man, who went by the name of William Horatio Bates. He was an ophthalmologist, but began to devise his methods through his experiences with patients who were, as it seemed to him at the time, 'miraculously' cured of supposedly incurable defects, such as cataract, blindness, and presbyopia. He soon began to investigate the facts, and found that by various means, all these defects were treatable and regularly found he was able to permanently cure his patients by these means. He was the discoverer of adrenaline. He also designed a theory of accomodation which came as a result of his various experiments on animals. The 'Bates accomodative theory' and the 'rest methods' are separate entites. They should not be confused.
During his life, Bates decided to write various books, articles and magazines on the subject of the cure of imperfect sight. was the brilliant pioneer of the rest methods which are used in the cure of imperfect sight by treatment without glasses. Bates was able to explain the different issues of confusion much better than I ever can. My descriptive ability is no where near as close to his own, which is near-flawless. If you wish to have the best clarity of these matters, then I advice all of you to read his trilogy of books: The Cure of Imperfect Sight by Treatment Without Glasses (you can buy it from Amazon.co.uk, or read it online. Just make sure you read the original version and not the edited version which was called 'Better Eyesight Without Glasses', edited by Emily and published in 1940. This is the more crappy version, and cuts many important parts and chapters in the book.) The Better Eyesight Magazine (you can buy it from Amazon), and finally Stories from the Clinic (well this was written by his wife, Emily, but still a very important book and beautiful guidance for all). You can also buy these books from my friend, Rishi Giovanni Gatti, on his website: thecentralfixation.com. He will be happy to sell at low low prices, just for you. However I am not trying to promote or advertise him, because you can also read all the books online for completely free, on central-fixation.com. But it really is quite something to read the books under the great light of the sun, where the facts can be very happily demonstrated as you read the book.
I am Zetsu, this is an internet name which I use but it is not my real ife name. I am 15 years old. I am not the other Bates proponent who was called Rishi Giovanni Gatti. He is a very good friend of me, and perhaps we sound similar in our style and usage of language. But we are not the same person. Rishi is a 38 year old man living in Italy. Check his IP address, and then check my own. You will see that they differ. Please do not confuse the two of us any longer, it is a mistake.
The cure of imperfect sight is a means by which a person can, if he has eyesight which is not perfect, regain the perfect sight and see normally again, without the aid of glasses, contact lenses or surgery.
Imperfect sight means when the sight level of the eye is no longer perfect. Perfect sight is not what we call 'normal sight'. They are different terms, and should not be confused. Likewise, the term of normal sight should not be confused with what we call an 'average'. These three terms are all different in their meaning. Perfect sight refers to when a person is able to see with an acuity of 20/10, or greater, on the snellen eyechart. Normal sight is the ability to see 20/20 on the eyechart. Average sight means the average level of acuity in all the people together. But since many people do not have normal sight, average and normal are different terms in this case and should not be confused.
When the vision is imperfect, something, a state of the mind, which we call 'central fixation', is no longer present, or abnormal and diffrerent from how it should be. Central fixation is a simple thing to understand: it just means seeing best at a point, and seeing worse progressively as the distance from the point is increased, that is to say the peripheral and outer vision perception. When normal central fixation is present the eyesight is always perfect, and the mind is at rest and the body feels in comfort. Central fixation can never coexist with imperfect sight.
The cure of imperfect sight differs to glasses, contact lenses, or surgery, in that it does not simply pailliate the symptons which are an indicator of mind strain, but instead seeks to, at first temporarily alermiorate and with dilliegent practice, permanently eliminate, the mind strain itself. By eliminating the mind strain, the imperfect sight is also eliminated.
The rest methods are a series of techniques which are designed to get the mind back into its normal state, that is one which is without the interference of strain, and as logicially follows with the prior assumption, the state of central fixation. They are, as the name implies, designed to induce rest. But this is not the physical sort of 'rest', I mean it is not the sort of rest associated with sleeping, or taking or nap, or that sort of 'rest'. That sort of rest is an important type of rest, but not the one which will cure a person of imperfect sight, in the end. The aim of all rest methods is not to cure the imperfect sight direcly; but rather to quell the mind of its strain and thereby restore perfect sight.
Strain of the mind is something a little more difficult to explain, but I will give my best try. I understand what it means, in my head, but I am not sure how to put it into words, exactly. Basically, strain is an interference and a disturbance in a person. It is something which attacks the minds which are weak. It can be induced with an effort, or an undue attempt to see. The most peculiar form of this undue effort, is what is known as the 'stare'. The stare is where the eye looks at an object continually, without allowing the mind its natural illusion, that is that the object will seem to move, or pulsate, in various directions. The stare is a cause of imperfect sight. Perfect sight cannot exist when the eye stares, or makes an effort in order to see an object. The eyes and the mind are able to best operate when they are left alone, without the interference of this internal strain. Strain of the mind is the cause of imperfect sight.
