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Medical Forum / General / Vision / October 2006Healing your eyes
Is there a way you can heal your eyes or relax them, I suffer from really bad eyes and have tried various ways to relax them but they dont seem to work too good. I have tried: - 1) closing my eyes and placing my palms over them 2) sat in a dark room for a few hours 3) applying heat to them - which didnt work too well I would really like to know how to relax the muscles in my eyes and take vitamens but have read so many different reports about vitamens being a waste of time. Yes, they don't work. Your eyes are the way they are genetically. Blame your parents and the environment. They will not get better, get used to it. Not the nicest thing to hear, but pretty much the truth of it. Vitamins are good to stave off ARM and other diseases, but will not un prescribe you. Sorry. dr grant So there are no ways to heal or relieve tired eyes then? >From your posts I dont know whether your being straight and are normally rude or your having problems and decide to take your anger out on others either way try being nice about it or dont post to any of my questions. > >From your posts I dont know whether your being straight and are > normally rude or your having problems and decide to take your anger out > on others either way try being nice about it or dont post to any of my > questions. Hey, dumbass! I was being nice. You asked a question, I gave you a truthful answer. Instead of impugning me, try asking more legitimate questions, qualify what was a vague enquiry in the first place, or stop posting your spam on the board. dr grant > > >From your posts I dont know whether your being straight and are > > normally rude or your having problems and decide to take your anger out [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > dr grant So asking a question is Spam, so your in the Spam business then Dr Grant and calling people Dumbass proves my point even more that your a arrogant and rude man and if that was you being nice then you should be struck off or are you not really a doctor mr grant. The question is legitimate, this is a vision board and my question relates to vision so its not Spam and its legitimate so dont post on this question because you were rude and I was offended at your reply. Dear Dar, You have to ignore some of the arrogant majority-opinion ODs on this site. So forgive them -- for they know not what they do. Best, Otis ++++++++++++ Hey, dumbass! I was being nice. You asked a question, I gave you a truthful answer. Instead of impugning me, try asking more legitimate questions, qualify what was a vague enquiry in the first place, or stop posting your spam on the board. dr grant > So there are no ways to heal or relieve tired eyes then? > > >From your posts I dont know whether your being straight and are > normally rude or your having problems and decide to take your anger out > on others either way try being nice about it or dont post to any of my > questions. > So there are no ways to heal or relieve tired eyes then? Darren, Optometrists aren't trained on correct use of the eyes to avoid tired eyes and other problems. You'd get better information on this subject on one of these forums: www.iblindness.org/forum/ www.outlook-insight.com/forum1/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/batesmethod/ Dave > > So there are no ways to heal or relieve tired eyes then? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Dave Thanks Dave, that filled me with a lot of confidence (www.iblindness.org) lol What I find to be the problem is that you hear 2 or 3 different stories on what is right and wrong. Dave wrote: > Optometrists aren't trained on correct use of the eyes to avoid tired eyes > and other problems. You'd get better information on this subject on one of > these forums: Darren wrote: > Thanks Dave, that filled me with a lot of confidence > (www.iblindness.org) lol Darren, all you've really told us is that you have "bad" eyes and they get "tired" and need "healing." If your eyes are tired because they don't focus properly, wearing lenses to compensate can usually help. If your eyes are tired because they don't cooperate and work together well, compensating lenses can usually help. Almost nobody gets though life without developing problems in one of these areas. Any good eye doctor can usually pin the problem down in about half an hour. But optometrists are trained to fix what can be fixed. If your back got tired riding a bike 8 hours a day, what would you expect an orthopedic doctor to do? Forgive our skepticism, but questions like yours are often followed by shill ads for nutraceuticals and magnetic bracelets. For "tiredness" that isn't the result of dysfunction or handicap, rest breaks are probably better than vitamins. -MT > Forgive our skepticism, but questions like yours are > often followed by shill ads for nutraceuticals and > magnetic bracelets. Elixer! Will cure a plethora of other ailments too. -Quick > Is there a way you can heal your eyes or relax them, I suffer from > really bad eyes and have tried various ways to relax them but they dont [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > take vitamens but have read so many different reports about vitamens > being a waste of time. If your diet is good, you don't need vitamins. If you read/compute too much, try to cut down or at least interrupt it with 15 or 20 min periods of vigorous or strenuous exercise every 2 hours. w.stacy, o.d. > Is there a way you can heal