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g_mail@spamex.com - 17 Nov 2006 18:42 GMT
Against my better judgement, I plan on buying progressive eyeglasses at
LensCrafters.... They are the only place in the area that has a descent
selection of frames, and I have to buy frames from them in order to get
their promotion of 50% off lenses.

Anyway...

Here's my perscription...

+.25  -.50  x 010  +2.25
+.25  -.50  x 170  +2.25

I work in IT, so I am in front of the computer a good part of the day.

I currenly have Varilux Comfort, and with the exception that I have to
sometimes tilt my head back and look through the bottom of the glassess
to read, I'm fairly happy with them.  The person I spoke to at
Lenscrafters said I should switch to the Panamic... They also said that
Varilux only comes in PC?... Is that correct? I'm not really clear on
the differences n Varilux Lenses... Physio, Ellipse, Liberty... I'd
appreciate it if someone could provide a quick summary...

Also, based on my prescription, maybe someone could comment on other
Lenses that might be better for me...  If there is really something
better, I'd go else where...

Thanks

Tom
William Stacy - 17 Nov 2006 19:32 GMT
It kind of depends on whether you wear your glasses full time, or just
part time for computer/near work.  If you only wear them that way, you
might consider a "variable focus bifocal" like the Hoya TACT or the
Zeiss RD.  Otherwise, the Panamic should work ok.  By PC do you mean
polycarb?  If so, that's just wrong.

w.stacy, o.d.

>Against my better judgement, I plan on buying progressive eyeglasses at
>LensCrafters.... They are the only place in the area that has a descent
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>  
g_mail@spamex.com - 18 Nov 2006 07:16 GMT
> It kind of depends on whether you wear your glasses full time, or just
> part time for computer/near work.  If you only wear them that way, you
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> w.stacy, o.d.

 I wear my glasses all the time...  and Yes by PC I mean Poly Carb...
Would that
 be the proper  material for my script?

 Tom
William Stacy - 18 Nov 2006 17:29 GMT
I'm very biased against poly because of the chromatic aberration but in
your case, chromatic dispersion will not be a big deal (the weaker the
Rx the less problem). But unless you're getting rimless glasses (poly or
trivex needed) or have a big eye safety issue (also poly and trivex are
best here, or glass if weight is no issue), or have a very sensitive
nose (to weight of the specs, in which case trivex wins) I can't see any
reason not to use ordinary cr39.  The lenses are cheaper and the optics
are better.

w.stacy, o.d.

>  I wear my glasses all the time...  and Yes by PC I mean Poly Carb...
>Would that
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>  
Mike Tyner - 17 Nov 2006 20:05 GMT
> Here's my perscription...
>
> +.25  -.50  x 010  +2.25
> +.25  -.50  x 170  +2.25
>
> I work in IT, so I am in front of the computer a good part of the day.

As Dr. Stacy mentioned, it's important whether you want to wear them full
time or just at the computer. That boils down to "do you want a little
better vision when you drive."

It's also important whether this is a new, stronger reading Rx than you had
before, and how far you sit from the computer screen, and what angle you use
to view the screen. It also wouldn't hurt to know your age.

> Also, based on my prescription, maybe someone could comment on other
> Lenses that might be better for me...  If there is really something
> better, I'd go else where...

I could make a good argument for dimestore half-eyes at +175 or +200. For
the price of one pair of progressives, you could scatter a pair of +200 at
the computer, +225 by the armchair, +325 in the tackle box and medicine
cabinet. This will be useful even if you get Rx progressives.

If you only use glasses indoors, your doctor could write the prescription as
+075-050x010 with a +175 add. This design would be slightly blurry at 20
feet, but it would solve most of the problems progressives cause at the
computer. It's the principle used to create special "computer" lenses like
the Zeiss Gradal RD, and it works with just about any generic progressive.

