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Engine - 02 Aug 2007 15:49 GMT
Hi,

I am a Ph.D. student from India. I have eyesight corrected by glasses,
short sight, (-5.0 and -4.75). I would like to do laser or similar
surgery to stop using my glasses. We have some good eye hospitals
around but I could not find out the best and the safest rectification
procedure..

Excimer laser,  Zyoptix 100, LASIK are available here. I found that
zyoptix must be the better one. Can you please suggest me which one is
the best and why?

It may be a unusual query but it will clear the problems in getting
things cleared and helping me to chose the hospital for the surgery.

thank you...
Dan Abel - 02 Aug 2007 16:44 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> It may be a unusual query but it will clear the problems in getting
> things cleared and helping me to chose the hospital for the surgery.

It isn't completely similar, but this sounds a little like choosing a
heart surgeon based on what brand of scalpel they use.
Engine - 03 Aug 2007 14:23 GMT
I dont know what to reply at all. I would like to know the better or
the safest procedure to chose when it come to eye care.
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 03 Aug 2007 15:36 GMT
You may find the information at our organization's website helpful.
Start with

http://www.usaeyes.org/lasik/faq/eyesurgery.htm

http://www.usaeyes.org/lasik/faq/lasik-faq.htm

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes (TM)
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification

"Consider and Choose With Confidence" (TM)

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org

Lasik Bulletin Board
http://www.USAEyes.org/Ask-Lasik-Expert/

I am not a doctor.

Copyright 2007
All Rights Reserved
DAK - 04 Aug 2007 01:21 GMT
On Aug 3, 10:36 am, Glenn - USAEyes.org
<glenn.hageleSTOPS...@USAEyes.org> wrote:
> You may find the information at our organization's website helpful.
> Start with
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Copyright 2007
> All Rights Reserved

Is Glenn Hagele, CRSQA Doctors, USAEyes in trouble with the FBI?
WARNING LASIK / REFRACTIVE SURGEONS OF THE WORLD:

(IS THE $5,000 A YEAR MEMBERSHIP A SCAM and DOCTORS WILL YOUR
REPUTATION BE HARMED BY PAYING THIS FEE TO GLENN HAGELE TO BE A PART
OF CRSQA? YOU DECIDE...

POTENTIAL CRSQA DOCTORS:

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO READ THE BELOW...YOU SHOULD BE INFORMED OF
WHAT YOUR LEADER, GLENN HAGELE, IS SAYING AND DOING TO HURT LASIK
PATIENTS, BECAUSE YOU ARE PAYING HIM...AND HE SEEMS TO APPEAR TO BE
CREATING AND ANSWERING HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF NEGATIVE BLOGS
REGARDING LASIK, AND HE HAS BEEN FOUND TO CONTINUALLY HARASS HURT
LASIK PATIENTS...

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU? IT IS MAKING YOU LOOK BAD AND HE COULD BE
RUINING EACH OF YOUR REPUTATIONS...IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE BELOW, YOU
MAY WANT TO HAVE A 'HEART TO HEART' TALK WITH GLENN HAGELE: ARE THESE
THE 'INFAMOUS CRSQA DOCTORS'????

IF SO, HAVE THESE LASIK DOCTORS EVEN FIGURED OUT YET, THAT THEY ARE
PAYING A YEARLY MEMBERSHIP OF $5,000+++ TO MR. GLENN HAGELE AND
USAEYES TO HAVE A "CRSQA" CERTIFICATE THAT COULD POSSIBLY RUIN THEIR
REPUTATIONS? WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THEIR REPUTATION THANKS TO GLENN
HAGELE AND USAYES? THE BELOW COULD BE A LIST OF CRSQA DOCTORS AND THEY
COULD HAVE TIES TO GLENN HAGELE AND USAEYES:

Lasik Doctor Kerry Assil
Lasik Doctor Jay Bansal
Lasik Doctor Daniel Beers
Lasik Doctor Scott Behler
Lasik Doctor Robert Brems
Lasik Doctor Stephen Brint
Lasik Doctor Ronald Brown
Lasik Doctor Randy Burks
Lasik Doctor Andrew Caster
Lasik Doctor Benjamin Chang
Lasik Doctor David Dulaney
Lasik Doctor Daniel Durrie
Lasik Doctor Ella Faktorovich
Lasik Doctor Raymond Gailitis
Lasik Doctor Robert Gladsden
Lasik Doctor Daniel Goldberg
Lasik Doctor Jack T Holladay
Lasik Doctor Thierry Hufhagel

