> Crikey Cletis, you really are dumb.
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> dr grant
Look here f.ck-brain. I asked a question and you can't seem to answer
it.
WHERE IN THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE DOES IT DEFINE "THE NATURAL EYE" OR
"THE FUNDAMENTAL EYE".
Answer the bloody question dick-head.
> The second-opinion is that the fundamental eye is dynamic,
> and that the natural eye will change its refracitve STATE
> when you:
Who's second opinion? I am a second opinion expert. My first opinion is
that you are a dickhead. My second opinion is that my first opinion was
right. NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!
> 1. Place a -3 diopter lens on it (as pure science), and
>
> 2. Will change its refractive STATE (measured objectively
> witph a retinoscope and standard methods).
Gee that is interesting. Now place a -3.00 lens in front of a -3.00
myope and he will tell you he can now see clearly. Where is your
problem with this?
> The issue is respecting the natural eye as a dynamic
> system in the first place.
Thus a dynamic system will emmetropize from a myopic state, so where is
the problem with glasses, as the eye will correct itself according to
you.
> This is a scientific argument to represent the eye
> as dynamic, versus passive, as an eye that
> does not change its refractive state under
> objective testing.
This is where you show yourself to be a total idiot. The eye changes
accommodative state, not refractive state. The refractive state remains
the same as the overall power of the eye does not change, only the
accommodation. Of course that will depend on whether you choose to push
Bates on us now instead of Young.
> But since you do not understand the math associated
> with this concept, and only spin dials on your phoropter,
> you truly miss the point of scientific testing of this nature.
What maths are you discussing here? The only maths involved is adding
the refractive components of the eye to arrive at a final prescription.
> To understand the concept of this type of concept, I would
> suggest that you were taught a box-camera (passive)
> paradigm -- which you believe against objective
> scientific facts.
Au contraire. I am an accredited expert in behavioural optometry. I am
the guy you keep referring to as the second opinion. I restate, my
second opinion is that you are stupid and can't put an arguement
together.
> The concept that they eye is a dynamic system -- and
> tests out that way -- is a dynamic eye paradigm.
You have yet to show any proof of this. Funnily enough, I spend all day
working with dynamic visual systems, but until you can come up with any
coherant arguement, I will contionue to put you down as the fool you
are.
> For a more complete analysis of this type of intellectual
> struggle, I would suggest reading Thomas Kuhn's
> excellent book, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions".
You do not undeerstand the nature of a revolution. First you need to
establish some basis of understanding, then research it and put forward
evidence that is beyond reproach. You have failed to do this.
> But of course you never will.
I don't have to. I am waiting for you to state where the "fundamental
eye" is defined.