your eyes or relax them, I suffer from > really bad eyes and have tried various ways to relax them but they dont [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > take vitamens but have read so many different reports about vitamens > being a waste of time. Depends what you mean by "heal" and "relax". If you have an eye disease, then the way to heal depends upon what disease you have. If by relax you mean relieve tired, itching, burning eyes then you need to find out what is the cause (dry eye, allergies, not enough sleep, acne rosacea, blepharitis and so on) and address the cause. Almost no eye conditions are treated by taking vitamins. Do you mean by "heal" that you want to be able to see without glasses? By "relax muscles" do you think that the need for glasses is caused by tense eye muscles? Despite claims you may have read on some websites, the need for glasses is not caused by tense eye muscles. If you want to see without glasses your choices are contact lenses or refractive surgery; there are no exercises or vitamins that will work to remove refractive error. Dr Judy > 2) sat in a dark room for a few hours > 3) applying heat to them - which didnt work too well Just curious...Where did you hear about the above two? > > 2) sat in a dark room for a few hours > > 3) applying heat to them - which didnt work too well > > Just curious...Where did you hear about the above two? Applying heat is thought to relax the muscles, much like applying heat to other skeltal muscles. Supposedly this relaxes the muscles, relieveing the tension that causes the eyballs to elongate axially. In theory, sitting in the dark is a lot like palming in that a completely dark environment will cause the eyes to relax to their natural state because they are not focusing on antyhing. I have seen both of the above in various Natural Vision Therapy programs, though I cannot remember specifically which ones off the top of my head. > > > 2) sat in a dark room for a few hours > > > 3) applying heat to them - which didnt work too well [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > completely dark environment will cause the eyes to relax to their > natural state because they are not focusing on antyhing. Both methods and assumptions underlying are Bates and common in NVI, many of which are based on Bates' writing. However, extra ocular muscle tension is not the cause of axial enlongation so the underlying assumption is wrong. ... and eyes left in a dark environment will accommodate 0.75 to 1.25, becoming more myopic not less. Dr Judy > I have seen both of the above in various Natural Vision Therapy > programs, though I cannot remember specifically which ones off the top > of my head. Thank you for your replies. My eyes feel tired and I have pain in the surrounding area also, sometimes when I get something in my eye and blink quite rapidly I have a dull pain above the eye and just past the temples on both sides. Depending on what eye doctor you see they tell you to use heat packs or ice packs to help relieve the symptoms of eye pain, I had a photograph taken of the inside of my eye and everything was perfect apart from me having problems with floaters which arent too bad really. I was right in the first place. Siiting in a dark room is hardly going to alleviate pain and pushing your palms into your eyes will increase pain, not remove it. Photos of the back of the eye will not find pain as there are no pain receptors in the retina. To this point, you haven't said what your problem is or what you want. You are talking about stupid Bates crap that has no validity for pain, myopia reduction or anything. You talk about periocular pain, but is tha tthe problem? If you stop whinging for a second and stipulate your actual problem and what you expect people here to do for you, then state it in nice clear language. dr grant Im not wingeing you wannabe doctor, I am asking a question of what can be done to help and if you cannot answer this "I would really like to know how to relax the muscles in my eyes" which is what I asked and hoped to get an answer for but instead got doctor giggles and "erm what do you mean, im not really a doctor but need more info so I can check the internet for an answer so I look like a doctor". If you have nothing to say but rude comments then post elsewhere, your comments are not welcome. > Thank you for your replies. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > taken of the inside of my eye and everything was perfect apart from me > having problems with floaters which arent too bad really. > Thank you for your replies. > > My eyes feel tired and I have pain in the surrounding area also, > sometimes when I get something in my eye and blink quite rapidly I have > a dull pain above the eye and just past the temples on both sides. It is normal to have discomfort in and around the eye if you get a foreign body in the eye > Depending on what eye doctor you see they tell you to use heat packs or > ice packs to help relieve the symptoms of eye pain, Those treatments suggest the doctors thought your problems were either blepharitis or allergy or both. Did they also recommend lid scrubs or any eye drops? Did you try the warm compresses, lid scrubs and drops? Did they help? See this link for blepharitis info: http://www.nei.nih.gov/health/blepharitis/index.asp Dr Judy I had a photograph > taken of the inside of my eye and everything was perfect apart from me > having problems with floaters which arent too bad really. |
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