Lasik Doctor Kent Kirk (isn't this guy the one on the video telling
how great the statistics were about Alcon, i think many people lost a
lot of credibility for this guy, as in our opinions...he seemed to be
lying through his eyes)

Lasik Doctor Robert Lin
Lasik Doctor Richard Lindstrom

Lasik Doctor Robert Maloney (isn't this the guy that just did lasik on
Kristen from Laguna Beach, who is like 20 years old...can you believe
a doctor would do that for publicity??? she's a kid, and who can say
if her eyes are stable and he just did lasik on her for probably
what...exposure??...very sick, two words: DEEPLY DISTURBING!!)

Lasik Doctor James McDonald
Lasik Doctor Michael Mockovak
Lasik Doctor Sanford Moretsky
Lasik Doctor Thomas Planchard
Lasik Doctor Philip Roholt
Lasik Doctor James Rynerson
Lasik Doctor Cary M Silverman
Lasik Doctor Swati Singh
Lasik Doctor Barrie Soloway
Lasik Doctor Gregory Stainer
Lasik Doctor Harmon Stein
Lasik Doctor Steven Stetson
Lasik Doctor Dan Tran
Lasik Doctor Mark Volpicelli
Lasik Doctor David A Wallace
Lasik Doctor Robert Weisenthal
Lasik Doctor Marc Werner
Lasik Doctor Norman Zaffater

In other words, a hurt lasik patient lead comes in via email or a
phone call to Glenn Hagele of USAEyes and CRSQA. Glenn Hagele answers
questions to the hurt lasik patient (and has been found on many
occassions to give the patient medical advice which is a "NO NO"
because Glenn Hagele is a high school graduate, and NOT A DOCTOR). The
hurt lasik patient on many occassions, is funneled to one of the
PAYING CRSQA LASIK DOCTORS WHO PAYS GLENN A $5,000+++ YEAR MEMBERSHIP
FEE, in order to get LEADS from the HURT LASIK PATIENTS...so the lasik
doctor can make money off of the HURT LASIK PATIENT...

The unethical problems here could be the following:

a. Glenn Hagele is operating a 501-c3, Non For Profit out of
Sacramento, CA as his business card/email signature states. This could
be a violation. We are investigating this further.

b. The poor hurt lasik patient, may have ONLY ONE SHOT to fix their
eyesight, and is taking a huge risk potentially by going to a CRSQA
lasik doctor possibly further risking the exponential chances of
making an already horrific situation even worse by risking ECTASIA.

c. Glenn Hagele has been known to harass injured lasik patients who
are in lawsuits with their doctors and it is apparent that he has
closer ties to the lasik doctors that PAY HIM $5,000++++ A YEAR, then
he does to the hurt lasik patients that have websites to inform,
educate, and update the "lied to and misinformed public..."

MORE ON THESE DOCTORS AND THEIR REPUTATIONS FROM HURT PATIENTS CAN BE
FOUND :

WWW.LASIKFLAP.COM

WWW.USAEYES.INFO

WWW.LIFEAFTERLASIK.COM

"BE VERY CAREFUL OF GLENN HAGELE AND IN GOING TO ANY CRSQA LASIK
DOCTOR..."
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 04 Aug 2007 04:38 GMT
I've become a person at which a handful of people who had a bad Lasik
outcome have decided to direct their ire. Their attacks include lying
about my financial history, insulting my wife, publishing my personal
identity including Social Security number, bank account numbers,
credit card numbers on their bulletin boards, defamation, trademark
infringement, listing doctors we have not certified as recommended,
harassing those who fund and govern our nonprofit organization, and
often doing this while hiding behind false identities and multiple
aliases.

Considering the work I do to advocate for Lasik patients and the
nonprofit patient advocacy I founded, their acts seem to have no logic
or reason. Even stranger is the fact that these people did not seek
our information before surgery and did not use doctors certified by
our organization, but you can't use logic and reason on illogical and
unreasonable people.

