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Medical Forum / General / Vision / December 2006you know what's kind of annoying? when a doctor says you see 20/20 but
you had to concentrate real hard to make out what the blurry letters were, but you guessed right. > you had to concentrate real hard to make out what the blurry letters > were, but you guessed right. Yeah. Chances are you didn't just guess right..... Think of the odds that you actually didn't get any clues from your vision and simply guessed the last two letters. The odds that this would occur by chance are (1 / 26) * (1 / 26) = 0.00147928994 ~ 1/1000. Even though the chart doesn't use all 26 of the letters in the alphabet, most people don't know that, so the odds of getting one letter correctly by chance alone is 1/26. The point is kind of moot if you are happy with your vision, there is no pathology, and the doctor did a good job of refracting you. Even with all of this I can see where you are coming from, could be a little frustrating. > > you had to concentrate real hard to make out what the blurry letters > > were, but you guessed right. > > Yeah. > you had to concentrate real hard to make out what the blurry letters > were, but you guessed right. But if you told your doc "I had to concentrate real hard to make out the blurry letters" your doc would not say you are 20/20,would he? > > you had to concentrate real hard to make out what the blurry letters > > were, but you guessed right. > > But if you told your doc "I had to concentrate real hard to make out > the blurry letters" your doc would not say you are 20/20,would he? no, i told him they were blurry and he didn't seem to care that much... then again, i said it kind of quick ... i didn't expect him to really care... basically, i had had an eye exam about 6 months ago but wanted to get anotehr brand of contacts. He said tehre would be a fitting fee, but then he checked to see how i was seeing in the contacts. 20/20, but the letters were blurry. I guess I should have been more assertive, but I didn't feel like dealing with it. > > > you had to concentrate real hard to make out what the blurry letters > > > were, but you guessed right. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > 20/20, but the letters were blurry. This is exactly what happened to me four years ago. My vision went totally haywire, almost overnight. I went to the GP, and you're not going to believe this but at least try: He asked me to read the eyechart. As soon as I looked at it even the top line was very blurry. So I cheated, I knew that somewhere in my brain I was "seeing" aright so I just rattled off what came intuitively and scored perfectly on the bottom line! The doctor said, "You have better eyesight than me." Moron. I mentioned this to a friend of mine. He said he knew of a Professor Bodis Woolner who had documented the same thing in a number of his patients but I have been unable to find any reference to it. > But if you told your doc "I had to concentrate real hard to make out the blurry letters" your doc would not say you are 20/20,would he? Sure he would. At least, some would. Some docs will refract you and, when you look through the resulting glasses and things are still blurry, say "you have to get used to them" (I did; they're still blurry) or "maybe that eye isn't dominant" (it's not dominant, but I used to focus binoculars through it without any problem), or whatever. It's frustrating. >I guess I should have been more assertive, but I didn't feel like dealing with it. Be prepared to get a lot more assertive. *sigh* LD > > > you had to concentrate real hard to make out what the blurry letters > > > were, but you guessed right. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > then again, i said it kind of quick ... i didn't expect him to really > care... As my first OMD told me, the Snellen test is imperfect. Still, it's the best tool they have. You go down the lines until you can't see the letters. Of course the last one will be blurry. The point is to find the best correction possible. If you aren't correctable to something close to 20/20, then it's time to look further. In my case it was cataract. > no, i told him they were blurry and he didn't seem to care that much... > then again, i said it kind of quick ... i didn't expect him to really [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I guess I should have been more assertive, but I didn't feel like > dealing with it. If you're not assertive, you're doing yourself an injustice. You can always find a new doctor. > > no, i told him they were blurry and he didn't seem to care that much... > > then again, i said it kind of quick ... i didn't expect him to really [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > If you're not assertive, you're doing yourself an injustice. You can > always find a new doctor. well, i don't have eye insurance either, but i'm about to get it soon, but it would have been extra to actually get a new prescriptoin I was also in one of those "mall places" ... i have a hard time taking those places very seriously, wrongly or rightly, so when i get insurance i will look at some non-mall places. > > > no, i told him they were blurry and he didn't seem to care that much... > > > basically, i had had an eye exam about 6 months ago but wanted to get > > > anotehr brand of contacts. He said tehre would be a fitting fee, but > > > then he checked to see how i was seeing in the contacts. snip > but it would have been extra to actually get a new prescriptoin Ah, the answer to your "annoyance" and why the doc didn't "care that much" or do any work to check out your complaint --- you did not care enough to pay him to investigate. Dr Judy > I was also in one of those "mall places" ... i have a hard time taking > those places very seriously, wrongly or rightly, so when i get > insurance i will look at some non-mall places. > > > no, i told him they were blurry and he didn't seem to care that much... > > > basically, i had had an eye exam about 6 months ago but wanted to get > > > anotehr brand of contacts. He said tehre would be a fitting fee, but > > > then he checked to see how i was seeing in the contacts. snip > but it would have been extra to actually get a new prescriptoin Ah, the answer to your "annoyance" and why the doc didn't "care that much" or do any work to check out your complaint --- you did not care enough to pay him to investigate. Dr Judy > > > > no, i told him they were blurry and he didn't seem to care that much... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dr Judy that's a good point and true... I guess I'm more annoyed by the fact that they're calling what I see normal 20/20 because I can make out some blurry letters. Then again, I guess that's the whole point of the eye exam where they go "better, worse, no change." > you had to concentrate real hard to make out what the blurry letters > were, but you guessed right. Everybody's visual systems are different, and there are different degrees of "normal." DrG |
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