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Neil Brooks Posting under "Odis"
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otisbrown@pa.net - 04 May 2007 00:58 GMT Neil Books has a CONSIDERABLE knowledge of medicine and medical publications. Very few laymen have that kind of access to medical information or knowledge about it. One would suspect Neil Brooks is an assumed name. Further he insists on "hijacking" my name in various ways.
Since Brooks choose to cite Raphaelson's remarks about the "Printer's Son", I will cite the exact statment by Dr. Raphaelson.
The implication I drew from this is that most people want a minus quick-fix and nothing else.
This defines the LIMIT of what is possible for dealing with a person in 5 minutes, when the person expects EXCLUSIVELY sharp vision with a strong minus.
This is why I reached the conclusion that plus-prevention could NEVER be delievered in an office in five minutes, but the person himself would have to make the dermination to use the preventive-plus correctly, clear his vision with the plus (as my nephew did) and keep his distant vision clear through the school years, versus developing stair-case myopia from BOTH the school environment, and the over-prescribed minus.
We are here to think about these scientific issues.
Best,
Otis
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WHY ISN'T THE PREVENTATIVE APPROACH OFFERED?
With this type of scientific understanding of the eye's behavior, you would think that the insightful and motivated optometrist or ophthalmologist could introduce a practical and effective method of solution. Dr. Jacob Raphaelson did exactly that in the following example -- with the following result:
THE PRINTER'S SON "It was the year 1904 that I met a mother at a social lodge meeting. She told me about her son's trouble with his eyes in school. I gave her my card and told her to bring him to my office and I would fit him with a pair of spectacles.
"She said that she had no money at the time and that her husband was a printer working in another city. She did not expect him home for the next six weeks. I told her all this would not matter, that she should bring the boy over and I would fit him with a pair of spectacles. I told her that she could pay for them when her husband returned home.
"She brought the boy in and I examined his eyes. I found that his vision for distance was poor. It was less than 20/40. I made him a pair of plus 1.00 diopter spectacles. She was to pay me when her husband came back home.
"In about six weeks she came back and returned the glasses to me. She stated that her husband was provoked with her for getting the glasses. He had tried the boy's eyes with different prints, far and near, and had found him to have perfect vision with his naked eyes. In fact, she said, the boy could see even better without the glasses than with them.
"I was surprised that the plus lens could produce recovery that quickly. I could hardly believe this story. I persuaded the mother to bring the boy back to let me check to see if he could really see well with his naked eyes. She again brought the boy in and I checked his vision. I found that the father was indeed right. The boy had good eyes, with 20/20 vision and better.
"I was in a dilemma. I did not have the nerve to say anything to the mother. I just let her go. How was I to prove that the boy had poor vision before he received his glasses? And who would believe that vision could be restored by just wearing a pair of plus 1.00 glasses for a few weeks?
"My experience with the printer's son aroused my inborn tendency for exploration. It gave me an incentive to try to do special work on children's eyes and on vision restoration. It also enticed me to investigate myopic (nearsighted) eyes because I was myself nearsighted.
"On the other hand, this experience was a warning to be cautious in doing such work. For selling spectacles to persons who, supposedly, did not need them was almost a crime. And the fitting of glasses without the advice or consent of a medical doctor to unhealthy or diseased eyes, or even to an unhealthy person who might need or be under medical attention, was, and is now, and encroachment on the medical profession.
"To shield myself against possible enmity and involvement, I took the following precautions: First, I quit using the title 'doctor' in any form, in print or verbally. I was to be known as a spectacle fitter and nothing more. Second, I charged a reasonable price for the spectacles I sold but nothing extra for any special work or relief I gave. I did not advertise about this special work. I just did it as a matter of routine whenever or wherever I was given the opportunity.
"Thus in 1904 I became an independent researcher on the relationship of the eye's behavior to spectacles, vision, and health. I have kept it up, and will continue to do this work as long as I continue to have the incentive and capability.
