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George - 06 Sep 2006 16:52 GMT
Anyone have this?  Please describe symptoms.

I had IOL replacement in left eye 3 years ago and now am noticing
gradual general cloudiness over entire field of vision in that eye. I
also have a large white floater which they say is due to viteous
detachment.

If you have had treatment for secondary cataract please tell me how it
went.

Thanks,

George
Robert Martellaro - 06 Sep 2006 19:52 GMT
>Anyone have this?  Please describe symptoms.
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>George

George,

It's very important that your doctor is aware of your symptoms. Call them now if
you have not already done so.

Here's more info regarding Posterior Capsular Opacification.

http://www.webmd.com/hw/vision/hw36757.asp

Robert Martellaro
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Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
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"If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
-  Anatole France
George - 06 Sep 2006 21:47 GMT
Hi Robert,

Thanks for the link. They explain it pretty well except for the part about how well
it works, to which they devote only one sentence. They do say one thing interesting,
that the type of IOL used may reduce this problem. Mine was obviously the wrong
brand. Anyway, I'm going to the Eye Institute in Milwaukee Friday morning to let the
guy who did original surgery see  the eye and get his opinion.

Would still like to hear from anyone who had the Nd:YAG posterior capsulotomy to
correct this problem. How well has your vision improved?

George

> George,
>
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> "If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
> -  Anatole France
Robert Martellaro - 06 Sep 2006 22:03 GMT
>Hi Robert,
>
>Thanks for the link. They explain it pretty well except for the part about how well
>it works, to which they devote only one sentence.

It works very well.

>They do say one thing interesting,
>that the type of IOL used may reduce this problem. Mine was obviously the wrong
>brand. Anyway, I'm going to the Eye Institute in Milwaukee

I'm two miles away at 92nd (Swan Blvd) and Center in Wauwatosa. Call me if you
have additional questions.

Regards,

Robert Martellaro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
-  Anatole France
drfrank21@gmail.com - 06 Sep 2006 22:08 GMT
> Hi Robert,
>
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>
> George

Yags works very well- the vast majority of my patients
are very happy with their vision after their yags.

frank
George - 07 Sep 2006 14:55 GMT
Hi Dr. Frank,

Is there a chance that IOL can be damaged by YAG procedure? Are there alternatives to this
procedure?

Also wondering what causes this problem. Does regular steam room or sauna visits
accellerate problem? I take both regularly. I also exercise and play trumpet putting
pressure on the eye.

Is it best to have the same surgeon do the YAG procedure or should a speciasit in this
area be consulted? (I learned the hard way with a root canal.. use a specialist!).

Thanks

George

> Yags works very well- the vast majority of my patients
> are very happy with their vision after their yags.
>
> frank
Roy Starrin - 07 Sep 2006 13:45 GMT
>Would still like to hear from anyone who had the Nd:YAG posterior capsulotomy to
>correct this problem. How well has your vision improved?

I had a secondary in one eye which began to develop almost immediately
after the original cataract surgery.  I was told that it happens
occasionally this way, or over a few years, or sometimes not at all.
Because an adjunct to my cataract surgery caused other problems, my
secondary was caught by a retinal specialist, who said go back and
have him fix it, it's simple.
I did and it was.  The YAG is quick, and recovery time measured in
hours.
I could barely tell that I was having a problem, so I can only say
that it was hard for me to to tell how it helped.  However, vision in
that eye is better than the other.  I see the doctor now following the
eyes next week for a 9 month review since the original cataract
surgery, (6 months since the YAG, and 3 months since the Supralase to
correct the astigmatism induced at the time of the first surgery).
I'm going to ask him to have a good look at the other eye so see if a
secondary is developing there.  I would not hesitate to have a YAG
done if that is the case:
http://www.avclinic.com/yag_capsulotomy.htm
David Robins, MD - 08 Sep 2006 05:30 GMT
On 9/6/06 1:47 PM, in article 44FF33DF.F121D04F@execpc.com, "George"
<steber@execpc.com> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
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> wrong
> brand.

