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Medical Forum / General / Vision / October 2006

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Marcia, I am trying to help you work around your presbyopia! Read and listen!

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Ace - 26 Oct 2006 05:32 GMT
Dan Abel said:

> In another group I subscribe to, there is an annual award for "best
> post".  I'd like to nominate the following post for an smv award:
>
> > Cant you just get some bifocal or progressive glasses
>
> OK so far.

It doesnt seem that Marcia is listening to me and the doctors here. She
is going to be miserable fiddling with the monovision she cant
tolerate. Even my own mother prefers to wear progressive glasses rather
than monovision contacts. She can read without glasses but only at very
close distances, too close for comfort really. Why cant Marcia just
stick with glasses? She will be much happier!

> Are you seriously suggesting that somebody swap contacts every time they
> want to change from seeing near to far and vice versa?

She only has to swap them out when driving. The rest of the time she is
reading.
The other option is she get two pairs of glasses if she doesnt like
bifocals/progressives. A third option is she wear contacts for near and
put her glasses on for distance.

> That word "undercorrects" really bothers me.

I wear glasses that undercorrect me so I am in focus at computer
distance. She can wear contacts that undercorrect her so shes in focus
at reading distance. If she reads at 16 inches, she needs a -2.5
undercorrection then she can have -2.5 glasses made to wear when she
drives back home from work. Problem solved! If Marcia would read this
and listen, she wouldnt be having that problem!

> Not sure what "fully correct" means either, but it doesn't bother me so
> much.

Corrects her to 20/20, or whatever her BCVA is.

> > Presbyopia is not a problem for myopes,
>
> There are millions of people who would be happy to hear that.
> Unfortunately, that won't help them see.

Yes it will. For low and moderate myopes, all they have to do is take
their glasses *off* when reading like I do. High myopes may find it
impratical except for reading tiny print. Therefore they can wear
glasses or contacts that corrects all but -2.5 of their myopia so they
can read at 16 inches all day like Marcia does.

also, Marcia,

Cant you just get some bifocal or progressive glasses or two pairs of
contacts, one that undercorrects both eyes for reading and another pair

to fully correct for distance? Presbyopia is not a problem for myopes,
I have mild presbyopia and im not affected by it.
Just trying to help. Do you like those suggestions?
marcia_jay - 26 Oct 2006 14:12 GMT
Ace,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my posts.  I do truly appreciate
that.

But very early on, maybe a month or so ago, I did respond about the glasses
and the swapping, and also about the suggestion for switching pairs of
contact lenses throughout the day.  Perhaps you missed those answers, but in
short, No, that won't work for me.

Again, thank you for taking the time to write.  

I am not sure where you get the idea that I am "not listening to the doctors
here."  If you feel that way, you are completely within your rights to no
longer take the time to respond, I won't be offended.

Marcia

>Dan Abel said:
>
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>I have mild presbyopia and im not affected by it.
>Just trying to help. Do you like those suggestions?
Ace - 26 Oct 2006 15:36 GMT
You are welcome. There however is one important thing you didnt try.
You have tried monovision to undercorrect one eye and it didnt work for
you. What about undercorrecting BOTH eyes? Before you say "no" let me
explain that you read all day. You need to see clearly from near. Since
you dont want to switch contacts, you can have a thin pair of glasses
made for driving to work and back. On the weekend when your off from
work, wear contacts that correct both eyes fully for distance and bring
readers just in case(youll need them for anything less than 2 to 6 feet
depending how much accomodation you have left and how much blur you
tolerate at near.)

By the way have you tried multifocal contacts? If you have and they
dont work and if monovision doesnt work, your last option is what I
suggest above.
serebel - 27 Oct 2006 02:10 GMT
> Ace,
>
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>
> Marcia

 Marcia, in case you are unaware, Ace is a retard. He is the very last
person any human being should take advice from. He's a well known
internet pest.
Ace - 27 Oct 2006 03:03 GMT
>   Marcia, in case you are unaware, Ace is a retard. He is the very last
> person any human being should take advice from. He's a well known
> internet pest.

Marcia, dont mind rude Serebel. He likes to insult people by calling
them retard.
Simon Dean - 27 Oct 2006 08:34 GMT
>>  Marcia, in case you are unaware, Ace is a retard. He is the very last
>>person any human being should take advice from. He's a well known
>>internet pest.
>
> Marcia, dont mind rude Serebel. He likes to insult people by calling
> them retard.

Wah, wah, spat the dummy.... someone called me a bad name... wah wah
wah... you're rude.... mommy....
CatmanX - 27 Oct 2006 13:06 GMT
Boo Hoo. Nancy is having a cry.

Stop being mean because he has a lot to offer other retards.
Jan - 26 Oct 2006 22:52 GMT
Ace schreef:

> It doesnt seem that Marcia is listening to me

What a wise women.

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)
bldegle2@comcast.net - 27 Oct 2006 13:10 GMT
Ace,

Still practicing medicine, I see.

You haven't gotten any better, did you get your internet degree yet?
LOL.

Pest is the best description I have read to date RE:  ACE.

feathered one
CatmanX - 27 Oct 2006 13:20 GMT
Hey bald eagle,

moron and retard come to mind, pest doesn't quite do it for me.

I like your attitude though.

Cheers.
Ace - 28 Oct 2006 05:23 GMT
> Hey bald eagle,
>
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>
> Cheers.

Is that bald guy your cousin or something? You two have alot in common
:)

Cheers-your nice guy Ace :)
 
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