"Who would believe it? Who would believe that by just wearing a pair of plus one (+1.00) glasses for a few weeks, that normal vision to the naked eye could be restored to children whose eyes have a negative focal state? This was true in 1904, and it is also true now, in this decade of 1950." (It continues to be true in this decade of 1990 -- Otis Brown)
SCIENTIFIC VERIFICATION
With such strong recognition that a negative lens has such a profound and adverse effect, you would think that it should be possible to develop scientific verification for this characteristic of the normal eye. You would be correct. The testing and verification is impeccable -- if we restrict our attention to the normal eye's behavior.
odisbrown@pa.net - 04 May 2007 01:49 GMT >Very few >laymen have that kind of access to medical >information or knowledge about it. Actually, I should correct (or commit) myself:
MOST have access to that kind of medical information.
MANY, in fact, actually READ IT
SOME may even LEARN FROM IT.
It is that last group that I "admire" the most, for they are truly a "breed apart" from the likes of me.
I look to them with wide-eyed wonder--the same sort of awe and reverence that I used to reserve for commercial pilots. Ah, if only.
Those who USE their access, AND read, AND learn tend to see THROUGH my endless stream of falsehoods. They recognize when I misquote, torture statistics, cite partial data, lie "by omission," cite false authorities, demonstrate VICIOUS hypocrisy, extrapolate from single cases to larger pop- ulations, and ignore overwhelming sums of data in direct contradiction to my beliefs.
In fact, they tend to speak out in large numbers when I AM errant, mis-informed, dishonest, or simply wrong.
This occurs on a near-constant basis.
In a SCIENTIFIC (NOT medical) case, this is known as a negative feedback loop.
But I pay them no "never-mind."
Enjoy,
Odis
otisbrown@pa.net - 04 May 2007 03:06 GMT Dear Reader,
You will have to decide if you are reading "Neil Brooks" the layman, Neil Brooks as "Odis", or Neil Brooks the doctor.
Best idea. Just try to ignore him.
Pay attention to science and the facts, and not Neil Brooks.
Otis S. Brown
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On May 3, 8:49 pm, "odisbr...@pa.net" <odisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
> On 3 May 2007 16:58:57 -0700, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Odis spammer - 04 May 2007 04:33 GMT On May 3, 10:06 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
> Dear Reader, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Pay attention to science and the facts, and not > Neil Brooks. Thanks for the heads up there Otis, but frankly I'd sooner stick a fork in my "refractive state" than pay attention to your tin foil hat theories.
spammer - 04 May 2007 01:55 GMT Is staircase myopia the same as elevator or escalator myopia? What about a spiral staircase? Do ladders count? How about magic carpets?
What is the refractive state of a magic carpet?
odisbrown@pa.net - 04 May 2007 03:07 GMT Dear Spammer,
Subject: stair-case myopia
Re: Majoriy-opion definitions
>Is staircase myopia the same as elevator or escalator myopia? Although my name IS "Otis," strangely, I know very little of these conveyances of which you speak.
Even more strangely, in this case, that DOES stop me from rendering an opinion.
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>What about a spiral staircase? Do ladders count? How about magic >carpets? A spiral staircase myope would likely be nearsighted AND have something called "excyclotorsion."
I throw around these words AS IF I know what they mean. Don't be fooled by the quick-fix plus.
Okay?
Ladders? I presume you mean Ladder Day Saints. I don't believe that Mitt Romney IS a myope; therefore, we can assume that he aggressively used the PLUS lens.
At the threshold.
Magic carpets? This is related to Refractive Undercorrection Glasses, sold by majority-opinon optometrists as "RUGs."
see: www.finechinamyopia.com
>What is the refractive state of a magic carpet? I believe that would be Madras.
Enjoy,
Odis
otisbrown@pa.net - 04 May 2007 02:33 GMT The implication of the "Printer's Son".
Some parents, recognizing that they must take a more supportive PREVENTIVE approach with their own children -- to keep their distant vision clear through the school years -- institute the preventive method WITH THEIR OWN CHILREN, because of the arrogance an ignorance of the majority-opinion on the subject.