In the next post I will attempt to answer some of the more controversial questions, as best that I can. But I am tired from typing this huge post and I need a 'rest'. Ha!
Dr. Leukoma - 14 Sep 2007 21:55 GMT > When the vision is imperfect, something, a state of the mind, which we > call 'central fixation', is no longer present, or abnormal and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > rest and the body feels in comfort. Central fixation can never coexist > with imperfect sight. I get it. The point of central fixation is to create a mental pinhole. Just see what is clear and ignore the blur. Brilliant!
Zetsu - 14 Sep 2007 21:59 GMT Hello,
Who or what is 'Bates'? Who am I, why do people keep calling me 'Rishi', and why do I come here? What is the cure of imperfect sight? What is imperfect sight? What are the 'rest methods'? What is 'strain of the mind'? What exactly do I mean by all these words?
Why do I continually post on this newsgroup without evidence of controlled, double blind, mutlticentre testing? Why dont I just leave and stop being silly (the cure of imperfect sight cannot possibly exist, surely?)
These are a few questions that I am asked very frequently by the other posters on this forum. will now attempt to answer, to the best of my ability.
However, there may be flaws in my explanations. For this reason you must read the original words from Bates, for the finest explanation of all the matters.
Once upon a time there lived a genius man, who went by the name of William Horatio Bates. He was an ophthalmologist, but began to devise his methods through his experiences with patients who were, as it seemed to him at the time, 'miraculously' cured of supposedly incurable defects, such as cataract, blindness, and presbyopia.
He soon began to investigate the facts, and found that by various means, all these defects were treatable and regularly found he was able to permanently cure his patients by these means. He was the discoverer of adrenaline.
He also designed a theory of accomodation which came as a result of his various experiments on animals. The 'Bates accomodative theory' and the 'rest methods' are separate entites. They should not be confused.
During his life, Bates decided to write various books, articles and magazines on the subject of the cure of imperfect sight. was the brilliant pioneer of the rest methods which are used in the cure of imperfect sight by treatment without glasses. Bates was able to explain the different issues of confusion much better than I ever can.
My descriptive ability is no where near as close to his own, which is near-flawless. If you wish to have the best clarity of these matters, then I advice all of you to read his trilogy of books: The Cure of Imperfect Sight by Treatment Without Glasses (you can buy it from Amazon.co.uk, or read it online. Just make sure you read the original version and not the edited version which was called 'Better Eyesight Without Glasses', edited by Emily and published in 1940. This is the more crappy version, and cuts many important parts and chapters in the book.) The Better Eyesight Magazine (you can buy it from Amazon), and finally Stories from the Clinic (well this was written by his wife, Emily, but still a very important book and beautiful guidance for all).
You can also buy these books from my friend, Rishi Giovanni Gatti, on his website: thecentralfixation.com. He will be happy to sell at low low prices, just for you.
However I am not trying to promote or advertise him, because you can also read all the books online for completely free, on central- fixation.com. But it really is quite something to read the books under the great light of the sun, where the facts can be very happily demonstrated as you read the book.
I am Zetsu, this is an internet name which I use but it is not my real ife name. I am 15 years old. I like in the UK.
I am not the other Bates proponent who was called Rishi Giovanni Gatti. He is a very good friend of me, and perhaps we sound similar in our style and usage of language. But we are not the same person. Rishi is a 38 year old man living in Italy.
Check his IP address, and then check my own. You will see that they differ. Please do not confuse the two of us any longer, it is a mistake.
The cure of imperfect sight is a means by which a person can, if he has eyesight which is not perfect, regain the perfect sight and see normally again, without the aid of glasses, contact lenses or surgery.
Imperfect sight means when the sight is not perfect.
Perfect sight is not what we call 'normal sight'. They are different terms, and should not be confused. Likewise, the term of normal sight should not be confused with what we call an 'average'. These three terms are all different in their meaning. Perfect sight refers to when a person is able to see with an acuity of 20/10, or greater, on the snellen eyechart.
Normal sight is the ability to see 20/20 on the eyechart. Average sight means the average level of acuity in all the people together. But since many people do not have normal sight, average and normal are different terms in this case and should not be confused.
When the vision is imperfect, something, a state of the mind, which we call 'central fixation', is no longer present, or abnormal and diffrerent from how it should be.