Obviously???

Square posterior-edge implants REDUCE but do not eliminate posterior capsule
opacification. However, square-edges tend to INCREASE the issue of
dysphotopsias, which are irritating lights and reflections in the lens that
you generally see at the periphery. There seem to be less dysphotopsias with
rounder-edged lenses, but the opacification rate MAY be higher (at least in
published studies, but not in my own experience).

Also, the younger you are, the higher the rate of opacification, because the
younger, healthier remaining lens cells grow more easily under the implant.

In average age cat pts, I tell them the usual rish is about 1 out of 6 cases
in the firt 2 years or so. Very elderly may reduce to perhaps 1 in 8-10, and
young (under age 45) may be 1 in 3-4. Teenagers virtually always opacify
later.

There is no "best" IOL.


David Robins, MD
Board certified Ophthalmologist
Pediatric ophthalmology and adult strabismus subspecialty

  Anyway, I'm going to the Eye Institute in Milwaukee Friday morning to
> let the
> guy who did original surgery see  the eye and get his opinion.
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>> "If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
>> -  Anatole France
William Stacy - 08 Sep 2006 17:23 GMT
>There is no "best" IOL.
>  

Probably true, but what's your "favorite" IOL at this time and what is
your opinion of multifocal and focusing IOLs?

w.stacy, o.d.
David Robins, MD - 09 Sep 2006 06:28 GMT
As you know, I'm no cataract cowboy. I fit cataracts in when I have time and
not doing strab surgery.

Kaiser has been cautious about movinginto the mutlifocal IOL arena, since it
it not mature and still in a state of considerable flux. It is not known
what the "best" technology is, and we can't role it out to all our centers
when it still has considerable problems and lack of a consensus on which
technology is best. We often then as an extra-cost option in some areas, in
the same manner as refractive surgery.

We are still primarily use monofocal lenses. We are primarily AMO SI40 and
Clariflex; some users prefer the acrylic AMO AR40e or the Alcon Acrysof-
each argues over why their's is the best.

I've been happy with the SI40 - the rounded edge may have less dysphotosias
that the Clariflex, and I haven't found that the SI40 leads to posterior
capsule opacification to a significant degree. However, I believe the SI40
lens is going away, to be replaced by the Clariflex only.

On 9/8/06 9:23 AM, in article PNgMg.7701$tU.1694@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com,

>> There is no "best" IOL.
>>  
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> w.stacy, o.d.
William Stacy - 09 Sep 2006 18:01 GMT
Thanks.  Does Kaiser allow you to use prolate optics IOLs?  That's what
I have and of course cannot compare it myself with oblate IOLs, but I
certainly am thrilled with the crispness of vision.

w.stacy, o.d.

>As you know, I'm no cataract cowboy. I fit cataracts in when I have time and
>not doing strab surgery.
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>
>  
George - 11 Sep 2006 14:29 GMT
Hello,

Just to followup the original thread, I'll mention that during my visit to
cataract surgeon he found what he termed "membrane" growth in the eye with cloudy
vision. He said he could take care of it with the laser. I asked about potenetial
problems and he mentioned all of them noted in the webMD site, but said he never
heard of anyone having detached retina from procedure. I asked about "nicking"
the IOL with laser and he said that it sometimes happens and he has done it a few
times but that it is hardly noticeable.

Anyway, to shorten the story, I had the procedure done in one of his offices near
by.  It took only about 5 minutes.  Strange feeling having that laser "zap" into
your eye and hear the audio echoes.  Took about 12 zaps to do the job. Results
were immediate and good. Contrast was restored to the eye and vision is back to
where it used to be. Had to wait 1/2 hour for eye pressure check to see if eye
regained normalcy... it did. Stangely they did not repeat the refraction test.
Anyhow, I'm pleased with results.

George
 
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