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How soon after giving birth should my vision stabilize?

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Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward - 01 May 2007 19:51 GMT
Hi,

I had my second baby seven weeks ago, and noticed my vision has
worsened since the delivery.  I had something similar with the first
baby, and it got better after a while, but this time it's worse than
the first time.  I was wondering how soon I can expect my vision to be
stable enough so that I can get it checked.

Thanks for your help!
spammer - 02 May 2007 00:36 GMT
Congrats for the new baby, Hope everyone is doing well.
Get your vision checked now so your doc can give you an idea. You
don't need to wait til your vision stabilizes. Going in now will give
the doc a better way to determine why and how your vision gets bad at
child birth.
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 02 May 2007 01:25 GMT
Research indicates that vision stabilizes about two months after
nursing is ended, however your individual experience may be different.
It takes some time for the hormones related to pregnancy and lactation
to return to pre-pregnancy levels.

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Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward - 02 May 2007 17:44 GMT
On May 1, 8:25 pm, Glenn - USAEyes.org
<glenn.hageleSTOPS...@USAEyes.org> wrote:
> Research indicates that vision stabilizes about two months after
> nursing is ended, however your individual experience may be different.
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Thanks for that.  It sounds like it's related to the hormones then,
rather than the greater blood volume in pregnancy, or the pushing at
birth (these are some possible causes I've heard other mothers
speculate about).
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 02 May 2007 17:55 GMT
Fluctuation in visual acuity related to pregnancy and lactation is
primarily due to changes in hormones. The vision fluctuations can
occur early in pregnancy, long before dramatic changes in blood volume
or the physical process of childbirth, and continue while nursing.

Glenn Hagele
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spammer - 02 May 2007 17:58 GMT
On May 2, 12:44 pm, Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward
<penel...@rescueteam.com> wrote:

> Thanks for that.  It sounds like it's related to the hormones then,
> rather than the greater blood volume in pregnancy, or the pushing at
> birth (these are some possible causes I've heard other mothers
> speculate about.

No offense to Glenn here, but relying on an internet diagnosis is not
exactly smart. Go see your doctor.
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 02 May 2007 20:05 GMT
>No offense to Glenn here, but relying on an internet diagnosis is not
>exactly smart. Go see your doctor.

No offense taken, and you are exactly correct.

Glenn Hagele
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Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward - 03 May 2007 16:27 GMT
On May 2, 3:05 pm, Glenn - USAEyes.org
<glenn.hageleSTOPS...@USAEyes.org> wrote:

> >No offense to Glenn here, but relying on an internet diagnosis is not
> >exactly smart. Go see your doctor.
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Sorry, I didn't realise you weren't a doctor.  I was hoping to hear
from a doctor about this phenomenon of vision worsening as a result of
pregnancy.
callimico66@yahoo.com - 03 May 2007 17:00 GMT
I was interested in your question--I had not heard that others
experienced vision worsening due to pregnancy. I noticed it too--my
myopia had been fairly stable, but then worsened after my 2
pregnancies at 31 and 33. I thought it was because I was inside the
house all the time, focusing my attention at close range on the new
baby---and all the fatigue--not sleeping much at night and being
exhausted from childbirth. I think I could have prevented the
permanent worsening by going outside more, getting more exercise,
eating better and getting better rest. I think I was a bit anemic,
too.

C
Mike Tyner - 03 May 2007 17:18 GMT
> Sorry, I didn't realise you weren't a doctor.  I was hoping to hear
> from a doctor about this phenomenon of vision worsening as a result of
> pregnancy.

As a doctor, I had several reactions. My first was "it doesn't happen much."

Second, in your case it did happen once and nothing was found wrong, so it's
reasonable to be conservative if it happens again with the second pregnancy.

From your description, we don't know the exact nature of your change in
vision. Was it a change in the actual refraction?

If so was there gestational diabetes?