Central fixation is a simple thing to understand: it just means seeing best at a point, and seeing worse progressively as the distance from the point is increased, that is to say the peripheral and outer vision perception.
When normal central fixation is present the eyesight is always perfect, and the mind is at rest and the body feels in comfort. Central fixation can never coexist with imperfect sight.
The cure of imperfect sight differs to glasses, contact lenses, or surgery, in that it does not simply pailliate the symptons which are an indicator of mind strain, but instead seeks to, at first temporarily alermiorate and with dilliegent practice, permanently eliminate, the mind strain itself. By eliminating the mind strain, the imperfect sight is also eliminated.
The rest methods are a series of techniques which are designed to get the mind back into its normal state, that is one which is without the interference of strain, and as logicially follows with the prior assumption, the state of central fixation.
These method is, as the name implies, designed to induce rest. But this is not the physical sort of 'rest', I mean it is not the sort of rest associated with sleeping, or taking or nap, or that sort of 'rest'. That sort of rest is an important type of rest, but not the one which will cure a person of imperfect sight, in the end. The aim of all rest methods is not to cure the imperfect sight direcly; but rather to quell the mind of its strain and thereby restore perfect sight.
Strain of the mind is something a little more difficult to explain, but I will give my best try. I understand what it means, in my head, but I am not sure how to put it into words, exactly.
Basically, strain is an interference and a disturbance in a person. It is something which attacks the minds which are weak. It can be induced with an effort, or an undue attempt to see. The most peculiar form of this undue effort, is what is known as the 'stare'.
The stare is where the eye looks at an object continually, without allowing the mind its natural illusion, that is that the object will seem to move, or pulsate, in various directions. The stare is a cause of imperfect sight. Perfect sight cannot exist when the eye stares, or makes an effort in order to see an object.
The eyes and the mind are able to best operate when they are left alone, without the interference of this internal strain. Strain of the mind is the cause of imperfect sight.
In the next post I will attempt to answer some of the more controversial questions, as best that I can. But I am tired from typing this huge post and I need a 'rest'. Ha!
Zetsu - 14 Sep 2007 22:02 GMT Hello,
Who or what is 'Bates'? Who am I, why do people keep calling me 'Rishi', and why do I come here? What is the cure of imperfect sight? What is imperfect sight? What are the 'rest methods'? What is 'strain of the mind'? What exactly do I mean by all these words?
Why do I continually post on this newsgroup without evidence of controlled, double blind, mutlticentre testing? Why dont I just leave and stop being silly (the cure of imperfect sight cannot possibly exist, surely?)
These are a few questions that I am asked very frequently by the other posters on this forum. will now attempt to answer, to the best of my ability.
However, there may be flaws in my explanations. For this reason you must read the original words from Bates, for the finest explanation of all the matters.
Once upon a time there lived a genius man, who went by the name of William Horatio Bates. He was an ophthalmologist, but began to devise his methods through his experiences with patients who were, as it seemed to him at the time, 'miraculously' cured of supposedly incurable defects, such as cataract, blindness, and presbyopia.
He soon began to investigate the facts, and found that by various means, all these defects were treatable and regularly found he was able to permanently cure his patients by these means. He was the discoverer of adrenaline.
He also designed a theory of accomodation which came as a result of his various experiments on animals. The 'Bates accomodative theory' and the 'rest methods' are separate entites. They should not be confused.
During his life, Bates decided to write various books, articles and magazines on the subject of the cure of imperfect sight. was the brilliant pioneer of the rest methods which are used in the cure of imperfect sight by treatment without glasses. Bates was able to explain the different issues of confusion much better than I ever can.
My descriptive ability is no where near as close to his own, which is near-flawless. If you wish to have the best clarity of these matters, then I advice all of you to read his trilogy of books: The Cure of Imperfect Sight by Treatment Without Glasses (you can buy it from Amazon.co.uk, or read it online. Just make sure you read the original version and not the edited version which was called 'Better Eyesight Without Glasses', edited by Emily and published in 1940. This is the more crappy version, and cuts many important parts and chapters in the book.) The Better Eyesight Magazine (you can buy it from Amazon), and finally Stories from the Clinic (well this was written by his wife, Emily, but still a very important book and beautiful guidance for all).
You can also buy these books from my friend, Rishi Giovanni Gatti, on his website: thecentralfixation.com. He will be happy to sell at low low prices, just for you.
However I am not trying to promote or advertise him, because you can also read all the books online for completely free, on central- fixation.com. But it really is quite something to read the books under the great light of the sun, where the facts can be very happily demonstrated as you read the book.
