July of 2003 I had surgery on my right eye at the
Wilmer Eye Institute at John Hopkins to correct a
macular pucker. This entailed a vitreectemy. Post
surgery I had a fairly large black spot below and to
the left of my focal point which has since become
relatively unobjectionable. I was also informed that
I could expect a cataract to form in that eye, which
occurred within six months or so to a point where I
had surgery to correct that here in Grand Rapids
Mich in January of last year. Prior to the puck
problems I suspect my right eye required about 1
diopter more of correction thatn the left eye, and
part of the objective of the cataract surgery was
to end up with an eye
glass prescription that would be one diopter weaker
than the left eye. Instead, I ended up with needing
a prescription in the right eye that is one diopter
stronger than in the left eye, i.e., two or more
diopters off from what the doctor was aiming for.
There is a consdierable sense
of disparity between the two eyes and when I look
through them one at a time the images in my right
eye, the eye that had the surgery, appear to be
about 20% larger than those in the left eye, at
least when looking at objects within about twenty
feet or so. Its also in a different location,
to the left and above the image in the left eye.
This is even more extreme when I take
my glasses off, although I can't be certain because
my vision is so poor in the right eye that I can't
see very well without my glasses. I remeber how
depressed I was when I couldn't even read the
single big E on the eye chart. My latest eye
glass prescription was:
spherical cylindrical axis
O.D. -4.75 -3.50 175
O.S. -2.50 -3.00 178
I can't remember for sure if this disparity existed
after the pucker surgery and before the cataract surgery,
but I believe it was the
result of the G.R. Dr's assistant having trouble with
the readings when measuring the distance to the back
of the eye. I remember she was getting disparate
readings and had to call another assistant in to
see if she could get the readings to stabilize.
In hindsight, I believe my G. R. Doctor should have
been doing those measurements himself.
The problem is, no one here in Grand Rapids is familiar
with this sort of problem, there really isn't any eye
test for image size disparity. I am currently wearing
a pair of glasses of my own design in which I have the
right lense out about 1/4 of an inch further than the
left lense to try to pick up some demagnification effect.
But the image size in the right eye is still significantly
larger than the left eye, and still very distracting,
expecially when inside most buildings. The disparity
is less apparent at long distances.
There is a local doctor here who is supposed to be quite
knowledgeable about these things, and even the folks
at John Hopkins all thought if there were a size disparity
it should be that the right eye image should be smaller
not larger. The local doctor has wondered if this
disparity might be related more to the macular pucker
surgery than the measurement errors associated with
the catract surgery resulting in an eyeglass prescription
one or more diopters stronger rather than weaker. I
suspect this is related to the measurement error myself.
In any event, I'm wondering if anyone has some insight
into this matter. I've read several of the older
posts on diopter disparities. My right eye doesn't
really test all that bad, 20/30 I think, its just that
it seems to be at war with my left eye due at least in
part the image size disparity, and its somewhat surprising
to me that eye tests simply don't pick up on this sort of
problem. But perhaps just as troubling is the fact that
the image seems to be located to the left and above the
image in the left eye.
Phil Roberts, Jr.
Dr Judy - 15 Oct 2006 19:18 GMT
> July of 2003 I had surgery on my right eye at the
> Wilmer Eye Institute at John Hopkins to correct a
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Seeing one image displaced from the other suggests an eye muscle
problem or glasses that do not have their centres in the correct place.
Did you have any eye turn or lazy eye problems before surgery?
Image size difference is a separate problem. The measurement may not
have been wrong, but the macular surgery may have madethe formula used
in calculation less valid. Don't assume the doctor could have done a
better job of measuring; often the assistants have much more experience
with and are better at using those instruments.
Anyway, you have some anisekonia. There may be an optometry school
that still has an instrument that can measure this and design lenses to
correct it. Your method of moving one lens further away can work. Be
warned that glasses designed to correct unequal image sizes often look
funny.
Anisekonia is not easy to measure, nor is it common so routine tests do
not find it. Many times the problem is created by the glasses and is
not an actual problem of the eye, although in your case it may be
related to the macular surgery. One solution is to use a contact lens
for the difference between the eyes and glasses with your astigmatism
and progressive lens on top. In your case, using a -2.25 lens on the
right eye and then changing the right lens of the glasses by the same
amount might help.
Dr Judy
David Robins, MD - 15 Oct 2006 23:21 GMT
The size disparity has to be due to the macular pucker, spreading the light
image over more cones than the left eye due to the puckering.
I don't see how it could be the glasses - the more minus lens MINIFIES the
image right eye, so it should look smaller, if it were the anisekonia. In
fact, one trick to use aniseikonia to equalize image size is to use a plus
contact lens on that eye, letting you use a much more minus spectacle lens
to then minimize the image size more. That is a trick I learned when I
trained with David Guyton at Wilmer long ago. His main interest is in
optics.
If the image location disparity were strabismus, misalignment of the eyes,
the entire image will be displaced relative to the other eye, and holding
prisms over the eye would let the images align.
However, if the image being displaced is the pucker, then if the center of
the image only is displaced. That would mean the periphery still lines up
with the other eye in that case. Prisms will not realign the images, since
the intact periphery will want to line up with the other eye, but the
macular images won't. I've seen cases referred to me where prisms SEEMED to
work in the office, nad then did not work once ordered, and they had several
go-arounds with prisms, and the persons ordering them couldn't figure out
why they would not work.
There is no way to move just the macular image. One treatment is to blur the
eye enough so the macular image is not distracting, but not so blurry that
the less-sharp periphery is made much worse. In those cases, if someone has
a mild cataract, this blurs the image also, and leaving it alone is
sometimes best, at least until the cataract gets to be a lot worse. I've
seen a number of these where someone operated for the cataract, sharpened up
the image, and thus making the double more obvious. Re-blurring them with
Bangerter foils (a calibrated blurring plastic film on the back of the
glasses) helped. This was published in one of the ophthalmology journals a
number of years back. In these cases, they got surgery to sharpen, and then
foils to blur them back again, kind of an academic exercise, eh?
How much to blur is a trial and error process. There is a "bar" of all the
foils to try in the office. Then one orders what seem appropriate - if it
works, good, otherwise one blurs more if the double is still there, or blurs
less of the blur bothers too much.
An yes, Dr. Judy is right about one comment - most surgeons would not know
how to do their own A-scans - I certainly don't. It is the technician who
has the daily experience. A doctor who does it once in a while is also bound
to do it badly compared to the experienced technician.
David Robins, MD
Board certified Ophthalmologist
Pediatric ophthalmology and adult strabismus subspecialty
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Jane - 16 Oct 2006 06:25 GMT
I also had vitrectomy surgery with epiretinal peel (right eye) about 9
months ago, and I noticed that the image from my right eye was slightly
larger than the image from my left eye post vitrectomy. There does not
seem to be a difference in terms of object location. The size
disparity has persisted post-cataract surgery (right eye) and clear
lens replacement (left eye). (Both eyes are now plano.) Fortunately,
in my case the size disparity doesn't seem to cause any problems, and
I'm only aware of it if I close one eye and then the other. My retinal
surgeon said that the disparity would diminish with healing, but I
haven't noticed this.