Of course there are changes in pregnancy, but in my experience the changes
relate to hydration, tear quality, skin changes that reveal themselves in
poor contact lens fit, contact lens intolerance, red eyes and uncomfortable
wearers. Those problems are common, especially with rigid contacts, and when
everybody wore rigid contacts 40 years ago, the reputation was established
so now "everybody knows" that vision "changes radically" in pregnancy.

NOT.

Refractive change, requiring a change in glasses prescription, just doesn't
happen often as a result of pregnancy. When it does, evidently it's pretty
subtle. We do see radical (and temporary) refractive changes in diabetes. We
see changes in those who are growing more nearsighted, independent of
pregnancy. And there's no question that refractive change _could_ occur from
hormone-mediated changes in serum osmolarity. But it would be unlikely that
any ocular structures were harmed in the process.

JMHO.

-MT, OD
Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward - 13 May 2007 04:48 GMT
> > Sorry, I didn't realise you weren't a doctor.  I was hoping to hear
> > from a doctor about this phenomenon of vision worsening as a result of
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>
> -MT, OD

Interesting.  I did have gestational diabetes in both pregnancies.  I
went to an ophthalmologist at a walk-in clinic today for an eye
checkup, and she wouldn't see me yet, saying I should come back no
earlier than three months after giving birth in order for the vision
to stabilise.  She implied it was common knowledge that eye exams
before three months postpartum are unreliable.
Mike Tyner - 13 May 2007 10:34 GMT
> to stabilise.  She implied it was common knowledge that eye exams
> before three months postpartum are unreliable.

With gestational diabetes, I agree.

-MT
spammer - 03 May 2007 17:49 GMT
On May 3, 11:27 am, Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward
<penel...@rescueteam.com> wrote:

> Sorry, I didn't realise you weren't a doctor.  I was hoping to hear
> from a doctor about this phenomenon of vision worsening as a result of
> pregnancy.

You still don't get it, do you? Even the best doctor on the planet
CANNOT diagnose you over the internet.
Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward - 13 May 2007 04:49 GMT
> On May 3, 11:27 am, Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward
>
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> You still don't get it, do you? Even the best doctor on the planet
> CANNOT diagnose you over the internet.

Thanks.  I should have phrased my question differently, perhaps.  I
merely wanted to know if this was a known phenomenon, I was not
looking for an internet diagnosis.
serebel - 13 May 2007 04:58 GMT
On May 12, 11:49 pm, Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward
<penel...@rescueteam.com> wrote:

> > You still don't get it, do you? Even the best doctor on the planet
> > CANNOT diagnose you over the internet.
>
> Thanks.  I should have phrased my question differently, perhaps.  I
> merely wanted to know if this was a known phenomenon, I was not
> looking for an internet diagnosis.

Perhaps, but I also don't mean to come on heavy here either. I just
don't want to see anyone get hurt by relying on what someone
"diagnoses" on the web without being actually examined.
retinula - 13 May 2007 05:05 GMT
On May 12, 11:49 pm, Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward
<penel...@rescueteam.com> wrote:

> > On May 3, 11:27 am, Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward
>
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> merely wanted to know if this was a known phenomenon, I was not
> looking for an internet diagnosis.

It is certainly a known phenomenon in a minority of pregnancies.
Commonly, tear film and hydration changes occur making contact lens
wear in pregnancy different from contact lens wear otherwise.  This is
totally reversible and in my experience occurs within several weeks of
delivery.

Occasionally (<10%) significant refractive changes occur as a result
of pregnancy.  I generally believe the genesis of these changes to be
underlying gestational diabetes although that's a difficult thing to
prove.  Usually the pregnant mother becomes more myopic, as would
occur in an uncontrolled diabetic.

I think waiting several months after delivery is a little on the
conservative side.  If I examine a pregnant woman and find a
significant refractive change I usually tell them to come back for a
re-refraction 3-4 weeks postpartum.  In my experience what you
commonly find is that the mother has returned to their prior
refractive state.
michael toulch - 02 May 2007 02:09 GMT
On May 1, 2:51 pm, Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward
<penel...@rescueteam.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
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>
> Thanks for your help!

It might be best to get it checked now in order to find out what is
causing this worsening.
 
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