Here is the statement of "Ray" about his son:
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Dear Prevention-minded parents,
I have received this from a parent.
I have changed the names of the people to protect them.
Best,
Otis
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From: Ron
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006
Subject: Mike's vision 20/70 to 20/30
Dear Otis,
I am Ron and my son is Mike. Mike is eight years old now and can read most of the 20/30 line of i-see random Snellen chart. He has been using plus for three months.
In 2004 when he was 6. My wife and I took him to see the optometrist in a university. We were told that Mike's vision was farsighted +0.75D both eyes and the eyes were healthy.
In 2005 he was 7. We went to the same optometrist. We were told that Mike's farsightedness was gone. We worried he would be myopic soon. But nothing we could do at the time. The optometrist said that they suggest some children to use the hard contact lens to slow down the myopia if myopia grows fast. But he said Mike was not myopic yet and did not need at the time. My wife and I also think the hard contact lens is too dangerous for a young boy like Michael. We do not consider. What we could do was just keep an eye on his vision.
At his regular body check early August this year. The doctor told us Mike needed to see an optometrist. My wife and I took him to see an optometrist on the same day. We were told that Mike was R -1.25 D and L -1.00 D nearsighted. That guy said Mike needed a pair of nearsightedness glasses. I told him Mike's refractive state was 0 diopter last year. That guy said ..you know.. he has grown. he has grown taller. his eyes have grown longer. and heredity. so myopia. I thought only the heredity made sense (not any more now).
I think the NBA players are much taller. Are they all myopic? We rejected to let Michael wear glasses the guy wanted to sell. We went to two more different optometrists at different places in the week (because I don't really trust some of them ). One said Michael was R -1.25 D and L -1.50 D. Another said he was -1.50 D both eyes. Sure enough he was nnearsighted. We did not go to the university because it takes months for an appointment. We needed to know earlier.
My wife and I were very sad. We have been doing everything we can to protect his vision since he was a baby, no close reading at home (in school we don't know and can not control), 12 feet away from the TV and only two or three hours a week, no TV game and no computer etc. Unfortunately, he can not stay away from myopia.
In that week. My wife and I searched on the net. We wanted to find some methods to slow down Mike's myopia progress. We found O.K lens then we found plus method on Steve's site and your site. We read as much as possible in a week. Though we read a lot. We could not let Mike try the plus. Because we didn't know too much about this. We worried. So we decided to try the plus lenses by myself first. After a few days using plus lenses. I felt good and my vision improved little. It was no harmful at all. Then we got a pair of +1.50 D lenses for Michael starting. Mike started using plus in the end of August 2006.
Mike's vision improved a little bit in a month. I always check his vision at home with the eye charts on the net. I have read a lot about plus prevention on the net. Too bad Steve doesn't update his website any more for some reason. Some people accused him.
I have read a lot on your site, your forum, the Yabb vision improvement forum, sci.med.vision and i-see etc. I realize the +1.50 D lenses are not strong enough for Michael when he reaches 20/50 or better. So I gave him a pair of +2.50D lenses on 26 September 2006. He uses plus at home and his class room. He now can read most of the 20/30. Sometimes 4 of 6 sometimes 5 of 6. His vision was about 20/60 - 20/70 three months ago. He has improved a lot through three months.
Last week Mike had a vision assessment in the department of health. The optometrist put the -0.50D lenses on Mike's face. Michael could read the smallest line each eye separately with those lenses. The optometrist said Mike was -0.50 D nearsighted both eyes. I asked him if the smallest line was 20/20. He told me that was 20/15. He said Mike didn't need glasses.
Otis, is that kind of over-prescription you always say? Anyway, we are so happy about that Michael is just -0.50D nearsighted (may be) confirmed by a professional optometrist though I know his vision level on the eye chart at home, though I don't trust some of them too much.
Mike improves his vision by using plus. So do I. But my vision is too bad can not be restored. One thing is certain. Plus prevention works. Mike doesn't do any eye exercise like zooming, sunning and palming etc. He doesn't even know it. I have given him some blue berry extract with DHA since October 2006. I don't know if it helps. Who knows?