-MT
Robert Martellaro - 17 Nov 2006 21:05 GMT
>Against my better judgement, I plan on buying progressive eyeglasses at
>LensCrafters.... They are the only place in the area that has a descent
>selection of frames, and I have to buy frames from them in order to get
>their promotion of 50% off lenses.

There's an optical in the mall down the road that regularly advertises 50% off
on frames, so I checked out their stock and found a lot of very nice frames
selling for twice what I charge, and I'm not discounter. Maybe it's a real sale,
however it may be wise to check out the independent optometrists and opticians
in your area.

>Anyway...
>
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>sometimes tilt my head back and look through the bottom of the glassess
>to read, I'm fairly happy with them.

Consider computer glasses.

>The person I spoke to at
>Lenscrafters said I should switch to the Panamic... They also said that
>Varilux only comes in PC?... Is that correct?

I can think of seven different materials.

>I'm not really clear on
>the differences n Varilux Lenses... Physio, Ellipse, Liberty... I'd
>appreciate it if someone could provide a quick summary...

The Physio, Panamic, Comfort, and Liberty are similar in design, Ellipse is a
very short corridor design. Liberty is being marketed in Europe as a budget
lens, in the US it's marketed as the best lens for those wearing traditional
line bifocals. Lots of marketing going on here so keep your eyes open.

>Also, based on my prescription,

I would need to know your old Rx, present lens design, position of the monitor,
and so on.

>maybe someone could comment on other
>Lenses that might be better for me...  If there is really something
>better, I'd go else where...

This really needs to be done one on one. Try to find an experienced optician. If
you have general questions, feel free, but I can't tell you what lens will be
best for you as an individual.

>Thanks
>
>Tom

Your welcome.

Robert Martellaro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
Wauwatosa Wi.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field."
 - Niels Bohr
g_mail@spamex.com - 18 Nov 2006 07:34 GMT
> There's an optical in the mall down the road that regularly advertises 50% off
> on frames, so I checked out their stock and found a lot of very nice frames
> selling for twice what I charge, and I'm not discounter. Maybe it's a real sale,
> however it may be wise to check out the independent optometrists and opticians
> in your area.

 Oh, I'm  aware that their regular selling price is greatly inflated
and that the sale
 just brings the price down to reality...  although it is a few
dollars cheaper than
 other retailers I've check.

> I would need to know your old Rx, present lens design, position of the monitor,
> and so on.

 I don't know the specifics of my old script.  At my current exam the
Dr. said my
 script had only slight increase, and the change was in line with the
previous exam
 (2 years ago) and my age (currently 52)

> This really needs to be done one on one. Try to find an experienced optician. If
> you have general questions, feel free, but I can't tell you what lens will be
> best for you as an individual.

 I'm not sure if this is a general question, but What material should
I ask for the Lens to
 be made out of?  I don't understand the pro's and con's of the
different materials and
 I'm afraid I'm going to be sold a high end material I don't need..

 Tom
Robert Martellaro - 22 Nov 2006 15:04 GMT
> I'm not sure if this is a general question, but What material should
>I ask for the Lens to
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>
>  Tom

Depends on the frame, Rx, safety requirements, and your tolerance to the weight
of the glasses on your nose and temple area.

If weight is not an issue then choose cr39. If the frame is rimless, or if you
desire lightweight lenses with significant impact resistance chose Trivex.

The lens brand is not as important as the accuracy of fitting.

I'm out of the office this week. If you have more questions I'll answer next
week.

Robert Martellaro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
Wauwatosa, Wi.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself."
 - Richard Feynman
Mark A - 18 Nov 2006 05:21 GMT
> Against my better judgement, I plan on buying progressive eyeglasses at
> LensCrafters.... They are the only place in the area that has a descent
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>
> Tom

For Varilux lens availability, check out this link:
http://www.varilux.com/Vision+Care+Professionals/Lens+Availability/
g_mail@spamex.com - 18 Nov 2006 07:36 GMT
I just want to thank everyone for taking the time to respond...it is
very helpful...


Thanks again

 Tom

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