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Ms.Brainy - 04 May 2007 07:32 GMT
On May 3, 10:49 pm, "William Stacy, O.D." <wst...@obase.net> wrote:

> By far most cataract patients are looking to rid themselves of the dim
> fog of cataracts.  Any IOL will help that.  The fact remains that the
> best post op vision comes with single vision lenses, prolate for most,
> standard for some.  Multifocal and 'focusing' IOLs are bad news for just
> about everyone except the manufacturers.

What you say so passionately agrees with almost everything I have read
from patients, not from manufacturers or surgeons.  My surgeon already
resents me for not providing him additional income for his recommended
Crystalens.  Tough luck!

But I still don't know what he is planning to give me, and find it
hard to get any information from him.  He is the second cat-doc with
this attitude and I don't know how to deal with it.  Fortunately, his
resident-assistant is more forthcoming, but also pushing for the
crystalens.

William, you have mentioned the prolate IOL more than once before, but
now you are saying that they are not the best for all and for some
standard IOL works better.  How can it be determined in advance what
will be the best for me?  And how are they different from the
standard?

Also, do the prolates cost more?  Are they covered by insurance and/or
medicare?  Should I expect to pay extra for them?  How much?
William Stacy - 04 May 2007 17:36 GMT
>What you say so passionately agrees with almost everything I have read
>from patients, not from manufacturers or surgeons.  My surgeon already
>resents me for not providing him additional income for his recommended
>Crystalens.  Tough luck!
>  

I know the feeling.  I'm still looking for a good local o.m.d. who will
do what I want for my patients who are starting to back up
wanting/needing the procedure.  I try to avoid mentioning money...

>William, you have mentioned the prolate IOL more than once before, but
>now you are saying that they are not the best for all and for some
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>medicare?  Should I expect to pay extra for them?  How much?
>  

Prolate optics reduce spherical aberration, in some cases to near zero.  
But apparently in some eyes they are counter productive.  I'm not sure
how to determine who is, who isn't,  and who it doesn't matter with, but
I was a mild myope and they worked fabulous for me. I'm tying to nail
this down, but I think the large majority of candidates will do best
with prolate optics. Not sure how many $$ more, but I think it's one of
those upgrades Medicare will allow the patient to pay for, and I would
imagine it's something like 500 or 1000 additional per eye.  YMMV.

w.stacy,o.d.
cdavis@directflatscreen.tv - 05 May 2007 00:25 GMT
> >What you say so passionately agrees with almost everything I have read
> >from patients, not from manufacturers or surgeons.  My surgeon already
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> w.stacy,o.d.

Which IOL's are prolate lenses?
William Stacy, O.D. - 05 May 2007 04:50 GMT
> Which IOL's are prolate lenses?

Well, I don't know them all.  Certainly the ones I got, Technis Z9000 by
AMO optics are one, and I know for sure there are others.  You have to ask.

w.stacy, o.d.
William Stacy - 07 May 2007 19:14 GMT
Technis, by amo for one; I think B&L also make one.

>Which IOL's are prolate lenses?
>
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Ms.Brainy - 05 May 2007 04:37 GMT
Another question:  Is IOL spherical strength measured in diopters?

Since there is a disparity between my eyes, and since at this stage I
will have a cat removal and IOL implant only in the bad (right) eye,
and since my vision in the bad eye cannot be corrected to 20/20 due to
some retinal wrinkling or scar or pucker (who knows, nobody tells me
exactly), should I insist on knowing in advance the Rx for the IOL?

I have already decided to go with standard monofocal and intermediate
distance, but my concerns and uncertainties are still many.  Would I
be correct assuming that intermediate Rx is roughly aimed to 20/40
acuity?  And if so, since 20/40 is the best vision I can have anyway
due to my wrinkle/scar/pucker, wouldn't it mean that I actually don't
have a far distance choice and the only possible choice I have (in the
bad eye)is intermediate?  This means (if I am correct in my
assumptions) that my IOL should be of maximum refractive correction
for that eye, leaving the far vision for the left good eye?
William Stacy, O.D. - 05 May 2007 05:02 GMT
> Another question:  Is IOL spherical strength measured in diopters?

yes.

