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Deidara - 12 Jul 2007 11:24 GMT
I've found these facts to be true in my case:

- the presence of someone with glasses annoys me
- when someone who wear glasses is near me I always strain more
- when loud noises are all around I strain more
- when there is a heated discussion or an argument I strain more
- in the few days that I passed discussing with the idiots on
sci.med.vision
my progress stopped and I become sad
- when I don't think about my eyes and vision my strain is less
- the strain that causes night blindness is different from the strain
that
cause myopia in the daylight
- the swing treatments is a blessing

When you talk with a myopic person of the methods of the normal eye he
runs away precisely at the moment in which they perceive that wearing
glasses is the cause of their problems. They subconsciously understand
that they cannot do without something that is hurting them and they
prefer to escape from this trap avoiding to talk about it.

These people on the sci.med.vision are in the trap. They KNOW that
glasses are hurting them. But they are SLAVE of that damned things.
The more you smash their arguments the more they  suffer. The more
evidence you explain to them, the more they start to go astray and
talk nonsense.

I am wondering that having arguments with them is of no use. Neither
them nor us will get any benefit from it.

They are poor suffering fellows that are not willing to be helped and
to heal their wounds. This happens at times... someone with a wound
that do not want his wound to be exposed and healed because they fear
that more suffering is bound to come, and often it does come because
of the treatment.

They CANNOT SEE beyond the temporary discomfort.
They CANNOT IMAGINE themselves with normal vision.
They CANNOT REMEMBER a time when they had normal vision.

See, Imagine, Remember... it is obvious!

- Deidara
Deidara - 12 Jul 2007 11:25 GMT
I've found these facts to be true in my case:

- the presence of someone with glasses annoys me
- when someone who wear glasses is near me I always strain more
- when loud noises are all around I strain more
- when there is a heated discussion or an argument I strain more
- in the few days that I passed discussing with the idiots on
sci.med.vision my progress stopped and I become sad
- when I don't think about my eyes and vision my strain is less
- the strain that causes night blindness is different from the strain
that cause myopia in the daylight
- the swing treatments is a blessing

When you talk with a myopic person of the methods of the normal eye he
runs away precisely at the moment in which they perceive that wearing
glasses is the cause of their problems. They subconsciously understand
that they cannot do without something that is hurting them and they
prefer to escape from this trap avoiding to talk about it.

These people on the sci.med.vision are in the trap. They KNOW that
glasses are hurting them. But they are SLAVE of that damned things.
The more you smash their arguments the more they  suffer. The more
evidence you explain to them, the more they start to go astray and
talk nonsense.

I am wondering that having arguments with them is of no use. Neither
them nor us will get any benefit from it.

They are poor suffering fellows that are not willing to be helped and
to heal their wounds. This happens at times... someone with a wound
that do not want his wound to be exposed and healed because they fear
that more suffering is bound to come, and often it does come because
of the treatment.

They CANNOT SEE beyond the temporary discomfort.
They CANNOT IMAGINE themselves with normal vision.
They CANNOT REMEMBER a time when they had normal vision.

See, Imagine, Remember... it is obvious!

- Deidara
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 12 Jul 2007 11:52 GMT
> I've found these facts to be true in my case:
>
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>
> - Deidara

do you have different personalities for all the different names you
use on SMV?
otisbrown@pa.net - 12 Jul 2007 16:31 GMT
Dear ABSOLUTE,

Subject:  Dealing with people.

I think that Tom Quackenbush caught the spirit
of the concept.

He said that people do whatever they want,
REGARDLESS OF THE SCIENTIFIC
FACTS PRESENTED TO THEM.

So if you are clearing your Snellen with the
concepts of Bates, then you are indeed doing
it "right" -- as the second-opinion.

Otis

> I've found these facts to be true in my case:
>
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>
> - Deidara
Neil Brooks - 12 Jul 2007 16:45 GMT
>He said that people do whatever they want,
>REGARDLESS OF THE SCIENTIFIC
>FACTS PRESENTED TO THEM.

Speaking of the "scientific facts," how about answering my questions
... concerning YOUR repetitive statements:

 www.nbeener.com/NDB_OSB_Qs.txt

Thanks much,

Neil
Or is it ... Doctor Granet?  

Hmmm.  Only Uncle Otie knows for sure....
Ms.Brainy - 12 Jul 2007 16:40 GMT
> I've found these facts to be true in my case:
>
> - the presence of someone with glasses annoys me

Poor Quasimoda!

> - when someone who wear glasses is near me I always strain more

Poor Quasimoda, you got a problem!

> - when loud noises are all around I strain more

Poor Quasimoda, you got a very serious problem!

> - when there is a heated discussion or an argument I strain more

Poor Quasimoda, you got to stay away from heated arguments!

> - in the few days that I passed discussing with the idiots on
> sci.med.vision my progress stopped and I become sad

Poor Quasimoda, you got to stay away from s.m.v. and stop discussions
with the idiots!

> - when I don't think about my eyes and vision my strain is less

Good, good!  Stop thinking about your eyes and vision, accept
yourself, and you'll see how your strain disappear.  Most myopes have
been there long ago and are relaxed about their condition, it's now
your turn!

> - the strain that causes night blindness is different from the strain
> that cause myopia in the daylight

> - the swing treatments is a blessing

Swing along, girl!

> When you talk with a myopic person of the methods of the normal eye he
> runs away precisely at the moment in which they perceive that wearing
> glasses is the cause of their problems.

They don't perceive it, only you do, Quasimoda.

>They subconsciously understand
> that they cannot do without something that is hurting them and they
> prefer to escape from this trap avoiding to talk about it.

They are not hurt, Quasimoda, only you do (see your remarks above).

> These people on the sci.med.vision are in the trap. They KNOW that
> glasses are hurting them.

They don't know that because they are not hurt, Quasimoda, only you
are (see your remarks above).

>But they are SLAVE of that damned things.

These "things" are "damned" only in your crooked mind, Quasimoda, and
YOU are the slave to this attitude.

> The more you smash their arguments the more they suffer.

You never smashed any of their arguments, Quasimoda, and the only one
who is suffering and crying is YOU.

>The more
> evidence you explain to them, the more they start to go astray and
> talk nonsense.

You never explained anything worthwhile, Quasimoda.  You never
provided any concrete evidence, not even anecdotal one.  You only
pasted ancient and discredited articles, demanded blind faith, and
labled everybody "idiot".

> I am wondering that having arguments with them is of no use. Neither
> them nor us will get any benefit from it.

Finally you got it right.  Bravo, Quasimoda!  So why are you still
here?

> They are poor suffering fellows that are not willing to be helped and
> to heal their wounds.

People like you who consider myopia as a reason for suffering have a
severe mental disorder and need help to heal THEIR wounds.  The rest
of the myopes live in peace and harmony with their myopia and accept
it (and themselves) as whole.  They don't have wounds and they possess
the relaxation you are seeking.  Think about it!

>This happens at times... someone with a wound
> that do not want his wound to be exposed and healed because they fear
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>
> See, Imagine, Remember... it is obvious!

Blah blah blah... See above.

Remember, Quasimoda:  Misery is in the eyes of the beholder!
 
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