The outrageous accusations, manipulations, half-truths, outright lies,
false complaints, and attacks on me and others by these anti-Lasik
zealots have caused them some serious trouble.

One had the FBI show up at his door investigating an alleged extortion
attempt against his former surgeon. Another has the Attorney General
investigating her for publicizing my personal identity including
Social Security number on her website. Her employer is investigating
how her access to federal secure computer systems was used to publish
defamation on the Internet, and she uses so many aliases it is hard to
keep up. Another has a permanent restraining order against him for
threatening Dallas Lasik doctor William Boothe, MD with physical
violence, has been sued for defamation, lost, found in contempt of
court and sentenced to jail, is in bankruptcy, cyber-pirated our
organization's trademark domain, plus I'm personally suing him for
defamation and invasion of privacy in California Superior Court...

Rather than copy and pasting the details again and again, just Google:

Brent Hanson
http://tinyurl.com/yrjayg

Lauranell "Nell" Burch
http://tinyurl.com/2y74l7

Dean Andrew Kantis
http://tinyurl.com/2zf3qa

Or you can stop by my personal website:
http://www.GlennHagele.com

For those who would like to form their own opinion about the work I do
and the organization I founded, visit our website and/or our Lasik
Patient Forum listed below my signature.

One more thing: USAEyes is a trademark of the Council for Refractive
Surgery Quality Assurance (http://www.USAEyes.org). The use of
usaeyes.INFO, usaeyes.BIZ, usaeyes.NET, usaeyes.US, and other use of
USAEyes by Brent Hanson is not approved by Council for Refractive
Surgery Quality Assurance and appears to be a violation of the US
Federal Anti-Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, regulations under
the authority of the Internet Corporation of Assigned Names and
Numbers (ICANN), and other trademark law.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes (TM)
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification

"Consider and Choose With Confidence" (TM)

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org

Lasik Bulletin Board
http://www.USAEyes.org/Ask-Lasik-Expert/

I am not a doctor.

Copyright 2007
All Rights Reserved
Neil Brooks - 04 Aug 2007 15:47 GMT
> but you can't use logic and reason on illogical and
>unreasonable people.

The only good thing about the crew that's made a hobby out of
assailing you is that -- IMO -- their sheer STYLE makes them their own
worst enemies.

It's hard to imagine an objective person finding them credible, rather
than simply angry, vicious, vindictive, and vengeful.

Now if Uncle Otis adopted THEIR cause instead of his own, you could
have some real problems.  Luckily, he probably hasn't changed even an
iota in 50 years.... ;-)
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 04 Aug 2007 17:56 GMT
>It's hard to imagine an objective person finding them credible...

I hope so.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes (TM)
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification

"Consider and Choose With Confidence" (TM)

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org

Lasik Bulletin Board
http://www.USAEyes.org/Ask-Lasik-Expert/

I am not a doctor.

Copyright 2007
All Rights Reserved
Mandinga - 05 Aug 2007 21:13 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> zyoptix must be the better one. Can you please suggest me which one is
> the best and why?

Why did you mention that you are a phd student? That infomation has nothing
to do with your question.
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 05 Aug 2007 22:12 GMT
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am a Ph.D. student from India...
>
>Why did you mention that you are a phd student? That infomation has nothing
>to do with your question.

Actually, what a person does can be very important. A person's
profession may influence what type of refractive surgery may be
better, or if no refractive surgery would be appropriate.

A couple of examples would be a person who is involved in contact
sports such as kick-boxing would probably be better served with a
surface ablation technique than with Lasik. A person who is an
astronomer and is required to differentiate closely spaced small spots
of light in the night sky very likely should not have any kind of
refractive surgery.

Vision demands and relative risk are as much a part of a comprehensive
evaluation for Lasik as refractive error.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes (TM)
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification

"Consider and Choose With Confidence" (TM)

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org

Lasik Bulletin Board
http://www.USAEyes.org/Ask-Lasik-Expert/

I am not a doctor.

Copyright 2007
All Rights Reserved
serebel - 06 Aug 2007 00:52 GMT
> Why did you mention that you are a phd student? That infomation has nothing
> to do with your question.

Usually big fat egos. I'm sure every conversation started by this one
begins with "I'm a PHD student".

"I'm a PHD student", please pass the salt."
 
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