> Since there is a disparity between my eyes, and since at this stage I
> will have a cat removal and IOL implant only in the bad (right) eye,
> and since my vision in the bad eye cannot be corrected to 20/20 due to
> some retinal wrinkling or scar or pucker (who knows, nobody tells me
> exactly), should I insist on knowing in advance the Rx for the IOL?

I don't think that will help.  What you need is some confidence in your
surgeon.  Hard to come by these days.  You need to be bold and
fearlessly ask the hard questions.

> I have already decided to go with standard monofocal and intermediate
> distance, but my concerns and uncertainties are still many.  Would I
> be correct assuming that intermediate Rx is roughly aimed to 20/40
> acuity?

Not really.  If the eye is only correctible to 20/40, then you will be
20/40 at intermediate, and with appropriate spectacle correction, will
be 20/40 at any distance.  Not really bad.  Not perfect, but tolerable.

 And if so, since 20/40 is the best vision I can have anyway
> due to my wrinkle/scar/pucker, wouldn't it mean that I actually don't
> have a far distance choice and the only possible choice I have (in the
> bad eye)is intermediate?

NO.  If 20/40 is your best possible vision, you just need to decide
where you want that 20/40 to be.  I mean where do you want your eyes to
be focussed when you are not wearing any glasses?  If that is at 40
inches, fine.  If it's at optical infinity, fine.  If it's at 12 inches,
fine.  All the other distances can EASILY be corrected for with glasses.

 This means (if I am correct in my
> assumptions) that my IOL should be of maximum refractive correction
> for that eye, leaving the far vision for the left good eye?

This has gotten very complicated.  Based on your last statement, which
really doesn't make a lot of optical sense,  I'd say have them shoot for
best vision at 20 feet or so.  If they hit that, at least you won't have
a big disparity between your eyes and the other distances, as mentioned
above, can easily be corrected for.

w.stacy, o.d.
Ms.Brainy - 05 May 2007 19:21 GMT
> Prolate optics reduce spherical aberration, in some cases to near zero.  

What is spherical aberration?
William Stacy - 07 May 2007 19:17 GMT
It is blur induced by the optics of a spherical lens, or one that uses a
single, fixed curvature, esp. in high power lenses like IOLs.

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Ms.Brainy - 07 May 2007 19:38 GMT
Is this blur occurring only in the peripheral vision?  If so, moving
your head toward the viewed object may solve the problem.  Eyeglasses
wearers are used to it, thus it should be no problem.  Am I correct?
Obviously, I don't know what I am talking agout, but trying to collect
all the info I can prior to having a permanent implant(s) in my
eye(s).

> It is blur induced by the optics of a spherical lens, or one that uses a
> single, fixed curvature, esp. in high power lenses like IOLs.
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William Stacy - 07 May 2007 20:08 GMT
No, it affects central vision more than peripheral, which is where we
are most bothered by blur.  Technically, it is off-center rays that are
actually at fault, but these are rays coming from whatever your eyes are
aimed at, and probably should not be called "peripheral" rays.

w.stacy, o.d.

>Is this blur occurring only in the peripheral vision?  If so, moving
>your head toward the viewed object may solve the problem.  Eyeglasses
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Jane - 05 May 2007 18:20 GMT
Ms. Brainy, I'm a patient who was in a situation similar to yours, and
my experience and research might be helpful to you.  I believe that
the manufacturers of prolate optics (i.e., aspheric IOLs) recommend
these lenses for just about everyone except formerly farsighted people
who have had laser vision correction.  However, it's questionable
whether people with retinal pathology (like you and me) will see
(literally) much benefit from a reduction in spherical aberration, at
least in their affected eye.  I chose to get aspheric IOLs anyway, and
the cost was entirely covered by my Blue Cross.

In my opinion, the Crystalens (or any of the multifocal IOLs) would be
a bad choice for anyone with less than healthy eyes.  There are many
horror stories posted on other forums.

You'll find that most cataract surgeons work with only a few different
lenses, usually from the same manufacturer.  I could find no research
as to which aspheric lens is best.  My best guess is that there's
little difference among those available (although the manufacturers'
hype would suggest otherwise).
 
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