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Just What The Doctor Ordered

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ryan.jwtdo@gmail.com - 26 Oct 2006 21:31 GMT
Hello everyone,

As a long-time sufferer of, first End Stage Renal Disease (ESRD) from
the age of 12, and now as a two-time kidney transplant recipient, I
know what a difference the right doctor can make.

This is why I have decided to start an open discussion of what makes a
good doctor, a bad doctor or a good healthcare experience in general.
Please visit http://Just-What-The-Doctor-Ordered.blogspot.com and share
you thoughts and experiences. I have added a couple of entries to help
get you started. Then I ask you to please add your comments or email me
your thoughts. I want this to be a different kind of blog. I am hoping
that it will become openly participatory. If you email me your entries
I will add them to the blog to share them.

My ultimate goal is to create a free site for people to search for
information to help them make the all-too-often trivialized decision of
whom their doctor is going to be.

Thank you all in advance.

Ryan

http://Just-What-The-Doctor-Ordered.blogspot.com
otisbrown@pa.net - 27 Oct 2006 02:39 GMT
Dear Ryan,

Subject:  A doctor who is tolerent and understanding.

Yes, I agree.

I think a doctor should be conversant with the second-opinion
as it can affect you permanently.

He can certainly express is "dislike" of the second-opinion,
(say by Dr. Bates, Dr. Raphaelson, or others), and
offer you information about the second-opinion.

There is no "cost" to this -- just a professional
with an open-mind that is concerned with your
long-term welfare.

He can also say, "I can not support this
second-opinion, but here are the web-sites
that provide some of the history of this problem."

But I can not support "prevention", so you will
have to go to Dr. Second-opinion who will
support you.

That is both ethical and reasonable.

That is what I consider to be a caring,
responsible doctor.

Using foul language on the public that asks honest
questions -- disqualifies the doctor from being
tolerent and understanding.

Best,

Otis

> Hello everyone,
>
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>
> http://Just-What-The-Doctor-Ordered.blogspot.com
Neil Brooks - 28 Oct 2006 18:25 GMT
> Using foul language on the public that asks honest
> questions -- disqualifies the doctor from being
> tolerent and understanding.

As always, Otis, you are unfailingly polite.  I attribute that to the
lobotomy and ongoing use of Thorazine.

As always, though, you are unfailingly ILlogical, wrong, and a
veritable FOUNTAIN of logical fallacies and misinformation.

See: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

The nice old man in the Cadillac ALSO molests children, so ... in
answer to the OP's question: leave attitude and civility out of
it....except when all else is equal.  Look for education, experience,
depth of research, quantity of publications, willingness to listen,
explore new ideas, and ability to understand YOUR situation.

Also, when something sounds too good to be true, run away.  Find a doc
who provides the minimum effective treatment, no more.

Ignore Otis and Ace.

Take care,
Neil
retinula - 29 Oct 2006 01:09 GMT
> I think a doctor should be conversant with the second-opinion
> as it can affect you permanently.

bwa ha ha ha

second opinion = Otis' hair-brained opinion.  noone else EVER uses this
phrase except Otis Engineer.
otisbrown@pa.net - 29 Oct 2006 03:12 GMT
And Retinula truly defines the majority-opinion.

And that is the opinion that can never tolerate a discussion
of objective facts, and the existance of an honest
second opinion as stated by Steve Leung at:

www.chinamyopia.org

As per this poster -- I would look for a doctor who had
the compassion to discuss alternatives with you,
will present the facts, and will encourage you
to do your own research.  After you review these
issues, you can make your choice between
the majority or second opinion based on
what your given doctor believes.

Otis

> > I think a doctor should be conversant with the second-opinion
> > as it can affect you permanently.
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> second opinion = Otis' hair-brained opinion.  noone else EVER uses this
> phrase except Otis Engineer.
BD - 29 Oct 2006 07:01 GMT
> www.chinamyopia.org

*FREAK.*
otisbrown@pa.net - 29 Oct 2006 20:17 GMT
Always the remark of a man who is living in the
past with his "majority opinion".  Yet another
reason for the need for the scientific
second-opinion.

You just proved my point.

Otis

> > www.chinamyopia.org
>
> *FREAK.*
BD - 29 Oct 2006 21:33 GMT
> Always the remark of a man who is living in the
> past with his "majority opinion".  Yet another

True enough. The majority of the participants in this group *would*
agree that you are a FREAK.

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