One more thing is certain. God has been helping us. Thank God.
Otis, you are doing great. You are helping a lot of people. Some people overcome myopia with your help. I have learnt much about plus-prevention on your site. Mike can avoid the stair-case myopia. His vision doesn't need to be sacrificed. I can't tell you how excited I am that he doesn't need the nearsightedness glasses in his life even he is just 20/30 now. You are making things better.
I have seen some people bash you unreasonably. So I just want to write this letter to say thank you and encourage you. It is not easy for me to type an English letter like this. But I have to.
I don't know if Mike will reach 20/20. I believe he will. I will let you know on the day.
Thank you very much again Otis.
Best regards,
Ron
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So Dr. Raphaelson was correct about this issue.
It takes a wise parent to do plus-preventive work "correctly".
And you wonder why YOU got stair-case myopia, and no help with prevention? Wonder no longer.
Otis
www.myopiafree.com
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On May 3, 7:58 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
> Neil Books has a CONSIDERABLE knowledge of > medicine and medical publications. Very few [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > eye. You would be correct. The testing and verification is impeccable > -- if we restrict our attention to the normal eye's behavior. odisbrown@pa.net - 04 May 2007 03:01 GMT > One more thing is certain. God has been helping us. Thank >God. Ergo ... I AM God.
> Otis, you are doing great. You are helping a lot of people. In all modesty, so are lucky rabbits' feet AND rituals of professional athletes.
>Some people overcome myopia with your help. But not my niece, Joy. Maybe I'm replete with feces?
> I have seen some people bash you unreasonably. But have you ALSO seen the LEGIONS of people who "bash" me REASONABLY?
Again, I'm working very hard to break my habit of "lies of omission."
Best,
Odis
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 04 May 2007 04:37 GMT On May 3, 9:33 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
> Here is the statement of "Ray" about his son: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Otis tell us the story about the military "friend" whom you helped with plus lens prevention. you know, the guy who is stationed in Korea now and who had blurry vision in the distance so you prescribed plus lenses (the only therapy you know-- i guess if you're a hammer then everything looks like a nail, right?).
oops-- i'm sorry. I forgot that that guy read your confabulated story about him and then replied back to you on this forum calling you a liar because your therapy didn't help him at all. why is it that you tried to call his story a success story for your theory? how many other success stories that you tell are really misrepresentations (aka lies)? how come your niece Joy followed your plus lens treatment plan yet she turned out to be myopic and has a restriction on her driver's license?
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 04 May 2007 04:28 GMT On May 3, 7:58 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
> SCIENTIFIC VERIFICATION > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > eye. You would be correct. The testing and verification is impeccable > -- if we restrict our attention to the normal eye's behavior. where is the beef Otis? what is the true verification? I mean the data on human subjects. who cares about some stupid story from Raphaelson which reads like an old rerun of Little House on the Praire. I asked you for the data from the study that YOU performed just like you said you did. where is it? quit dodging the issue and answer directly.
perhaps this so called "international myopia prevention association" has some real data. they claim to support research so perhaps someone could present it. the stupid video that you posted a link to depicts a human child so your arguments about chickens, shrews, and monkeys don't apply. where is the data from humans that says myopia is caused by near work and that plus lenses prevent it? how come REAL studies done by REAL scientists arrive at the opposite conclusion?
and exactly how many real people are a member of this "association". is this something that you and your stupid friend Don Rehm dreamed up on your own? do you think you can dupe stupid people into believing you just because somebody put a cartoon video on the internet?
and whatever happened to your good buddy Don's letter to congress recommending that the wretched minus lens be banned-- how did that go? how long did it take before everyone stopped laughing?
and what is the status of the complaint against you for practicing medicine without a license in the state of Pennsylvania? has the subject of your plus lens therapy actually endangering the public ever been raised since you could push barely-compensated exophores over the edge into permanent diplopia? i know you actually HAVE harmed poor unsuspecting saps by pushing plus lenses on them and causing them to get double vision. has anybody sued you yet? its coming.
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