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otisbrown@pa.net - 17 Jul 2007 18:00 GMT
Subject:  PClar claims I do not accurately represent the
dynamic behavior of the natural eye "correctly".

I disagree, as do second-opinion optometrists.

PClar claims he can not "find" my site, or
post HIS remarks here. But he never made
an attempt.  Here is how you do it:

You just type:

www.myopiafree.com

then click on "MyopiaFree Forum",

and read the commentary.

PClar is invited to post on MyopiaFree -- provided
he does not insult memembers posting,
or call them "liars", as you-know-who does.

Enjoy,

Otis
Neil Brooks - 17 Jul 2007 18:19 GMT
>Subject:  PClar claims I do not accurately represent the
>dynamic behavior of the natural eye "correctly".

Of course not.  Nobody uses that sort of funky terminology but you. So
... what you've JUST DONE is to lie AND misquote.

COULD you stop that ... even if you wanted to??

>I disagree, as do second-opinion optometrists.

Oh, you must mean Steve Leung.  Who cares?

>PClar claims he can not "find" my site, or
>post HIS remarks here. But he never made
>an attempt.  Here is how you do it:

He did?

Actually, what he said is that you ... well ... here:

[quote]19.    You seem to stop by sci.med.vision for the sole
purpose of "roiling the waters--" adding posts designed only to
harrass and annoy optometrists who, universally, do not agree with
you.  

You then excerpt--often improperly and with incorrect attributions--
these conversations on other sites, adding your little 'comments'
WITHOUT the doctor having any ability to challenge what you say.

Do you think this is intellectually honest?  

If you are interested in debate, exchange, argument, or discussion,
wouldn't it be better to actually ANSWER questions directly?[/quote]

Of course, YOU are the moderator of the above-referenced site,
so--just like here--no discussion can take place.  You enjoy having a
one sided spew-fest, misquoting people as you do.

>You just type:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>he does not insult memembers posting,
>or call them "liars", as you-know-who does.

But you ARE a liar.  I've proven that time after time after time. It's
a fact.  You are blatantly dishonest.

I wish you'd stop, too.  It's damned annoying.

>Enjoy,
>
>Otis

Actually, nobody enjoys Otis.  Almost certainly, least of all Carol.
Mike Tyner - 17 Jul 2007 20:18 GMT
> Subject:  PClar claims I do not accurately represent the
> dynamic behavior of the natural eye "correctly".

Well, let's see.

All eyes get nearsighted at 1/2 D per year.

Farsightedness cures itself.

"Dynamic" means "nearsighted."

Yes, you certainly have it down, don't you?

-MT
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 18 Jul 2007 23:57 GMT
On Jul 17, 1:00 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
> Subject:  PClar claims I do not accurately represent the
> dynamic behavior of the natural eye "correctly".
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Otis

Well I visited your little forum Otis.  Looks like you are the one who
has >95% of all the posts.  Its like you are looking in a mirror and
talking to yourself.  Anyway, I think that's a good place for you to
stay.
Dr Judy - 19 Jul 2007 16:33 GMT
On Jul 17, 1:00 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:

> PClar claims he can not "find" my site, or
> post HIS remarks here. But he never made
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> and read the commentary.

Ignore this advice, Otis is trying to drive traffic to his site; if
you check it out almost all the posts are by Otis.  He even replies to
himself!

Sometimes he creates some fake discussion by cutting and pasting
comments posted on other forums and "replying" to the them; usually
leaving key parts out.   When I first discovered some of my comments
there I was furious that he was posting without my knowledge, but then
I realized that nobody was reading them so it didn't matter.

Dr Judy
CatmanX - 22 Jul 2007 06:39 GMT
I just went to Cletis' site. It is full of all his rhetoric. Reports
from non-existant doctors, non-existant people, Bates Crap that has
been disproved over and over.

Remember, it is called Colt 45 therapy Cletis. Take my advice and use
it.
 
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