I am Zetsu, this is an internet name which I use but it is not my real life name. I am 15 years old. I like in the UK.
I am not the other Bates proponent who was called Rishi Giovanni Gatti. He is a very good friend of me, and perhaps we sound similar in our style and usage of language. But we are not the same person. Rishi is a 38 year old man living in Italy.
Check his IP address, and then check my own. You will see that they differ. Please do not confuse the two of us any longer, it is a mistake.
The cure of imperfect sight is a means by which a person can, if he has eyesight which is not perfect, regain the perfect sight and see normally again, without the aid of glasses, contact lenses or surgery.
Imperfect sight means when the sight is not perfect.
Perfect sight is not what we call 'normal sight'. They are different terms, and should not be confused. Likewise, the term of normal sight should not be confused with what we call an 'average'. These three terms are all different in their meaning. Perfect sight refers to when a person is able to see with an acuity of 20/10, or greater, on the snellen eyechart.
Normal sight is the ability to see 20/20 on the eyechart. Average sight means the average level of acuity in all the people together. But since many people do not have normal sight, average and normal are different terms in this case and should not be confused.
When the vision is imperfect, something, a state of the mind, which we call 'central fixation', is no longer present, or abnormal and diffrerent from how it should be.
Central fixation is a simple thing to understand: it just means seeing best at a point, and seeing worse progressively as the distance from the point is increased, that is to say the peripheral and outer vision perception.
When normal central fixation is present the eyesight is always perfect, and the mind is at rest and the body feels in comfort. Central fixation can never coexist with imperfect sight.
The cure of imperfect sight differs to glasses, contact lenses, or surgery, in that it does not simply pailliate the symptons which are an indicator of mind strain, but instead seeks to, at first temporarily alermiorate and with dilliegent practice, permanently eliminate, the mind strain itself. By eliminating the mind strain, the imperfect sight is also eliminated.
The rest methods are a series of techniques which are designed to get the mind back into its normal state, that is one which is without the interference of strain, and as logicially follows with the prior assumption, the state of central fixation.
These method is, as the name implies, designed to induce rest. But this is not the physical sort of 'rest', I mean it is not the sort of rest associated with sleeping, or taking or nap, or that sort of 'rest'. That sort of rest is an important type of rest, but not the one which will cure a person of imperfect sight, in the end. The aim of all rest methods is not to cure the imperfect sight direcly; but rather to quell the mind of its strain and thereby restore perfect sight.
Strain of the mind is something a little more difficult to explain, but I will give my best try. I understand what it means, in my head, but I am not sure how to put it into words, exactly.
Basically, strain is an interference and a disturbance in a person. It is something which attacks the minds which are weak. It can be induced with an effort, or an undue attempt to see. The most peculiar form of this undue effort, is what is known as the 'stare'.
The stare is where the eye looks at an object continually, without allowing the mind its natural illusion, that is that the object will seem to move, or pulsate, in various directions. The stare is a cause of imperfect sight. Perfect sight cannot exist when the eye stares, or makes an effort in order to see an object.
The eyes and the mind are able to best operate when they are left alone, without the interference of this internal strain. Strain of the mind is the cause of imperfect sight.
In the next post I will attempt to answer some of the more controversial questions, as best that I can. But I am tired from typing this huge post and I need a 'rest'. Ha!
Ms.Brainy - 14 Sep 2007 22:37 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 156 lines] > controversial questions, as best that I can. But I am tired from > typing this huge post and I need a 'rest'. Ha! Peasy squeezy!
Zetsu - 15 Sep 2007 12:30 GMT Who or what is 'Bates'? Who am I, why do people keep calling me 'Rishi', and why do I come here? What is the cure of imperfect sight? What is imperfect sight? What are the 'rest methods'? What is 'strain of the mind'? What exactly do I mean by all these words? Why do I continually post on this newsgroup without evidence of controlled, double blind, mutlticentre testing? Why dont I just leave and stop being silly (the cure of imperfect sight cannot possibly exist, surely?) These are a few questions that I am asked very frequently by the other posters on this forum. will now attempt to answer, to the best of my ability. However, there may be flaws in my explanations. For this reason you must read the original words from Bates, for the finest explanation of all the matters.
Once upon a time there lived a genius man, who went by the name of William Horatio Bates. He was an ophthalmologist, but began to devise his methods through his experiences with patients who were, as it seemed to him at the time, 'miraculously' cured of supposedly incurable defects, such as cataract, blindness, and presbyopia. He soon began to investigate the facts, and found that by various means, all these defects were treatable and regularly found he was able to permanently cure his patients by these means. He was the discoverer of adrenaline. He also designed a theory of accomodation which came as a result of his various experiments on animals. The 'Bates accomodative theory' and the 'rest methods' are separate entites. They should not be confused.
During his life, Bates decided to write various books, articles and magazines on the subject of the cure of imperfect sight. was the brilliant pioneer of the rest methods which are used in the cure of imperfect sight by treatment without glasses. Bates was able to explain the different issues of confusion much better than I ever can. My descriptive ability is no where near as close to his own, which is near-flawless. If you wish to have the best clarity of these matters, then I advice all of you to read his trilogy of books: The Cure of Imperfect Sight by Treatment Without Glasses (you can buy it from Amazon.co.uk, or read it online. Just make sure you read the original version and not the edited version which was called 'Better Eyesight Without Glasses', edited by Emily and published in 1940. This is the more crappy version, and cuts many important parts and chapters in the book.) The Better Eyesight Magazine (you can buy it from Amazon), and finally Stories from the Clinic (well this was written by his wife, Emily, but still a very important book and beautiful guidance for all). You can also buy these books from my friend, Rishi Giovanni Gatti, on his website: thecentralfixation.com. He will be happy to sell at low low prices, just for you. However I am not trying to promote or advertise him, because you can also read all the books online for completely free, on central-fixation.com. But it really is quite something to read the books under the great light of the sun, where the facts can be very happily demonstrated as you read the book.
I am Zetsu, this is an internet name which I use but it is not my real ife name. I am 15 years old. I am not the other Bates proponent who was called Rishi Giovanni Gatti. He is a very good friend of me, and perhaps we sound similar in our style and usage of language. But we are not the same person. Rishi is a 38 year old man living in Italy. Check his IP address, and then check my own. You will see that they differ. Please do not confuse the two of us any longer, it is a mistake.
The cure of imperfect sight is a means by which a person can, if he has eyesight which is not perfect, regain the perfect sight and see normally again, without the aid of glasses, contact lenses or surgery.
Imperfect sight means when the sight level of the eye is no longer perfect. Perfect sight is not what we call 'normal sight'. They are different terms, and should not be confused. Likewise, the term of normal sight should not be confused with what we call an 'average'. These three terms are all different in their meaning. Perfect sight refers to when a person is able to see with an acuity of 20/10, or greater, on the snellen eyechart. Normal sight is the ability to see 20/20 on the eyechart. Average sight means the average level of acuity in all the people together. But since many people do not have normal sight, average and normal are different terms in this case and should not be confused.
When the vision is imperfect, something, a state of the mind, which we call 'central fixation', is no longer present, or abnormal and diffrerent from how it should be. Central fixation is a simple thing to understand: it just means seeing best at a point, and seeing worse progressively as the distance from the point is increased, that is to say the peripheral and outer vision perception. When normal central fixation is present the eyesight is always perfect, and the mind is at rest and the body feels in comfort. Central fixation can never coexist with imperfect sight.
The cure of imperfect sight differs to glasses, contact lenses, or surgery, in that it does not simply pailliate the symptons which are an indicator of mind strain, but instead seeks to, at first temporarily alermiorate and with dilliegent practice, permanently eliminate, the mind strain itself. By eliminating the mind strain, the imperfect sight is also eliminated.
The rest methods are a series of techniques which are designed to get the mind back into its normal state, that is one which is without the interference of strain, and as logicially follows with the prior assumption, the state of central fixation. They are, as the name implies, designed to induce rest. But this is not the physical sort of 'rest', I mean it is not the sort of rest associated with sleeping, or taking or nap, or that sort of 'rest'. That sort of rest is an important type of rest, but not the one which will cure a person of imperfect sight, in the end. The aim of all rest methods is not to cure the imperfect sight direcly; but rather to quell the mind of its strain and thereby restore perfect sight.
Strain of the mind is something a little more difficult to explain, but I will give my best try. I understand what it means, in my head, but I am not sure how to put it into words, exactly. Basically, strain is an interference and a disturbance in a person. It is something which attacks the minds which are weak. It can be induced with an effort, or an undue attempt to see. The most peculiar form of this undue effort, is what is known as the 'stare'. The stare is where the eye looks at an object continually, without allowing the mind its natural illusion, that is that the object will seem to move, or pulsate, in various directions. The stare is a cause of imperfect sight. Perfect sight cannot exist when the eye stares, or makes an effort in order to see an object. The eyes and the mind are able to best operate when they are left alone, without the interference of this internal strain. Strain of the mind is the cause of imperfect sight.
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